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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     02-Oct-99 00:28:15
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:13
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 GA Takes Down System

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 20:19:23, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" 
<jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com> wrote:

> Oh.  I thought I saw that posted under another name.
>  

Yeah. I reported the same thing...
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doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     02-Oct-99 00:28:14
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:13
Subj: Re: 100% CPU during Communicator 4.61 download

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 18:20:53, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" 
<jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com> wrote:

> 
> Doug Bissett wrote:
> 
> > I find it very difficult to believe that you haven't tested this thing
> > under the conditions that most users use it under. How the H**L do you
> > expect to produce a working program, if you don't test it properly????
> 
> All right... I'll say this ONE more time.  I do not TEST the
> product.  And the program works, doesn't it?

Well, NO, it doesn't. Downloads quit part way through, sometimes, and 
downloads tend to drive the CPU to 100%, and cut the download speed 
quite drasticaly (among a few other problems, which are probably 
unrelated to the current discussion).
 
> > Surely, you can get, at least ONE, machine connected via a modem, or
> > has IBM's lack of OS/2 support already started to cut into the bottom
> > line?
> 
> We did that, to try to track down the aborted-download
> problem.  But I'm not going to personally requisition a
> land-line connection just to track down a problem being
> reported on a newsgroup that isn't even my job to recreate.
> 
> Jeffrey S. Kobal
> IBM Corporation
> Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team
> 

Sorry, I was under the impression that you, and your team, were 
responsible to make Netscape Communicator 4.61 work properly under the
OS/2 operating system. Since it seems to be (at least) very difficult,
if not impossible,  to report problems through the , almost 
non-existant, official channels, it seems to me that somebody should 
be paying some attention to the problems reported in this (and other) 
newsgroup(s). 

And, YES, it IS YOUR job. YOU work for IBM, and there are UNHAPPY 
customers out here. Believe it, or not, YOU have a responsibility to 
IBM to make sure that their customers are happy, no matter what 
department, or what job you have. I know that IBM tends to forget that
(all too often), but EVERY employee, of EVERY company has a 
responsibility to make sure that all of their customers are happy.

Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate that you, and your team have done 
a pretty good job of porting a marginal (at best) piece of software to
the OS/2 platform. Now, if we can just get a few of the final, 
serious, nits out of the way, everybody will be happy.

Just my C$.03 ($.02 US)...
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From: nineveh@wwa.com                                   02-Oct-99 00:48:05
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:13
Subj: FP12 and OS2ASPI.DMD

From: nineveh@wwa.com

FIXPAK 12 and OS2ASPI.DMD don't like each other. After installing FP12, I got
a trap
at boot up, something to do with drive A:. I rebooted, pressing ALT+F2 to see
which
device driver was the culprit, and discovered it was OS2ASPI.DMD. I commented
this
line out from CONFIG.SYS and all booted well. But without OS2ASPI.DMD I cannot
use RSJ CD Writer for my CDR drive. So I backed out to FIXPAK11 (I 'd like to
see
windoze do *that*!)

Anyone else encounter this? And if so, is there a fix?


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From: news@fenrir.demon.co.uk                           02-Oct-99 03:24:26
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:14
Subj: Re: 100% CPU during Communicator 4.61 download

From: "Brian Morrison" <news@fenrir.demon.co.uk>

On Fri, 01 Oct 1999 13:28:48 -0400, Michael Kaply wrote:

>I am trying to get the problem solved that you can't report bugs through
>service without being a paying customer.
>
>That is the only problem I am working.

Say Mike, do you think your bosses would notice if we borrowed a few
cheek cells to start a cloning attempt? If we could do this enough,
could we make things more OS/2 friendly in the whole of IBM?

Seriously though, I think we're all very pleased that you have made
such efforts on 4.61.


-- 
Brian Morrison                                       news@fenrir.demon.co.uk
               to reply, change address from 'news' to 'bdm'
 ...Grim faced, cold as fishwife's fingers, he snatched from the wall
 the sickle-sharp boar tusks he used for defacing Readers' Digest....


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From: wwilly@one.net                                    02-Oct-99 04:04:21
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:14
Subj: Re: 100% CPU during Communicator 4.61 download

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

        <<<snip of what everybody said>>>

Jeff, you work on this product.  By "this product" I
mean the browser.  Not specifically 4.04.  Not
specifically 4.61.  Communicator.  No release number.
The browser is "the product."  You work on it.

Right?

You write code for this product.

Right?

Please take the problem reports we are giving here &
let them inform your work on this product.  Whatever
release of this product you happen to be working on.
Track the problem down in what you ARE working on.  I
don't care if the code for 4.61 is frozen and you
can't work on it.  That is not what I ever asked for.
I want you to look for the problem in the code of
this product that you ARE working on.

And when I say "you," I mean you, Jeff, if that's
what you personally are working on.  Or tell whoever
DOES work on that part of the code.  Take "you" in
the plural sense if necessary.

I thought you would understand that.  I didn't
realize I needed to spell it out.  I'm not looking
for support.  I'm looking for the problem to be
corrected IN THE -->NEXT<-- RELEASE.  If it's
corrected in a Fix Pack before then, so much the
better.  But I'm not expecting that.  I'm expecting
it to be corrected in the next full release.  That is
actually less than my own customers expect of me.
(Of course they're paying my employer a lot of money
for that privilege.  Which is why I'm lowering my
expectations in this situation.)

WW
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From: wwilly@one.net                                    02-Oct-99 04:24:07
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:14
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 GA Takes Down System

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <37F5174A.E177CDF9@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>,
  "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com> wrote:
> Jim Stuyck wrote:
        <<<snip>>>
> > Close?  Horseshoes, hand grenades and love.
THAT'S
> > when "close" counts.
>
> Don't forget nuclear bombardment and software
development.

Add medical science & military intelligence & we'll
have the complete list of exact sciences.

Oops.  Almost forgot.  Computer science.

WW
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           02-Oct-99 04:36:01
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:14
Subj: Re: FP12 and OS2ASPI.DMD

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 00:48:10, nineveh@wwa.com wrote:

> FIXPAK 12 and OS2ASPI.DMD don't like each other. After installing FP12, I
got a trap
> at boot up, something to do with drive A:. I rebooted, pressing ALT+F2 to
see which
> device driver was the culprit, and discovered it was OS2ASPI.DMD. I
commented this
> line out from CONFIG.SYS and all booted well. But without OS2ASPI.DMD I
cannot
> use RSJ CD Writer for my CDR drive. So I backed out to FIXPAK11 (I 'd like
to see
> windoze do *that*!)
> 
> Anyone else encounter this? And if so, is there a fix?
> 

I'm running Warp 4 FP 12 with Device FP 1 and I do not see any 
problems. It boots without problems.

The dates and sizes of the driver files are.

 7-12-99   3:23p     11224           0  OS2ASPI.DMD
 7-12-99   3:23p     11604           0  OS2SCSI.DMD

The SCSI card is a Tekram DC-390-U and the driver is

10-23-98   1:27p     26002           0  TMSCSIW.ADD

Did you allow FP 12 to over-write something it shouldn't?

I just burnt a CD-ROM using CDRECORD to make sure
it all worked. I have a Matshita CW-7502 CR-R unit.

Lorne Sunley

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From: wwilly@one.net                                    02-Oct-99 04:40:07
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:14
Subj: Re: FP12 and OS2ASPI.DMD

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article
<eDcJ3.394$2Z1.4981@ord-read.news.verio.net>,
  nineveh@wwa.com wrote:
> FIXPAK 12 and OS2ASPI.DMD don't like each other.
After installing FP12, I got a trap
> at boot up, something to do with drive A:.
        <<<snip>>>

I do not have that device driver in my CONFIG.SYS.
However, it appears as changed in 5 base OS/2 Fix
Packs in my OS2\INSTALL\SERVICE.LOG, most recently as
part of FP7.  But that is not the most recent
maintenance of the driver.  It was also maintained in
Device Driver Fix Pack 1.  Draw your own conclusions.

My system now has this:

Directory of F:\OS2\BOOT

 7-12-99  3:23p       11,224      0 a---  OS2ASPI.DMD

WW
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From: weismer@erols.com                                 02-Oct-99 10:49:03
  To: lifedata@xxvol.com                                02-Oct-99 14:10:00
Subj: Re: Warpcenter properties lost

To: lifedata@xxvol.com
From: Murray Weismer <weismer@erols.com>

Of course, he could easily restore his warp center if he is doing
regular hard drive backups with something like DreckBak, or other backup
solutions.
When my warpcenter got hosed a few weeks ago, I had it back again in
under 15 minutes.

> >All my properties on my warpcenter are lost!. Which mean: all the icons on
the
> >warpcenter are gone and there is even no access to the desktop with the
os/2
> >warp button!
> 
> >Can anybody help me?
> 
> As far as I know, you're pretty much sunk for the present.  I've never heard 
of
> a way to reclain a corrupted Warp Center files.  I think they are over
written
> with a default set.
> 
> But for the future ad this to your OS2.KEY file in the \OS2\archives\
directory:
> 
> KEYFILE:X:\os2\dll\dock*.cfg
> KEYFILE:X:\os2\dll\SCENTER.CFG
> 
> Where X is your OS2 drive.
> 
> With this you can get back your Warp Center by doing an archive restore.

The DreckBak approach is quicker, and you won't be forced into old
config.sys or OS2.ini's, as the archive restore will do.


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From: stinky@ameritech.net                              02-Oct-99 18:15:28
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 21:37:18
Subj: TP760 ELD, E16881$, and Trap 000D

From: stinky@ameritech.net

Ever since I installed FP11, I have been getting Trap 000D errors.

Here's what I get

Exception in device driver: ES16881$
TRAP 000d       ERRCD=0084  ERACC=****  ERLIM=********
EAX=00000084 EBX=Obc70000  ECX=00000093  EDX=00000000
ESI=9bd6001e  EDI=00000275  EBP=0000Reaa  flg=00213246
CS:EIP=1250:000030f4  CSACC=00Ob  CSLIM=00005448
SS:ESP=0030:00004EA6  SSACC=1097  SSLIM=00003fff
DS=1248  DSACC=0093  DSLIM=00002b62  CR0=8001001b
ES=1248  ESACC=0093  ESLIM=00002b62  CR2=ffecb028
FS=0000  FSACC=****  FSLIM=********
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********

The system detected an internal processing error at
location ##0168:fff492de - 000e:c2de
60000, 9084

05860570
Internal revision 9.035, 99/04/01

FYI, it's a Model 760 ELD-U3F, with 72 MB of memory, 810 M hard disk

Thanks,

John

jdserra at ameritech dot net

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From: weismer@erols.com                                 02-Oct-99 11:06:01
  To: uxh@po.cwru.edu                                   02-Oct-99 21:37:18
Subj: Re: SYS3175  when creating utility diskettes

To: Ulrich Hopfer <uxh@po.cwru.edu>
From: Murray Weismer <weismer@erols.com>

Known bug. The drivers have become too large and you ran out of disk
space. on the floppy. You can temporarily replace some files on the HD
with older smaller versions to get the disks created, then delete
drivers that are not needed (reflected in config.sys) and copy the newer
ones to the boot disks, and then clean up the Hard drive.
A lot of work.

Ulrich Hopfer wrote:
> 
> I have Warp4 FP11.  I suddenly get a Sys3175 error when I want to
> create utility diskettes (bootdisk.exe). The error occurs towards the
> end of the second diskette. It used to work fine.
> It is unclear whether it is related to FP11.
> Does anyone have a similar experience and does anyone understand the
> register dump printed below?
> 
> 
> > 09-27-1999  02:51:12  SYS3175  PID 0018  TID 0002  Slot 004b
> > D:\OS2\INSTALL\BOOTDISK.EXE
> > c0000005
> > 000131bf
> > P1=00000001  P2=00000000  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
> > EAX=00000000  EBX=00000015  ECX=00000000  EDX=ffffffff
> > ESI=00021ad5  EDI=00022ce2
> > DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
> > ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
> > FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
> > GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
> > CS:EIP=005b:000131bf  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
> > SS:ESP=0053:00963f8c  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
> > EBP=00963fe4  FLG=00012246
> >
> > BOOTDISK.EXE 0001:000031bf
> >
> >
> --
> Ulrich Hopfer
> Department of Physiology&Biophysics
> CWRU, Cleveland, OH 44106-4970
> E-mail uxh@po.cwru.edu
> 

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From: stinky@ameritech.net                              02-Oct-99 17:56:10
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 21:37:18
Subj: Re: Thinkpad 760 ELD, Warp 4, and External Floppy?

From: stinky@ameritech.net

I managed to install Warp 4 on my TP760 ELD, though it was the least 
desirable solution.

I ended up making 51 diskette images from the Warp 4 CD, an arduous
and boring process.


John

In <dxKI3.61$L3.159@nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech.net>, stinky@ameritech.net
writes:
>Good tip, but not relevant.  The drive is firmly seated on the connector for
the
>external box, and the plug is locked in place on the back of the ThinkPad.
>
>System configuration can see it, and passes diagnostics (including advanced
>diagnostics) with flying colors.
>
>I have the configuration set to look for only floppy drive #2 (the drive
attached
>to the port).  No dice.  Even set it as floppy drive #1 (attached to the
external
>port).  Still nothing.
>
>I'm inclined to think it's a hardware problem, as I can't boot from an
external
>floppy, and Winduhs 95 can see it, but not access it (drive not ready
message).
>
>Regards,
>
>John
>
>In <37f1f8a1.5159947@news.mindspring.com>, jepsr@mindspring.com (James E.
Paschal, Sr.) writes:
>>The only time I got the response:
>>
>>> I get the display of a floppy diskette, with the "Press F1" message.
>>>I do, the floppy activity light goes on, and I get the following message:>
>>>I990305.
>>
>>is when the floppy or cd rom didn't seat properly in the connection.
>>Never used an external floppy though.
>>
>>James E. Paschal, Sr.
>>jepsr-at-mindspring.com (replace at with @)
>
>
>jdserra at ameritech dot net
>


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From: b.l.nelson@larc.nasa.gov                          02-Oct-99 11:50:04
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 21:37:18
Subj: NS 4.61 GA Check mail stopped web page access

From: Bennie Nelson <b.l.nelson@larc.nasa.gov>

Netscape Communicator 4.61 GA had a problem yesterday and had to be shut down. 
 
I wondered how cleanly it would get out of the situation and I was quite
pleased that it came down down without having to be killed or forcing a
reboot.  The details:

1) In the browser, I clicked on a link and the page (ZDNET) started to load,
but
quit after displaying the graphics at the top and some text;
2) I pressed Ctrl-Alt-T and noticed that there was only one active item
listed,
checking the pop server for mail;
3) I switched to the Mail window and noted that no activity was taking place;
4) I switched back to the browser window and could not get any links to work;
5) When the pop server entry never completed, I tried pinging that server and
the results indicated it was responding;
6) I closed all open Netscape windows and waited until Netscape disappeared 
from the Process list in TOP before restarting it;
7) The browser started normally (and is still running a day later).

Details of my system:

OS/2 Warp 4 fp7
Dell Pentium Pro 200
80 mb RAM
Matrox Millenium video
Direct connect to Internet via T3

One other thing I've noticed: the intermittent delays in displaying screens in
the browser is still there.  Even when all of the data is local (i.e., local 
page with local graphics) sometimes there is a lengthy pause (>10 seconds)
before the page is displayed.  Or, sometimes the page will be displayed
without
the background bitmap.  As soon as I press Ctrl-Alt-T, the page is refreshed.
The C-A-T window lists all 0s.

This version is absolutely the best browser I've ever used on any platform.  I
downloaded it when it was released and installed it at home and at work, and I
have not had one SYS3175 caused by NETSCAPE on either machine.

Super job!

Bennie Nelson

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From: norrisg@linkline.com                              02-Oct-99 11:04:14
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 21:37:18
Subj: Re: SYS3175  when creating utility diskettes

From: "Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com>

Murray Weismer wrote:
> Known bug. The drivers have become too large and you ran out of disk
> space. on the floppy. You can temporarily replace some files on the HD
> with older smaller versions to get the disks created, then delete
> drivers that are not needed (reflected in config.sys) and copy the newer
> ones to the boot disks, and then clean up the Hard drive.
> A lot of work.

... or apply FP12 which contains fixes and instructions (read the
readme!).

Graham.

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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     02-Oct-99 18:13:25
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 21:37:18
Subj: Re: 100% CPU during Communicator 4.61 download

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

Doug Bissett wrote:

> Sorry, I was under the impression that you, and your team, were
> responsible to make Netscape Communicator 4.61 work properly under the
> OS/2 operating system. Since it seems to be (at least) very difficult,
> if not impossible,  to report problems through the , almost
> non-existant, official channels, it seems to me that somebody should
> be paying some attention to the problems reported in this (and other)
> newsgroup(s).

We are paying attention to them, but it is by choice,
not official.

> And, YES, it IS YOUR job. YOU work for IBM, and there are UNHAPPY
> customers out here. Believe it, or not, YOU have a responsibility to
> IBM to make sure that their customers are happy, no matter what
> department, or what job you have. I know that IBM tends to forget that
> (all too often), but EVERY employee, of EVERY company has a
> responsibility to make sure that all of their customers are happy.

So I should be answering phones, reading every
newsgroup, testing, recreating, and fixing every
single problem ever reported, responding personally
to e-mail from every customer, and flying out to
customer sites to solve their problems?  Oh, and
in the meantime, developing new products.  While
I'm at it, how do you like your coffee?

I'm not the only employee at IBM.  I do what I can
to make sure IBM's customers are happy, but I can't
be all things to all people.  Sometimes one has to
trust that other people will do what they are
responsible for doing, and allow them to do their
job.  If IBM wants to have someone monitor Usenet
with the purpose of gathering defect information as
a part of the problem-reporting chain and working
those issues towards resolution, then that's what
they will do.  If they decide that I'm the person to
do it, then I will.  But, for now, that is NOT my job,
and I might stop reading these messages tomorrow
if I so decide.  I have more important things to do,
after all.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation


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From: asavage39@my-deja.com                             03-Oct-99 03:32:16
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Re: Warp4 + FP11 + DD1 = No Shutdown

From: asavage39@my-deja.com


> You could alos grab a copy of WATCHCAT and see/kill the application >
> that isn't allow the shutdown...

The last version of WatchCat that I used, had a documented problem with
PS/2 mice.

Regards,
Al S.


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From: jyouells@lifestream.microserve.com                02-Oct-99 23:14:17
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Re: TP760 ELD, E16881$, and Trap 000D

From: John Youells <jyouells@lifestream.microserve.com>

stinky@ameritech.net wrote:

>Ever since I installed FP11, I have been getting Trap 000D errors.
>
>Here's what I get
>
>Exception in device driver: ES16881$
>TRAP 000d       ERRCD=0084  ERACC=****  ERLIM=********
>EAX=00000084 EBX=Obc70000  ECX=00000093  EDX=00000000
>ESI=9bd6001e  EDI=00000275  EBP=0000Reaa  flg=00213246
>CS:EIP=1250:000030f4  CSACC=00Ob  CSLIM=00005448
>SS:ESP=0030:00004EA6  SSACC=1097  SSLIM=00003fff
>DS=1248  DSACC=0093  DSLIM=00002b62  CR0=8001001b
>ES=1248  ESACC=0093  ESLIM=00002b62  CR2=ffecb028
>FS=0000  FSACC=****  FSLIM=********
>GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
>
>The system detected an internal processing error at
>location ##0168:fff492de - 000e:c2de
>60000, 9084
>
>05860570
>Internal revision 9.035, 99/04/01
>
>FYI, it's a Model 760 ELD-U3F, with 72 MB of memory, 810 M hard disk
>
>Thanks,
>
>John
>
>jdserra at ameritech dot net
In the readme.1st file of FP11 (you did read it first right :) (and also fp12
and maybe FP10) 

Quote: 
4.0.4 TRAP IN ES16881$ AFTER FP10 APPLIED

   We do not ship any of the ESS sound card drivers in this Fixpak.  To
   corrrect the problem, get the latest ESS device driver for your card from
   the OS/2 Device Driver Pak online at

   http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/multimed/esstechn


   Do this before you install the FixPak.

Hope this helps 




John Youells
LifeStream Computing

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From: asavage39@my-deja.com                             03-Oct-99 03:27:19
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Re: Peer Fix IP8412 problems

From: asavage39@my-deja.com

In article <EFkC3.160$am6.37274@typhoon2.gnilink.net>,
  Stephen Eickhoff <"operagost"@e-mail.com (remove the - )> wrote:
>
>
> mike.luther@ziplog.com wrote:
>
> >
> > Likely a very old and known problem.  The original PEERINST program
will
> > not handle path lengths longer than about 225 bytes!

This is a bit misleading: ANY line in the CONFIG.SYS longer than 225
chars will result in an error.  I found this out "the hard way", after
trimming back all PATH statements, and still having the problem.  Turns
out that some CONFIG.SYS reorg utility I'd run put a whole bunch of REM
lines at the top of the file, some of which were 240 chars.  Once I
removed them, voila!

Regards,
Al S.


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From: asavage@iname.com                                 03-Oct-99 03:43:03
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Re: FP12 RSU bug? Syntax error on line 569 . . .

From: asavage@iname.com

In article <37F3B538.941E0DB@us.ibm.com>,
  Irv Spalten <ispalten@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> Your RSU is back level, get the latest please, see URL
>
http://ps.boulder.ibm.com/pbin-usa-ps/getobj.pl?/pdocs-usa/softupd.html

Spot on, Irv.  I've updated the RSUINST.EXE several times (I thought),
but when I went back and checked after your suggestion, it was
*seriously* backlevel.

I got suspicious when I had the same msg today on a client's box and
FP11!

Regards,
Al S.


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From: norrisg@linkline.com                              02-Oct-99 21:37:10
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Re: 100% CPU during Communicator 4.61 download

From: "Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com>

"Jeffrey S. Kobal" wrote:
> do it, then I will.  But, for now, that is NOT my job,
> and I might stop reading these messages tomorrow
> if I so decide.  I have more important things to do,
> after all.

Please don't go.

Graham.

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From: philbike@my-deja.com                              02-Oct-99 23:43:05
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Re: Trap000D when clicking drive icon or using DosQueryPathInfo

From: philbike@my-deja.com

My system is doing the same thing, but I can't even boot it into OS/2,
even from the utility discs!!!!  I think Pinball.sys destroys HPFS
volumes with newer fixpacks of NT.  Oh well, I guess I can't use NT any
more.

-Phil


In article <37DFB8EF.5037CB5B@rci.rutgers.edu>,
  Wayne Hungridge <hungridg@rci.rutgers.edu> wrote:
>  After installing Fixpack 9 on Warp 4 in March, I began getting
>  Trap000D's when I clicked certain drive icons.
>  I found that DosQueryPathInfo with level 3 request (to get EA's) for
>  certain files triggered the same trap.  Sometimes it happens on
>  'WP ROOT. SF', sometimes on a subdirectory.
>
>   As far as I can determine, errors occur in root directory
>   of HPFS partitions only.
>
>   Drives are on a server accessed by a client running Warp 4.
>   Server is running on Windows NT Server 4.0 (SP2),
>   using a version of PINBALL.SYS copied from NT 3.51 (SP2)
>   to access HPFS partitions.
>
>   I began sharing directories on the server around the same time
>   that I installed the fixpack so I'm not sure that the fixpack
>   is relevant.  (Problem continues after installing fixpack 10.)
>
>   After reformatting the drive I noticed that the EA's of one
>   subdirectory were corrupted after accessing files in that
>   subdirectory from the client.
>
>   EAUTIL triggers the trap when I attempt to strip the EA's
>   from affected files or directories and Unimaint crashes
>   when I try to look at them.  RD <dir> also triggers the
>   trap.
>
>   Any assistance will be most appreciated.
>   Wayne Hungridge
>
> Notes:
>
>   Disk driver versions:
>        IBM1S506.ADD  11-18-98, 18:56:00, size 54,158
>        OS2DASD.DMD   08-07-98, 12:19:00, size 40,894
>        IBMIDECD.FLT  09-30-98, 21:14:00, size 24,136
>
>   Register details follow:
>
> Trap 000d    ERRCD = 0000    ERACC = ****  ERLIM = **** ****
> EAX = 0000 0004  EBX = 0096 4d4e  ECX = 0000 0004  EDX = 0000 2020
> ESI = fe16 0000  EDI = ffff 19c8  EBP = 0101 4d14  FLG = 0001 2293
> CS:EIP = 08a0:0000 554a  CSACC = 009b CSLIM = 0000 fa17
> SS:ESP = 0030:0000 4d0e  SSACC = 1097 SSLIM = 0000 4397
> DS = 0000   DSACC = ****  DSLIM = **** ****  CR0 = 8001 001b
> ES = 2e20   ESACC = 0093  ESLIM = 0000 bfff  CR2 = 0095 bfb0
> FS = 03c0   FSACC = 0093  FSLIM = 0000 0023
> GS = 0000   GSACC = ****  GSLIM = **** ****
>
> The system detected an internal processing error at
> location ##0168:fff4 92de - 000e:c2de.
> 60000, 9084
>
> 06860652
>
> Internal revision 9.034, 98/11/17
>
>


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From: wwilly@one.net                                    03-Oct-99 06:17:07
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 05:13:17
Subj: Re: Peer Fix IP8412 problems

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <7t6if6$led$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  asavage39@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article
<EFkC3.160$am6.37274@typhoon2.gnilink.net>,
>   Stephen Eickhoff <"operagost"@e-mail.com (remove
the - )> wrote:
> > mike.luther@ziplog.com wrote:
> > > Likely a very old and known problem.  The
original PEERINST program
> will
> > > not handle path lengths longer than about 225
bytes!
> This is a bit misleading: ANY line in the
CONFIG.SYS longer than 225
> chars will result in an error.  I found this out
"the hard way", after
> trimming back all PATH statements, and still having
the problem.  Turns
> out that some CONFIG.SYS reorg utility I'd run put
a whole bunch of REM
> lines at the top of the file, some of which were
240 chars.  Once I
> removed them, voila!

Well, during my most recent tilt at this problem I
carefully trimmed ALL lines in my CONFIG.SYS so they
were under 200 characters, not just the 3 PATH
statements.  No voil pour moi.  Summarizing my
problems:

1. I'm missing some Peer Desktop objects, most
importantly the Shared Resources & Network
Connections object.
2. I no longer have ANY of my Peer classes registered
as a result of evasive maneuvers I've tried.  Some of
them were already deregistered by applying the Fix
Pack IP08412.  And they won't register now either.
3. I can't define any new network printers.
4. I can't define share points on my system so that
they automatically share out when I do NET START REQ.
5. Permitting specific patterns of permissions for
specific users is a nightmare.
6. I can't run the Configuration utility to configure
anything.  It gets a SYS3175.
7. I can't run the De-install utility to remove the
feature.  It gets a SYS3175.
8. I can't run the Install utility to backlevel to
the original software from the install CD.  It gets a
SYS3175.  (I know that it's actually the same
PEERINST.EXE in points 6, 7, & 8.)

I can get things to work by using NET commands, but
it's clumsy.  Once that's done, however, all Peer
functionality is there.  The one network printer I
defined before IP08412 damaged my system does still
work fine.  And all other pre-existing share points
do share out automatically when the Requester starts.

And this happened on my office system but not my home
system.  IP08412 applied fine at home, causing no
damage & no problems whatsoever.  I did it there
first, which is why I have been so baffled when doing
it at work caused all this trouble.

WW
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From: wwilly@one.net                                    03-Oct-99 05:24:09
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 05:13:17
Subj: Re: TP760 ELD, E16881$, and Trap 000D

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <wZrJ3.3242$L3.793@nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech.net>,
  stinky@nospam.com wrote:
        <<<snip>>>
> Exception in device driver: ES16881$
        <<<snip>>>

Wild-ass guess: Check the README.1ST file that comes with the Fix Pack.
Look for advice concerning ESS sound cards.

WW
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From: stinky@ameritech.net                              03-Oct-99 09:16:16
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 10:24:09
Subj: Re: TP760 ELD, ES16881$, and Trap 000D

From: stinky@ameritech.net

Hello again!

I re-installed OS/2, this time using only FP10, and got the same
result.

I used the ES1688 driver pack from the ESS web site, which is
at the same revision level as the drivers from the IBM Device
Driver Pack Online site. (1.03 for AudioDrive).

Has anyone else experienced this problem?  It seems as though my options
are limited to running without any sort of fixpak but have sound, or run with
a fixpak but play in silence.  



In <wZrJ3.3242$L3.793@nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech.net>, stinky@ameritech.net
writes:
>Ever since I installed FP11, I have been getting Trap 000D errors.
>
>Here's what I get
>
>Exception in device driver: ES16881$
>TRAP 000d       ERRCD=0084  ERACC=****  ERLIM=********
>EAX=00000084 EBX=Obc70000  ECX=00000093  EDX=00000000
>ESI=9bd6001e  EDI=00000275  EBP=0000Reaa  flg=00213246
>CS:EIP=1250:000030f4  CSACC=00Ob  CSLIM=00005448
>SS:ESP=0030:00004EA6  SSACC=1097  SSLIM=00003fff
>DS=1248  DSACC=0093  DSLIM=00002b62  CR0=8001001b
>ES=1248  ESACC=0093  ESLIM=00002b62  CR2=ffecb028
>FS=0000  FSACC=****  FSLIM=********
>GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
>
>The system detected an internal processing error at
>location ##0168:fff492de - 000e:c2de
>60000, 9084
>
>05860570
>Internal revision 9.035, 99/04/01
>
>FYI, it's a Model 760 ELD-U3F, with 72 MB of memory, 810 M hard disk
>
>Thanks,
>
>John
>
>jdserra at ameritech dot net
>


jdserra at ameritech dot net

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From: wwilly@one.net                                    03-Oct-99 06:25:04
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 10:24:09
Subj: Re: Warp4 + FP11 + DD1 = No Shutdown

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <7t6iog$lgn$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  asavage39@my-deja.com wrote:
> > You could alos grab a copy of WATCHCAT and
see/kill the application >
> > that isn't allow the shutdown...
> The last version of WatchCat that I used, had a
documented problem with
> PS/2 mice.

True.  But if you could see your way to replacing it
with a serial mouse, you could confirm what I can
report: Watchcat continues to work brilliantly on
WARP 4 at FP12.  This must be among the best OS/2
software ever written.  It's so indispensable I wish
IBM would just pay Felix & Thomas a huge royalty &
integrate the thing into OS/2.

WW
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From: stinky@ameritech.net                              03-Oct-99 09:35:01
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 10:24:09
Subj: Re: TP760 ELD, E16881$, and Trap 000D

From: stinky@ameritech.net

Strange, I do recall installing the ESS drivers prior to installing FP10.  In
fact, 
it was one of the things I did shortly after loading Warp 4 GA.

Also, I noticed that the ESS drivers on the IBM DDPAK online site are
a revision behind, just like the ones from the ESSTECH site (1.0.3, versus
1.0.4 for the ThinkPad drivers.)

In <7t6p9v$p7q$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser
<wwilly@one.net> writes:
>In article <wZrJ3.3242$L3.793@nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech.net>,
>  stinky@nospam.com wrote:
>        <<<snip>>>
>> Exception in device driver: ES16881$
>        <<<snip>>>
>
>Wild-ass guess: Check the README.1ST file that comes with the Fix Pack.
>Look for advice concerning ESS sound cards.
>
>WW
>Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!
>
>
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From: scalisi@tin.it                                    03-Oct-99 15:11:27
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:25
Subj: Re: Peer Fix IP8412 problems

From: scalisi@tin.it

In <7t6if6$led$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 10/03/99
   at 03:27 AM, asavage39@my-deja.com said:

>In article <EFkC3.160$am6.37274@typhoon2.gnilink.net>,
>  Stephen Eickhoff <"operagost"@e-mail.com (remove the - )> wrote: >
>>
>> mike.luther@ziplog.com wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Likely a very old and known problem.  The original PEERINST program
>will
>> > not handle path lengths longer than about 225 bytes!

>This is a bit misleading: ANY line in the CONFIG.SYS longer than 225 chars
>will result in an error.  I found this out "the hard way", after trimming
>back all PATH statements, and still having the problem.  Turns out that some
>CONFIG.SYS reorg utility I'd run put a whole bunch of REM lines at the top
>of the file, some of which were 240 chars.  Once I removed them, voila!

I have a line 413 characters long in my config.sys and there is no problem!
--
-----------------------------------------------------------
Antonio(Nino) Scalisi           scalisi@tin.it
at 15:11(+0200, relative to GMT) on Sunday, 03 Oct 1999
Using MR/2 ICE v1.66  Reg: #20729.
Under ---> OS/2 WARP 4 rev.9.036 (fixpack 12)
Java ver.  1.1.8  build 19990910
ObjREXX 6.00   TCPIP 4.2 - MPTN 6.2006 (TCPIP 4.1 + W08620)
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: gasparetto@gbsw.REMOVE.TO.REPLY.net               03-Oct-99 13:39:08
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:25
Subj: Re: TP760 ELD, E16881$, and Trap 000D

From: gasparetto@gbsw.REMOVE.TO.REPLY.net (Sandro Gasparetto)

In message <wZrJ3.3242$L3.793@nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech.net> -
stinky@ameritech.net writes:
:>
:>Ever since I installed FP11, I have been getting Trap 000D errors.
:>
:>Exception in device driver: ES16881$

I Know this trap .....
The only solution is :
1 - rem-out the Ess driver - Boot
2 - reinstall the MMos2
3 - reinstall the Ess driver.
4 - save the directory MMOS2, you might need it in the future !

It looks like the fixpack breaks the Ess support :-((



CETERUM CENSEO FENESTRAS ESSE DELENDAS
gasparetto@gbsw.net   http://gbsw.net   ICQ# 5794439

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From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com                              03-Oct-99 13:52:05
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:25
Subj: Re: TP760 ELD, ES16881$, and Trap 000D

From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com

In <Q9FJ3.5598$L3.866@nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech.net>, stinky@ameritech.net
writes:
>Hello again!
>
>I re-installed OS/2, this time using only FP10, and got the same
>result.
>
>I used the ES1688 driver pack from the ESS web site, which is
>at the same revision level as the drivers from the IBM Device
>Driver Pack Online site. (1.03 for AudioDrive).
>
>Has anyone else experienced this problem?  It seems as though my options
>are limited to running without any sort of fixpak but have sound, or run with
>a fixpak but play in silence.  
>
>
>
>In <wZrJ3.3242$L3.793@nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech.net>, stinky@ameritech.net
writes:
>>Ever since I installed FP11, I have been getting Trap 000D errors.
>>
>>Here's what I get
>>
>>Exception in device driver: ES16881$
>>TRAP 000d       ERRCD=0084  ERACC=****  ERLIM=********
>>EAX=00000084 EBX=Obc70000  ECX=00000093  EDX=00000000
>>ESI=9bd6001e  EDI=00000275  EBP=0000Reaa  flg=00213246
>>CS:EIP=1250:000030f4  CSACC=00Ob  CSLIM=00005448
>>SS:ESP=0030:00004EA6  SSACC=1097  SSLIM=00003fff
>>DS=1248  DSACC=0093  DSLIM=00002b62  CR0=8001001b
>>ES=1248  ESACC=0093  ESLIM=00002b62  CR2=ffecb028
>>FS=0000  FSACC=****  FSLIM=********
>>GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
>>
>>The system detected an internal processing error at
>>location ##0168:fff492de - 000e:c2de
>>60000, 9084
>>
>>05860570
>>Internal revision 9.035, 99/04/01
>>
>>FYI, it's a Model 760 ELD-U3F, with 72 MB of memory, 810 M hard disk
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>John
>>

Here is what I did to recover:

Use the utility disk to boot to the os/2 full screen command prompt.
Edit the config.sys and rem out references to the ess drivers.
Then reboot the system as normal.
Get the ess driver from the ibm site as described in the readme.
Install it (minstall).

Things should be back to normal. I recommend remming out references
to the 1688 driver before installing fixpaks above 9. Then reinstall
the driver after the fixpak is applied.

Don't understand why this problem is occuring with this specific driver.


Keith Cotroneo
cotroneo@stny.rr.com

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 29-Sep-99 18:54:06
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:25
Subj: Re: rubbish on os2 prompt!

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

Terence Cheng <terence@nikoyo.com> wrote:

>    After I install the NeoMagic drive on my notebook that running
>simplify chinese os2 warp 4.0, I can change the resolution to 1024x768.
>However, when I use the os2 prompt or dos prompt, the system message
>change to rubbish. For example, after I type dir, the harddisk size,
>free space will change to rubbish. I guess it is because of the fonts
>file doesn't support that size, but I don't know how to fix it.
>    Could anyone tell me how to fix it?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Terence


A wild guess -- change to a lower resolution?

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: cvopicka@erols.com                                03-Oct-99 11:04:24
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:25
Subj: Re: 100% CPU during Communicator 4.61 download

From: Ron Vopicka <cvopicka@erols.com>

> > do it, then I will.  But, for now, that is NOT my job,
> > and I might stop reading these messages tomorrow
> > if I so decide.  I have more important things to do,
> > after all.
> 
> Please don't go.
> 

Seconded!

Just remember, people aren't shooting at you, you are just standing
between them and the target.  Unfortunately, we have a
quantum-mechanical paradox here.  If you move, our target disappears,
too.

Having worked for the 3 letter firm for over 25 years, I can fully
appreciate your feelings, but you have been and are one of the few
valuable and direct interfaces available to the onesy-twosy customer
set.

Ron

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From: stinky@ameritech.net                              04-Oct-99 00:17:01
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:25
Subj: Re: TP760 ELD, ES16881$, and Trap 000D

From: stinky@ameritech.net

Thanks for the tip.  In fact, that's exactly what I did.  Still, I get the 
traps.

What I'll probably do is re-install OS/2, and install only FP9 (and leave
it there), as FP10 and above seem to break the ES1688 driver.

Regards,

John


In <fcJJ3.2979$56.151980@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, cotroneo@stny.rr.com writes:
>In <Q9FJ3.5598$L3.866@nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech.net>, stinky@ameritech.net
writes:
>>Hello again!
>>
>>I re-installed OS/2, this time using only FP10, and got the same
>>result.
>>
>>I used the ES1688 driver pack from the ESS web site, which is
>>at the same revision level as the drivers from the IBM Device
>>Driver Pack Online site. (1.03 for AudioDrive).
>>
>>Has anyone else experienced this problem?  It seems as though my options
>>are limited to running without any sort of fixpak but have sound, or run
with
>>a fixpak but play in silence.  
>>

>
>Here is what I did to recover:
>
>Use the utility disk to boot to the os/2 full screen command prompt.
>Edit the config.sys and rem out references to the ess drivers.
>Then reboot the system as normal.
>Get the ess driver from the ibm site as described in the readme.
>Install it (minstall).
>
>Things should be back to normal. I recommend remming out references
>to the 1688 driver before installing fixpaks above 9. Then reinstall
>the driver after the fixpak is applied.
>
>Don't understand why this problem is occuring with this specific driver.
>
>
>Keith Cotroneo
>cotroneo@stny.rr.com
>


jdserra at ameritech dot net

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From: merlins@ibm.net                                   03-Oct-99 11:28:25
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:07
Subj: Re: 16-bit Windows Plugins non-functional

From: Meinolf Sondermann <merlins@ibm.net>

Hello,

in the ordinary plugins directory there is a file named DUMMYPLUG.DLL.
Whenever C461 at startup finds a new plugin in the win16/plugins directory,
this dummy gets copied to a new name - which is the same as the win16 one -
into the ordinary plugins directory. While copied it is patched reflecting the 
original win16 plugin.

C404 did this in the same way, but C461 cannot deal with dummy-copies of an
older version, but sees the existent file and does not copy the right version.

Solution:
Delete the dlls in the ordinary plugins directory that have names of win16
plugins.
Startup C461 again. Now it should recognize the win16 plugins.

Good luck
Meinolf


Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:
> 
> Using WARP 4, FP12, DDFP1, WR08620, IP08412, Java
> 1.1.8+1999/09/19 update, Communicator 4.61, PlugPack
> 3.0.
> 
> I installed, de-installed, and re-installed the 3.0
> Plugin Pack  I made VERY sure I selected the 16-bit
> Windows option as well as the other 2.  I watched the
> installation status window very carefully & I did see
> the message about the 16-bit plugins flash by.
> 
> But it's not listed in the about:plugins list.  It
> also doesn't work.  I've found a couple of sites with
> Real Video files on the web page as plugins: the
> Dilbert site & (of all places) the New England
> Patriots web site.  I get one of those icons that
> looks like a piece from a jigsaw puzzle that says to
> click here to get the plugin.  When I do, I get a
> small browser window with a button that says click
> here to get the plugin.  So I do.  The small window
> closes & a new full-size browser instantiation
> launches.  That pulls up the plug-in finder at the
> Netscape web site.  But it claims it can't find any
> plugin for the MIME type of
> audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin.
> 
> I suppose the audio/video streams at those sites are
> actually G2 so I'm out of luck for playing them
> anyway.  But that should be reported to me after the
> browser at least attempts to launch the Real Player
> in a little window embedded in the web page.
> Instead, I'm seeing behavior that says I don't have
> the 16-bit Windows plugin support at all.
> 
> Just for information:
> 
> Directory of E:\COMMUNIC\PROGRAM\WIN16
> 
>  2-01-99 11:34p         <DIR>      0 ----  .
>  2-01-99 11:34p         <DIR>      0 ----  ..
>  2-01-99 11:34p         <DIR>    403 ----  PLUGINS
>         3 file(s)             0 bytes used
> 
> Directory of E:\COMMUNIC\PROGRAM\WIN16\PLUGINS
> 
>  2-01-99 11:34p         <DIR>      0 ----  .
>  2-01-99 11:34p         <DIR>      0 ----  ..
> 11-22-97  8:47p       22,720    165 a---  NPRA16.DLL
>  2-19-97  3:24p      155,424    166 a---  NPQTW16.DLL
>         4 file(s)       178,144 bytes used
> Total files listed:
>         7 file(s)       178,144 bytes used
> 
> This shows I've got the right directory structure
> with the right directory names, 8 characters or
> shorter, and I really do have the Real Audio 16-bit
> plugin (as well as the Quick Time plugin).  I don't
> know what other modules I need where.  I have some
> INET*.DLLs in MMOS2\DLL.  I have a
> E:\COMMUNIC\PROGRAM\PBROWSER.EXE.  I have a
> E:\COMMUNIC\PROGRAM\PLUGINS\NPPROXY.DLL.  Both those
> Windows plugins in the WIN16\PLUGINS subdirectory are
> duplicated in the main PLUGINS directory.  I vaguely
> recall that was advice offered here months ago.  I
> have a E:\COMMUNIC\PROGRAM\winplug.reg that reads:
> 
> 1 E:\COMMUNIC\PROGRAM\WIN16\PLUGINS\NPQTW16.DLL
> 1 E:\COMMUNIC\PROGRAM\WIN16\PLUGINS\NPRA16.DLL
> 
> But I vaguely recall someone saying that used to be
> required by 2.02 but not 4.04.  Well, I still have
> it.
> 
> I have explicitly tested the native OS/2 plugins for
> DSMI & Acrobat Reader & they both work fine.  The
> about:plugins page does list all the expected native
> OS/2 audio & video plugins.
> 
> Help...............
> 
> WW
> Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    03-Oct-99 17:13:00
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: Newer version of Win-OS/2?

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

Christian Hennecke (christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de) wrote:

: Does this program make use of Win32s? If it does, which version are you
: using?

	Corel WordPerfect Suite 7 for Windows 3.1 does not use Win32s.


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From: pvolsted@image.dk                                 03-Oct-99 23:02:18
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: FP12 + Object Rexx + Object Desktop 2.0

From: peter volsted <pvolsted@image.dk>

hi

> Chuck McKinnis wrote:
> 
> I have a continuing problem with Object Rexx WPS support.  When I try to
> run the wpsinst.cmd to enable the WPS support for Object Rexx, I get a
> continuing series of WPS resets.  The only out I have found is to
> shutdown, reboot to a command line, and copy my saved os2.ini back as
> os2.ini to delete the Object Rexx registration of WPS support.
> 
Did you run the SWITCHRX.CMD from your OS/2-directory?

good luck

peter

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From: Brian@webone.com.au                               04-Oct-99 11:04:14
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: FP12 + Object Rexx + Object Desktop 2.0

From: Brian@webone.com.au

This problem went through this newsgroup about 2months back.
I have tried the WPSINST.CMD twice with disastrous results, including the
restarts
as described below.
Now I just use the SWITCHRX and all my Object Rexx seems to work.
Apparently Stardock know about this problem but I have not seen any
comments from them re a possible fix.
One word of caution there is a lot of Rexx stuff out there that does not like
Object Rexx. e.g. The install for the ESS sound drivers will not work. I had
to SWITCHRX back to classic run the install and then SWITCHRX back again.
A pain because it requires a reboot.
Brian

In <37F7C46D.B47AEBCF@image.dk>, peter volsted <pvolsted@image.dk> writes:
>hi
>
>> Chuck McKinnis wrote:
>> 
>> I have a continuing problem with Object Rexx WPS support.  When I try to
>> run the wpsinst.cmd to enable the WPS support for Object Rexx, I get a
>> continuing series of WPS resets.  The only out I have found is to
>> shutdown, reboot to a command line, and copy my saved os2.ini back as
>> os2.ini to delete the Object Rexx registration of WPS support.
>> 
>Did you run the SWITCHRX.CMD from your OS/2-directory?
>
>good luck
>
>peter
>

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From: cytan@fnal.gov                                    03-Oct-99 15:46:05
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: FP12 and OS2ASPI.DMD

From: cytan@fnal.gov (Cheng-Yang Tan)

In message <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-PBGsVHcstqEc@localhost> - lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca
(Lorne Sunley) writes:
:>
:>On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 00:48:10, nineveh@wwa.com wrote:
:>
:>> FIXPAK 12 and OS2ASPI.DMD don't like each other. After installing FP12, I
got a trap
:>> at boot up, something to do with drive A:. I rebooted, pressing ALT+F2 to
see which
:>> device driver was the culprit, and discovered it was OS2ASPI.DMD. I
commented this
:>> line out from CONFIG.SYS and all booted well. But without OS2ASPI.DMD I
cannot
:>> use RSJ CD Writer for my CDR drive. So I backed out to FIXPAK11 (I 'd like 
to see
:>> windoze do *that*!)
:>> 
:>> Anyone else encounter this? And if so, is there a fix?
:>> 

I've just installed FP12 and Device FP 1 and have RSJ CDWriter and there were
zero problems with OS2ASPI.DMD.

My OS2ASPI.DMD size is:


-rw-rw---a    11224 Jul 12 15:23 os2aspi.dmd



Cheng-Yang Tan
cytan@fnal.gov


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From: mckinnis@attglobal.net                            03-Oct-99 12:25:01
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: FP12 + Object Rexx + Object Desktop 2.0

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@attglobal.net>

I have a continuing problem with Object Rexx WPS support.  When I try to
run the wpsinst.cmd to enable the WPS support for Object Rexx, I get a
continuing series of WPS resets.  The only out I have found is to
shutdown, reboot to a command line, and copy my saved os2.ini back as
os2.ini to delete the Object Rexx registration of WPS support.

Since I do not have the problem on my Thinkpad without Object Desktop, I
have come to the conclusion that OD is the culprit.
-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: norrisg@linkline.com                              03-Oct-99 18:04:09
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: FP12 + Object Rexx + Object Desktop 2.0

From: "Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com>

Chuck McKinnis wrote:
> Since I do not have the problem on my Thinkpad without Object Desktop, I
> have come to the conclusion that OD is the culprit.

Correct. Fixkit 2 for OD 2 is supposedly under development again, and
will fix this.

Graham.

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From: mattern@wco.com                                   03-Oct-99 12:49:20
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: FP 12 and FP 42 now available

From: don mattern <mattern@wco.com>

Irv Spalten wrote:
> 
> Subject FP's have been released.

    xr_m012.1dk to .hdk?   clicking on same downloads the files but the
saving location window doesn't come up, asking us where to save the
files.   what's going on?
    don mattern
> 
> Boulder did have a SPACE problem, and it appears that FP 12 ran into it.
> We (IBM) are now going to be placing a 'header' file in the FTP
> directory. For instance, you will see this in XR_W042
> 
> *
> * Initial Release of OS/2 Warp 3 FP 42
> * 09/30/99
> * Diskette Images XR_W042.1DK to XR_W042.JDK
> *
> 
> In XR_M012 you will see this :
> 
> *
> * Initial Release of OS/2 Warp 4 FP 12
> * 09/30/99
> * Diskette Images XR_M012.1DK to XR_M012.HDK
> * 09/30/99 1:30 PM CST
> * Diskette Image XR_M012.FDK replaced, file was corrupt
> *
> 
> These headers will be updated as we change any file for any reason.
> 
> We also know people look for new directories, and grab files. The
> initial headers will now say uploading in progress or no
> verified/incomplete, and then replaced with an official release date.
> 
> Irv

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From: ilya@math.ohio-state.edu                          03-Oct-99 20:03:29
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: FP12 + Object Rexx + Object Desktop 2.0

From: ilya@math.ohio-state.edu (Ilya Zakharevich)

[A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to Chuck McKinnis 
<mckinnis@attglobal.net>],
who wrote in article <37F79F7E.1706547E@attglobal.net>:
> I have a continuing problem with Object Rexx WPS support.  When I try to
> run the wpsinst.cmd to enable the WPS support for Object Rexx, I get a
> continuing series of WPS resets.  The only out I have found is to
> shutdown, reboot to a command line, and copy my saved os2.ini back as
> os2.ini to delete the Object Rexx registration of WPS support.
> 
> Since I do not have the problem on my Thinkpad without Object Desktop, I
> have come to the conclusion that OD is the culprit.

Do you have something like

RUN=D:\OS2\RUNODINS.EXE

in your config.sys?  You may try running this program manually.  On my
machine it could not run from config.sys, but when I run it manually
(once?)  and REM-ed this line in config.sys, things started to "work"
better.

If I run OREXX samples I *do* get WPS restarts time-to-time, but they
at least are not reproducible.

Ilya

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From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com                              04-Oct-99 01:06:02
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: TP760 ELD, ES16881$, and Trap 000D

From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com

In <2mSJ3.7169$L3.908@nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech.net>, stinky@ameritech.net
writes:
>Thanks for the tip.  In fact, that's exactly what I did.  Still, I get the 
>traps.
>
>What I'll probably do is re-install OS/2, and install only FP9 (and leave
>it there), as FP10 and above seem to break the ES1688 driver.
>
>Regards,
>
>John
>
>
>In <fcJJ3.2979$56.151980@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, cotroneo@stny.rr.com writes:
>>In <Q9FJ3.5598$L3.866@nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech.net>, stinky@ameritech.net
writes:
>>>Hello again!
>>>
>>>I re-installed OS/2, this time using only FP10, and got the same
>>>result.
>>>
>>>I used the ES1688 driver pack from the ESS web site, which is
>>>at the same revision level as the drivers from the IBM Device
>>>Driver Pack Online site. (1.03 for AudioDrive).
>>>
>>>Has anyone else experienced this problem?  It seems as though my options
>>>are limited to running without any sort of fixpak but have sound, or run
with
>>>a fixpak but play in silence.  
>>>
>
>>
>>Here is what I did to recover:
>>
>>Use the utility disk to boot to the os/2 full screen command prompt.
>>Edit the config.sys and rem out references to the ess drivers.
>>Then reboot the system as normal.
>>Get the ess driver from the ibm site as described in the readme.
>>Install it (minstall).
>>
>>Things should be back to normal. I recommend remming out references
>>to the 1688 driver before installing fixpaks above 9. Then reinstall
>>the driver after the fixpak is applied.
>>
>>Don't understand why this problem is occuring with this specific driver.
>>
>>
>>Keith Cotroneo
>>cotroneo@stny.rr.com
>>
>
>
>jdserra at ameritech dot net
>

Instead of re-installing os/2, try just re-installing multimedia support.
Use selective install.


Keith Cotroneo
cotroneo@stny.rr.com

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From: kgeorge@point.net                                 03-Oct-99 22:31:22
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: Warp4 + FP11 + DD1 = No Shutdown

From: "Kevin George" <kgeorge@point.net>

<asavage39@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:7t6iog$lgn$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
>
>
> > You could alos grab a copy of WATCHCAT and see/kill the application >
> > that isn't allow the shutdown...
>
> The last version of WatchCat that I used, had a documented problem with
> PS/2 mice.


Cat and mice don't go together.  :)


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From: pNoOrStPiAgM@ibm.net                              03-Oct-99 21:49:09
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: Peer Fix IP8412 problems

From: pNoOrStPiAgM@ibm.net (Harald Portig)

My LIBPATH contains 604 characters, PATH contains 553 with no 
perceived problems ;-)

On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 03:27:39, asavage39@my-deja.com wrote:

> Turns
> out that some CONFIG.SYS reorg utility I'd run put a whole bunch of REM
> lines at the top of the file, some of which were 240 chars.  Once I
> removed them, voila!

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From: bristow@mindspring.com                            03-Oct-99 22:25:02
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Scrolling problems with Netscape 4.4 & 4.61 on Thinkpad 770

From: Bristow Anderson <bristow@mindspring.com>

I've had this problem since I replaced Netscape 4.04 (Navigator) with
Netscape 4.4 (Communicator), and had hoped that Communicator 4.61 would
fix it, but it didn't.  At say one out of six sites I visit, the content
of the site won't scroll up and down correctly, but instead collages on
top of itself, overwriting the previous screen's content--a refresh is
required to clear the screen of all but the correct content.  With
bulleted text, the problem is worse, and the bulleted parts don't even
write to the screen.

Anybody else have this problem, on a Thinkpad or elsewhere?  (I talked
to one desktop Aptiva user who hasn't.)  Any fixes?  Thanks.

Bristow Anderson
bristow@mindspring.com
10/3/99

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From: pNoOrStPiAgM@ibm.net                              04-Oct-99 02:36:07
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Fixpak 12 and Seamless WINOS2

From: pNoOrStPiAgM@ibm.net (Harald Portig)

Fixpak 12 installed cleanly over Fixpak 11.  However seamless WINOS2 
sessions would hang during startup (I still use Excel 4.0c quite a 
bit).  The CPU meter was pegged at 100%.  After hitting Ctrl-Esc the 
Window List came up, but the WINOS2 session did not show up yet.  The 
process could then be killed in WarpCenter (SYSINIT(Excel)).  
Full-screen WINOS2 sessions were not affected.  The hang occurred 
always when some PM application was already running, and most of the 
time when not.  By going back to SEAMLESS.DLL from the original Warp4 
installation the problem is apparently solved (what am I giving up by 
using this older version?).

The versions of the DLL from Fixpaks 8, 10, 11 and 12 all produced the
same problem symptoms.  However complete installations of these 
fixpaks including their respective versions of SEAMLESS.DLL had not 
had this problem.

Harald Portig
Remove the letters NOSPAM from my address to reply.

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From: jsjones@selectric.net                             04-Oct-99 03:31:20
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: Fixpak 12 and Seamless WINOS2

From: jsjones@selectric.net

I'm not sure if you are still having the problem, but find I can't load a 
seamless Win-OS/2 session if I have ZOC or Netscape running. If I launch it
before 
starting them, I have no trouble and I can usually start a session if I first
quit 
both ZOC and Netscape.

In <c6cdZeiVIueP-pn2-ejBgoqt9WUPE@localhost>, pNoOrStPiAgM@ibm.net (Harald
Portig) writes:
>Fixpak 12 installed cleanly over Fixpak 11.  However seamless WINOS2 
>sessions would hang during startup (I still use Excel 4.0c quite a 
>bit).  The CPU meter was pegged at 100%.  After hitting Ctrl-Esc the 
>Window List came up, but the WINOS2 session did not show up yet.  The 
>process could then be killed in WarpCenter (SYSINIT(Excel)).  
>Full-screen WINOS2 sessions were not affected.  The hang occurred 
>always when some PM application was already running, and most of the 
>time when not.  By going back to SEAMLESS.DLL from the original Warp4 
>installation the problem is apparently solved (what am I giving up by 
>using this older version?).
>
>The versions of the DLL from Fixpaks 8, 10, 11 and 12 all produced the
>same problem symptoms.  However complete installations of these 
>fixpaks including their respective versions of SEAMLESS.DLL had not 
>had this problem.

selectric.net? think international business machines, instead.

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From: jscott@csolve.net                                 04-Oct-99 03:32:24
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: Neat bug in 461 MAIL-NEWS

From: JohnS <jscott@csolve.net>


Hans Peter Holm wrote:
> 
> JohnS wrote:
> 
> > This one is repeatable.
> > Open newsgroup, (C.O.O.Bugs)
> > Select a message (from Wild Bill)
<snip

> Workaround for both (and the Danish spellchecker bug):
> 
> Settings | Mail and News | Formatting -> Use HTML editor when replying to
> message, instead of the plain text one. Make sure that posts to usenet is
> sent in plain text (settings on same page).
> 
> --
> Hans

Thank you Hans.

Hopefully this gets into a NC fix pac.

Cheer

John

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From: jscott@csolve.net                                 04-Oct-99 03:32:25
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: Neat bug in 461 MAIL-NEWS

From: JohnS <jscott@csolve.net>


Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:
> 
> In article <37F42EA6.B8DF089D@csolve.net>,
>   JohnS <jscott@csolve.net> wrote:
> > Bill
> > Were you able to duplicate that problem? (NG
> address copying to mail?).
> >
> > Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:
> > > In article <37F2DE31.63A7B3E9@csolve.net>,
> > >   JohnS <jscott@csolve.net> wrote:
> > >         <<<snip>>>
> > > > Cute "feature" but I'm glad wild bill didn't
> get
> > > the second reply to my
> > > > old girlfriend.<g>
> > >
> > > Right.  There's only so much helpful advice I'm
> > > qualified to give.
> 
> Ummmmm.........  John, I was only responding to your
> humorous comment.  I never use the browser for
> E-mail.  I am philosophically opposed to the concept.
> I believe a browser should browse, not do E-mail or
> Usenet.  I believe an E-mail client should do E-mail,
> not browsing or Usenet.  I believe a news client
> should do Usenet, not browsing or E-mail.  So I wish
> Communicator came with a packaging option that would
> allow me to install just the browsing functionality
> without the E-mail & Usenet components.


I agree with the philosophy, Bill, but lazyness has set
in here. I do miss my old Qmail deluxe but make do with
Changi and Netscape.

Cheers

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From: billko@postoffice.worldnet.att.net                03-Oct-99 23:53:01
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: Fixpak 12 and Seamless WINOS2

From: "Billy Ko" <billko@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>

On 4 Oct 1999 02:36:14 GMT, Harald Portig wrote:

:>Fixpak 12 installed cleanly over Fixpak 11.  However seamless WINOS2 
:>sessions would hang during startup (I still use Excel 4.0c quite a 
:>bit).  The CPU meter was pegged at 100%.  After hitting Ctrl-Esc the 
:>Window List came up, but the WINOS2 session did not show up yet.  The 
:>process could then be killed in WarpCenter (SYSINIT(Excel)).  
:>Full-screen WINOS2 sessions were not affected.  The hang occurred 
:>always when some PM application was already running, and most of the 
:>time when not.  By going back to SEAMLESS.DLL from the original Warp4 
:>installation the problem is apparently solved (what am I giving up by 
:>using this older version?).
:>
:>The versions of the DLL from Fixpaks 8, 10, 11 and 12 all produced the
:>same problem symptoms.  However complete installations of these 
:>fixpaks including their respective versions of SEAMLESS.DLL had not 
:>had this problem.
:>
:>Harald Portig
:>Remove the letters NOSPAM from my address to reply.
This worked for me:

Add "files=200" to your config.sys (without quotation marks).  I actually
think it works with anything over "files=150."

Bill
Bill
Team OS/2

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From: wwilly@one.net                                    04-Oct-99 05:37:04
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Re: 16-bit Windows Plugins non-functional

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <37F721D2.251D387E@ibm.net>,
  merlins@attglobal.net wrote:

> Hello,
>
> in the ordinary plugins directory there is a file
> named DUMMYPLUG.DLL.  Whenever C461 at startup
> finds a new plugin in the win16/plugins directory,
> this dummy gets copied to a new name - which is the
> same as the win16 one - into the ordinary plugins
> directory.  While copied it is patched reflecting
> the original win16 plugin.
>
> C404 did this in the same way, but C461 cannot deal
> with dummy-copies of an older version, but sees the
> existent file and does not copy the right version.
>
> Solution:
> Delete the dlls in the ordinary plugins directory
> that have names of win16 plugins.  Startup C461
> again.  Now it should recognize the win16 plugins.
>
> Good luck
> Meinolf

I started with this:

Directory of E:\COMMUNIC\PROGRAM\PLUGINS

 9-16-99  6:26p     3,158     61 a---  DUMYPLUG.DLL
 2-02-99 12:10p     3,158     61 a---  NPQTW16.DLL
 2-02-99 12:10p     3,158     61 a---  NPRA16.DLL

Directory of E:\COMMUNIC\PROGRAM\WIN16

 2-01-99 11:34p     <DIR>      0 ----  .
 2-01-99 11:34p     <DIR>      0 ----  ..
 2-01-99 11:34p     <DIR>    403 ----  PLUGINS

Directory of E:\COMMUNIC\PROGRAM\WIN16\PLUGINS

 2-01-99 11:34p     <DIR>      0 ----  .
 2-01-99 11:34p     <DIR>      0 ----  ..
11-22-97  8:47p     22,720    165 a---  NPRA16.DLL
 2-19-97  3:24p    155,424    166 a---  NPQTW16.DLL

I moved the 2 files NPQTW16.DLL & NPRA16.DLL out of
E:\COMMUNIC\PROGRAM\PLUGINS.  I didn't delete them
just to be safe.  Now I've got this:

Directory of E:\COMMUNIC\PROGRAM\PLUGINS

10-03-99 11:51p      3,158    348 a---  NPQTW16.DLL
10-03-99 11:51p      3,158    348 a---  NPRA16.DLL
 9-16-99  6:26p      3,158    348 a---  DUMYPLUG.DLL

Interestingly, the Title on all 3 of these files is
DUMYPLUG.DLL.  Since this is the output of a DIR
command, it shows only Real Names, not Titles.

AND NOW I HAVE SUPPORT FOR THESE 2 16-BIT WINDOWS
PLUGINS!!!!!!!  A BLESSING UPON YOU, SIR!!!!!

How in the hell did you learn this?  I haven't read
this.  I'm a bit disappointed that one of the
Netscape folks didn't respond to this.  Although my
gratitude to you, Meinolf, is unbounded.

The way I tested this is I went to the NHL home page
at ESPN http://espn.go.com/nhl/index.html & clicked
on the Real Video link there (showing how Mike Modano
got injured last night -- OUCH).  It launched a
separate little browser window with a Real Player
controller in it.  It didn't have all of the controls
of the regular Real Player, but it did have Play,
Pause, Stop, and the slider bar.  I assume it came up
like this because the link is actually a little
Javascript.  I'm just so pleased it didn't turn out
to be a G2 stream.  Then I'd have been REALLY pissed
off.

As soon as that window opened, CPU rocketed up to
100% and stayed there.  The entire video clip played
(twice, for some reason, but I'm assuming that's
because it was encoded that way at the source & is
not a problem at my end).  Response was a bit slow
when I was playing it a few minutes ago, but it did
play.  I closed the Real Player plugin window but CPU
stayed at 100%.  I closed the original Communicator
window itself, I heard the Windows closing sound
(presumably this was PBROWSER.EXE ending),
Communicator closed, and CPU dropped to 0%.  What is
up with THAT?

I tried playing more than 1 of these Real Video clips
one after the other in one session & the 100% CPU
deal doesn't seem to give me any trouble.  What
trouble I did see was that if the stream is G2 (I'm
guessing they were G2), I get a couple of Windows
popups about a missing CODEC but the stream goes
ahead & plays the audio track without the video track
anyway.  I wonder if it does the same thing with
strictly audio streams that are allegedly G2.  If I
ever find any, I'll report that here.

I find it interesting that there are web pages coded
to request objects with a MIME type of
audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin, and they do successfully
play these video clips.  But before I got this
squared away, when the browser thought I was missing
a plugin, the automatic trip to the Netscape plugin
repository failed to recognize any plugin that could
handle this MIME type.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


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From: edjaffe@phoenixsoftware.com                       03-Oct-99 23:24:02
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 05:20:19
Subj: Re: Fixpak 12 and Seamless WINOS2

From: Edward Jaffe <edjaffe@phoenixsoftware.com>

Billy Ko wrote:
> 
> Add "files=200" to your config.sys (without quotation marks).  I actually
> think it works with anything over "files=150."

I've had this problem ever since FP11 and hoped it would go away with
FP12. It didn't. Your suggestion of files=200 cured it! THANK YOU! How
did you know to do that??? What is the reason that files=80 (my previous
value) did not work after FP11?

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| Mgr., Research & Development     | Fax:   (310) 338-0801          |
| Phoenix Software International   | edjaffe@phoenixsoftware.com    |
| 5200 W. Century Blvd., Suite 800 | USS24J24 at IBMMAIL            |
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From: esko.kauppinen@ibm.net                            04-Oct-99 10:21:00
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Re: TP760 ELD, ES16881$, and Trap 000D

From: "Esko Kauppinen" <esko.kauppinen@ibm.net>

On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 00:17:02 GMT, stinky@ameritech.net wrote:

>Thanks for the tip.  In fact, that's exactly what I did.  Still, I get the 
>traps.
>
>What I'll probably do is re-install OS/2, and install only FP9 (and leave
>it there), as FP10 and above seem to break the ES1688 driver.

I'm using the ES1688 on my Compaq and also had the Trap while
installing Fixpak 10 (or was it 9?).

I solved the problem by installing the fixed driver but had a bit
difficulties finding it. I first tried one driver from the recommended
pages and it trapped too. 

Now it works well in OS/2 side but for WinOS2 I have to use the
Blaster drivers.   


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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     04-Oct-99 08:56:00
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Re: 100% CPU during Communicator 4.61 download

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 18:13:51, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" 
<murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com> wrote:

> 
> Doug Bissett wrote:
> 
> > Sorry, I was under the impression that you, and your team, were
> > responsible to make Netscape Communicator 4.61 work properly under the
> > OS/2 operating system. Since it seems to be (at least) very difficult,
> > if not impossible,  to report problems through the , almost
> > non-existant, official channels, it seems to me that somebody should
> > be paying some attention to the problems reported in this (and other)
> > newsgroup(s).
> 
> We are paying attention to them, but it is by choice,
> not official.

I think most of us realize that, and very much appreciate your 
efforts. Unfortunately, it should be official (not necessarily you, 
but SOMEONE in IBM should be looking at this stuff). It IS in IBM's 
best interest (whether THEY believe it, or not).
 
> > And, YES, it IS YOUR job. YOU work for IBM, and there are UNHAPPY
> > customers out here. Believe it, or not, YOU have a responsibility to
> > IBM to make sure that their customers are happy, no matter what
> > department, or what job you have. I know that IBM tends to forget that
> > (all too often), but EVERY employee, of EVERY company has a
> > responsibility to make sure that all of their customers are happy.
> 
> So I should be answering phones, reading every
> newsgroup, testing, recreating, and fixing every
> single problem ever reported, responding personally
> to e-mail from every customer, and flying out to
> customer sites to solve their problems?  Oh, and
> in the meantime, developing new products.  While
> I'm at it, how do you like your coffee?
> 
> I'm not the only employee at IBM.  I do what I can
> to make sure IBM's customers are happy, but I can't
> be all things to all people.  Sometimes one has to
> trust that other people will do what they are
> responsible for doing, and allow them to do their
> job.  If IBM wants to have someone monitor Usenet
> with the purpose of gathering defect information as
> a part of the problem-reporting chain and working
> those issues towards resolution, then that's what
> they will do.  If they decide that I'm the person to
> do it, then I will.  But, for now, that is NOT my job,
> and I might stop reading these messages tomorrow
> if I so decide.  I have more important things to do,
> after all.
> 
> Jeffrey S. Kobal
> IBM Corporation
> 

Sorry, Jeff, but you are right. It is NOT your job to do this, but it 
should be SOMEBODIES job. Unfortunately, YOU have stuck your neck out,
and there are a LOT of us out here who are very frustrated with IBM's 
lack of support for OS/2. We just hate to see an excellent piece of 
work go down the toilet because some idiot in the sales department 
decided that OS/2 support is just too much work. (Been there, I used 
to work for IBM, before I retired, and tried to convince management - 
in about 1982 - that they had better start paying some serious 
attention to the PC market. THEY told me to mind my own business, and 
that the PC would never amount to anything other than a fancy "toy". 
Oh well, they finally figured it out).

We do appreciate your personal efforts, and those of your team. What 
we do NOT appreciate, is getting the cold shoulder from IBM, in 
general, and any possibility of getting "inside" that shell, is just 
too tempting to pass up.

Keep up the good work, and when you get to be Vice President of sales,
remember us, and OS/2...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: kris@dgraph.com                                   04-Oct-99 03:09:18
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 GA Check mail stopped web page access

From: Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com>

I encounter delays only on pages that use style sheets

Bennie Nelson wrote:
> 
> Netscape Communicator 4.61 GA had a problem yesterday and had to be shut
down.
> I wondered how cleanly it would get out of the situation and I was quite
> pleased that it came down down without having to be killed or forcing a
> reboot.  The details:
> 
> 1) In the browser, I clicked on a link and the page (ZDNET) started to load, 
but
> quit after displaying the graphics at the top and some text;
> 2) I pressed Ctrl-Alt-T and noticed that there was only one active item
listed,
> checking the pop server for mail;
> 3) I switched to the Mail window and noted that no activity was taking
place;
> 4) I switched back to the browser window and could not get any links to
work;
> 5) When the pop server entry never completed, I tried pinging that server
and
> the results indicated it was responding;
> 6) I closed all open Netscape windows and waited until Netscape disappeared
> from the Process list in TOP before restarting it;
> 7) The browser started normally (and is still running a day later).
> 
> Details of my system:
> 
> OS/2 Warp 4 fp7
> Dell Pentium Pro 200
> 80 mb RAM
> Matrox Millenium video
> Direct connect to Internet via T3
> 
> One other thing I've noticed: the intermittent delays in displaying screens
in
> the browser is still there.  Even when all of the data is local (i.e., local
> page with local graphics) sometimes there is a lengthy pause (>10 seconds)
> before the page is displayed.  Or, sometimes the page will be displayed
without
> the background bitmap.  As soon as I press Ctrl-Alt-T, the page is
refreshed.
> The C-A-T window lists all 0s.
> 
> This version is absolutely the best browser I've ever used on any platform.  
I
> downloaded it when it was released and installed it at home and at work, and 
I
> have not had one SYS3175 caused by NETSCAPE on either machine.
> 
> Super job!
> 
> Bennie Nelson

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From: will.honea@wcom.com                               03-Oct-99 21:18:26
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Warp 4 FP12 bugs

From: Will Honea <will.honea@wcom.com>

Well, FP12 seems to have finally killed Theseus/2 completely. What
worked up thru FP11 (including some revised Theseus0.dll files) is now a
killer.

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From: ispalten@us.ibm.com                               04-Oct-99 11:15:04
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 16:43:07
Subj: Re: FP 12 and FP 42 now available

From: Irv Spalten <ispalten@us.ibm.com>

Don, the default action is to open the files and display them unless
you've edited the preferences to act as a helper for each extension type
(.1DK, .2DK, etc.). Easiest way around this it to hold the SHIFT key
when selecting the file, that causes it to be downloaded to your disk,
and you get the dialog box you want.

Irv

don mattern wrote:
> 
> Irv Spalten wrote:
> >
> > Subject FP's have been released.
> 
>     xr_m012.1dk to .hdk?   clicking on same downloads the files but the
> saving location window doesn't come up, asking us where to save the
> files.   what's going on?
>     don mattern
> >
> > Boulder did have a SPACE problem, and it appears that FP 12 ran into it.
> > We (IBM) are now going to be placing a 'header' file in the FTP
> > directory. For instance, you will see this in XR_W042
> >
> > *
> > * Initial Release of OS/2 Warp 3 FP 42
> > * 09/30/99
> > * Diskette Images XR_W042.1DK to XR_W042.JDK
> > *
> >
> > In XR_M012 you will see this :
> >
> > *
> > * Initial Release of OS/2 Warp 4 FP 12
> > * 09/30/99
> > * Diskette Images XR_M012.1DK to XR_M012.HDK
> > * 09/30/99 1:30 PM CST
> > * Diskette Image XR_M012.FDK replaced, file was corrupt
> > *
> >
> > These headers will be updated as we change any file for any reason.
> >
> > We also know people look for new directories, and grab files. The
> > initial headers will now say uploading in progress or no
> > verified/incomplete, and then replaced with an official release date.
> >
> > Irv

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From: edjaffe@phoenixsoftware.com                       04-Oct-99 09:43:25
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 16:43:07
Subj: Re: Fixpak 12 and Seamless WINOS2

From: Edward Jaffe <edjaffe@phoenixsoftware.com>

"Graham C. Norris" wrote:
> 
> I suggest you search this and other OS/2 newsgroups for information as
> this has been reported dozens of times since FP9. There is no one
> cure-all.

I DID search the archives when I first discovered the problem. I found a
post that indicated files= should be raised to 80. I tried this and it
made no difference. I never thought to go higher.

-- 
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| Mgr., Research & Development     | Fax:   (310) 338-0801          |
| Phoenix Software International   | edjaffe@phoenixsoftware.com    |
| 5200 W. Century Blvd., Suite 800 | USS24J24 at IBMMAIL            |
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     04-Oct-99 17:51:19
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Fixpak 12 and Seamless WINOS2

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 02:36:14, pNoOrStPiAgM@ibm.net (Harald Portig) 
wrote:

> However complete installations of these 
> fixpaks including their respective versions of SEAMLESS.DLL had not 
> had this problem.
> 

I have seen your symptoms in FP10, 11, and now 12. MOST of the time, 
it happens once, I kill the offending program, and then I can start it
ok. Usually, but not always, it happens only the first time I try to 
start a WinOS2 windowed session, after I boot the machine. I have also
wondered, if it has something to do with starting the session from 
WarpCenter, but I have not come to any conclusions about that.

I have tried setting FILES=200, which made it better, but there is 
still a problem.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             04-Oct-99 12:00:00
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Trap000D when clicking drive icon or using DosQueryPathInfo

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

On Sat, 02 Oct 1999 23:43:11 GMT, philbike@my-deja.com wrote:

>> CS:EIP = 08a0:0000 554a  CSACC = 009b CSLIM = 0000 fa17
Are you sure this has anything to do with the fixpack? It looks to me
like some internal structure is corrupt. Have you made boot diskettes with
chkdsk32? If not, do so. Then boot from floppy and run chkdsk /f:2. This
ought to help.


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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             04-Oct-99 12:00:29
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: TRAP 00e

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

Still no trap registers. I guess he wasn't really too interested.


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From: wwilly@one.net                                    04-Oct-99 19:13:23
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Peer Fix IP8412 problems

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <c6cdZeiVIueP-pn2-w6Qy2WSN7N2J@localhost>,
  pNoOrStPiAgM@ibm.net (Harald Portig) wrote:
        <<<snip>>>

I don't think you & scalisi get it.  The problem is
not that long lines in CONFIG.SYS cause Peer to fail.
The problem is that the long lines in CONFIG.SYS
cause a Peer utility to fail.  This utility performs
3 functions:
1. Configure Peer.
2. De-install Peer
3. Install Peer.
This utility is called PEERINST.EXE.  I remember this
was a problem with some very early editions of Peer
under WARP Connect.  But even when that APAR about
the long lines in CONFIG.SYS was being resolved &
distributed as part of Peer Fix Packs, I was not
seeing the problem solved.  I have shortened my
CONFIG.SYS lines to well under 200 characters & I am
unable to run PEERINST.

Why do I want to do this?  Because IP08412 damaged my
Peer support on my office system.  So I want to
de-install Peer, then reinstall it from scratch, then
try to reapply the Fix Pack.  Why would I want to
install again a Fix Pack that damaged my system?
Because when I installed IP08412 on my home system, I
did NOT have any of these problems so I want to try
it again just to be sure.

But I'm stuck in this catch-22 situation in which I
can't go forward & I can't go back.  I can't
de-install Peer & I can't forcibly install the
original Peer feature from the install CD because the
utility that does both of those things traps with
SYS3175.  This problem is at least 3 years old.
Check Deja News.  There's been many reports of this,
some from me, going back into the dim distant past of
the early days of WARP Connect.  This utility has
FAILED to work for about 8 Peer Fix Packs now.

And now I'm desparate to make it work.  And it WON'T,
no matter WHAT good advice I've been given here &
tried to follow.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


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From: hohmann@harddiskcafe.de                           04-Oct-99 21:53:16
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Trap000D when clicking drive icon or using DosQueryPathInfo

From: "bernd hohmann" <hohmann@harddiskcafe.de>

On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 12:00:01 -0500 (CDT), Scott E. Garfinkle wrote:

> >> CS:EIP = 08a0:0000 554a  CSACC = 009b CSLIM = 0000 fa17

> Are you sure this has anything to do with the fixpack? It 
> looks to me like some internal structure is corrupt.

scott,

is there any reference like "when trapped on cs:eip=... with fixpack
#?? then looks like ..." available ? i got various traps on warp4 +
warpserver and no idea what happens to me.

regards,
  bernd

OS/2 Warp 4.10 (de)



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From: isaacl@grizzlies.ece.ubc.ca                       04-Oct-99 19:56:05
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: FP12 + Object Rexx + Object Desktop 2.0

From: isaacl@grizzlies.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)

Graham C. Norris (norrisg@linkline.com) wrote:
: Chuck McKinnis wrote:
: > Since I do not have the problem on my Thinkpad without Object Desktop, I
: > have come to the conclusion that OD is the culprit.

: Correct. Fixkit 2 for OD 2 is supposedly under development again, and
: will fix this.

If you are willing to live without Enhanced Data files and Enhanced Folder
from OD 2.0 (and maybe a few other things), you can get OD2.0 living
happily with ORexx+WPS.

This is what I have right now and no problems yet...2 weeks and
counting...

While I really like OD 2.0, and it is a pretty good product, esp. in
comparison to the Windows crap I have, I took it off my "main" machine.
Instead of the "crashes" once every month or 2, I'm running at ZERO
crashes or lockups ... and I can't remember how long ago I took OD off,
it's been MONTHS!




Isaac

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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             04-Oct-99 15:08:22
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: TRAP 00e

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 21:56:40 +0400 (CDT), bernd hohmann wrote:

>can you tell me the minimal information to post ? 
There is no minimum. I can't predict in advance what I will need, so post
every bit of information from at least one trap screen, please.


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From: hohmann@harddiskcafe.de                           04-Oct-99 21:56:20
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: TRAP 00e

From: "bernd hohmann" <hohmann@harddiskcafe.de>

On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 12:00:58 -0500 (CDT), Scott E. Garfinkle wrote:

> Still no trap registers. I guess he wasn't really too interested.

i'm glad to throw a lot of trapscreens.

can you tell me the minimal information to post ? 

regards,
  bernd

OS/2 Warp 4.10 (de)



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From: hohmann@harddiskcafe.de                           04-Oct-99 22:41:08
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Trap000D when clicking drive icon or using DosQueryPathInfo

From: "bernd hohmann" <hohmann@harddiskcafe.de>

On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:09:07 -0500 (CDT), Scott E. Garfinkle wrote:

> On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 21:53:32 +0400 (CDT), bernd hohmann wrote:
> 
> >is there any reference like "when trapped on cs:eip=... with fixpack
> >#?? then looks like ..." available ?

> No. It's really not that simple. Sorry.

i'm ready for every small hint you can give me.

i have a trap at cs:ip. what to do next ?

thanks in advance,
  bernd

OS/2 Warp 4.10 (de)



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From: wwilly@one.net                                    04-Oct-99 20:43:04
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Fixpak 12 and Seamless WINOS2

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-5ZdkWqn7XBUC@localhost>,
  doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 02:36:14, pNoOrStPiAgM@ibm.net
(Harald Portig)
> wrote:
        <<<snip of multiple others>>>

I have installed all the WARP 4 Fix Packs (except
FP2) and I have not had any Win-OS/2 problems since
about FP4 or FP5.  And I have FILES=20.  Mind you,
I'm not running any of the file-intensive
applications y'all are running.  However, I do
occasionally bring up the 16-bit versions of Excel &
Word for Windows.  I also regularly run the 16-bit
Real Player for Windows as both a Communicator helper
& as a plugin.  All seamless.  No problems in at
least the most recent 6 Fix Packs.

I have a suspicion there is something I am doing that
avoids the problem.  I have posted this bit of advice
as a cure for a problem doing a Peer LOGON.  I have
also posted it as a cure for a problem with Matrox
video.  Perhaps it's a cure with wider impact.

1. Create a .BAT file conisting of the following:

EXIT

2, Yep.  Just one line.  Now create a Program
Reference Object to your .BAT file in the Startup
folder.

3. When you boot up, be sure you WAIT until this has
run & the system is quiesced before you actually do
anything.  Don't get happy fingers.  Keep your hands
off the keyboard & mouse until all the Startup folder
things have completed.  (Except the IBM AntiVirus
thing, which takes 5 minutes or whatever, and is just
sitting on a WAIT itself.)

4. I have found on 2 motherboards, one much faster
than the other, that I needed to play games with REXX
scripts that do Call SysSleep functions to serialize
certain processes in the Startup folder.  I found the
delays were in one pattern with the slower
motherboard, and when I got the faster one, I had to
adjust the delay intervals.  So there's a certain
amount of trial & error you will have to go through
to get it right for you.  The idea is, even though
OS/2 is supposed to be the king of multi-threading &
multi-tasking, system initialization is one time when
you shouldn't push your luck.  Serialize system
initialization.

WARNING:  This is another of my patented, copyrotten
wild-ass guesses.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             04-Oct-99 15:09:03
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Trap000D when clicking drive icon or using DosQueryPathInfo

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 21:53:32 +0400 (CDT), bernd hohmann wrote:

>is there any reference like "when trapped on cs:eip=... with fixpack
>#?? then looks like ..." available ?
No. It's really not that simple. Sorry.


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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             04-Oct-99 15:51:16
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Trap000D when clicking drive icon or using DosQueryPathInfo

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 22:41:16 +0400 (CDT), bernd hohmann wrote:

>i'm ready for every small hint you can give me.
>i have a trap at cs:ip. what to do next ?
As I said in the other thread, please post the ENTIRE trap screen, from top
to bottom. Don't skip anything, I know it's inconvenient, but there's no
escape.
	regards


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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      04-Oct-99 18:54:15
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 21:24:10
Subj: 100% cpu trying to load secure page 

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

My latest experience with cpu overload and Netscape/2 v4.61GA 
(USA/NA version) was when I tried to order the StarOffice v5.1a 
CD from Sun.  Every time I tried to load the secure page to order
this item the cpu would peg at 100% and throughput would plummet, 
just like when downloading files, but the page would never finish 
loading so I never was able to order the CD.  But as soon as I killed 
Netscape, everything was back to normal.  This was depressingly 
repeatable; I must have tried to get this page to load a half dozen times 
with exactly the same results.

I'm sorry Jeff, but there *IS* something wrong with the v4.61GA; 
I never had this kind of trouble with v4.04 or v2.02.  Looks like
I'm going to be using linux for web browsing until this gets 
fixed :-(

-John (John.Thompson@ibm.net)

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From: pNoOrStPiAgM@ibm.net                              04-Oct-99 23:46:10
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 21:24:10
Subj: Re: Fixpak 12 and Seamless WINOS2

From: pNoOrStPiAgM@ibm.net (Harald Portig)

Thanks, Billy.

Setting files=150 solved the problem for me.

Actually the "files" setting can also be set in the WIN-OS/2 settings 
in the Properties notebook of the program object, and this seems to 
work just as well.  This can also be somewhat of a boobytrap because 
the Properties notebook can override the CONFIG.SYS setting and 
contain a lower value that then causes the hang.

<COMMENTARY>
It is really not very satisfying to fix faulty behavior by such a hack
that nobody seems to understand and that probably just works through 
some kind of side effect.
<\COMMENTARY>

Harald Portig
Remove the letters NOSPAM from my address to reply.

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 03:53:03, "Billy Ko" 
<billko@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> 
> Add "files=200" to your config.sys (without quotation marks).  I actually
> think it works with anything over "files=150."
> 

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From: norrisg@linkline.com                              04-Oct-99 07:33:17
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 22:07:06
Subj: Re: Fixpak 12 and Seamless WINOS2

From: "Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com>

I suggest you search this and other OS/2 newsgroups for information as
this has been reported dozens of times since FP9. There is no one
cure-all.

Graham.

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From: rrkurtz@us.ibm.com                                04-Oct-99 10:11:08
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 22:07:06
Subj: Re: FP 12 and FP 42 now available

From: Dick Kurtz <rrkurtz@us.ibm.com>

Ref:     Append at 12:49:41 on 99/10/03 -0700 (by mattern@wco.com)

Hold down the shift key when you click on any of the disk images, that
will bring up the "Save as" dialog.

>     xr_m012.1dk to .hdk?   clicking on same downloads the files but the
> saving location window doesn't come up, asking us where to save the
> files.   what's going on?
>     don mattern

Dick Kurtz
eBusiness Development, Austin Tx.

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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             04-Oct-99 12:04:14
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: FP12 and OS2ASPI.DMD

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

Please post the following info:
  - Data and size of os2aspi.dmd
  - BASEDEV=OS2ASPI.DMD config.sys line (i.e. any parms)
  - The actual trap registers you got


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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             04-Oct-99 12:05:25
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: Warp 4 FP12 bugs

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

On Sun, 03 Oct 1999 21:18:52 GMT, Will Honea wrote:

>Well, FP12 seems to have finally killed Theseus/2 completely. What worked up
thru 
> FP11 (including some revised Theseus0.dll files) is now a killer.
Unfortuante but true.  I spoke to the author about it Friday. I *think* his
management will
agree to give him time to fix it.


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From: billko@postoffice.worldnet.att.net                04-Oct-99 21:50:15
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: Fixpak 12 and Seamless WINOS2

From: "Billy Ko" <billko@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>

On Sun, 03 Oct 1999 23:24:04 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:

:>I've had this problem ever since FP11 and hoped it would go away with
:>FP12. It didn't. Your suggestion of files=200 cured it! THANK YOU! How
:>did you know to do that??? What is the reason that files=80 (my previous
:>value) did not work after FP11?

I wish it were my idea, but I admit that I read it in one of the newsgroup. 
:)


Bill
Team OS/2

-----

OS/2 - If you want "productivity" to be more than a few
four-letter words.



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From: puzzld@my-deja.com                                05-Oct-99 02:43:28
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: Warpcenter lost

From: puzzld@my-deja.com

In article
<37EC867F.C2000C92@schiller.big.ac.at>,
  andy <andy@schiller.big.ac.at> wrote:
> All my properties on my warpcenter are lost!.
Which mean: all the icons
> on the warpcenter are gone and there is even no
access to the desktop
> with the os/2 warp button!

I lost my Warpcenter when I removed the current
prior to installing Netscape 4.61.  I used the
appropriate icon in the original Netscape folder
and after the reboot it was gone.  My config.sys
has
SET
AUTOSTART=PROGRAMS,TASKLIST,FOLDERS,WARPCENTER
and there are no error messages during bootup.


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From: stinky@ameritech.net                              05-Oct-99 03:18:08
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: TP760 ELD, ES16881$, and Trap 000D

From: stinky@ameritech.net

Hello Eric,

By any chance, do you recall where you found the fixed driver?  The drivers
from
www.esstech.com and the ddpack online site are at the same revision (1.0.3), 
though the zipfile sizes differ slightly.

Thanks,

John

In <rfxbxnhccvaravozarg.fj31700.pminews@news3.ibm.net>, "Esko Kauppinen"
<esko.kauppinen@ibm.net> writes:
>On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 00:17:02 GMT, stinky@ameritech.net wrote:
>
>>Thanks for the tip.  In fact, that's exactly what I did.  Still, I get the 
>>traps.
>>
>>What I'll probably do is re-install OS/2, and install only FP9 (and leave
>>it there), as FP10 and above seem to break the ES1688 driver.
>
>I'm using the ES1688 on my Compaq and also had the Trap while
>installing Fixpak 10 (or was it 9?).
>
>I solved the problem by installing the fixed driver but had a bit
>difficulties finding it. I first tried one driver from the recommended
>pages and it trapped too. 
>
>Now it works well in OS/2 side but for WinOS2 I have to use the
>Blaster drivers.   
>
>


jdserra at ameritech dot net

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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               04-Oct-99 19:18:00
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: windows re-install

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

RE: Re: windows re-install
BY: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

>What, exactly, do you mean by a "windows refresh"???? 

when I mean refresh,  I meant re-install.  isn't that the samething?



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From: jsjones@selectric.net                             05-Oct-99 03:52:18
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: Fixpak 12 and Seamless WINOS2

From: jsjones@selectric.net

Bless you both. I read the newsgroups all the time and don't recall that tip.
It seems to work perfectly.

I will agree, however, that it would be nice to know why it's now needed.

Irv???

In <c6cdZeiVIueP-pn2-1D2LKUZKjPeJ@localhost>, pNoOrStPiAgM@ibm.net (Harald
Portig) writes:
>Thanks, Billy.
>
>Setting files=150 solved the problem for me.
>
>Actually the "files" setting can also be set in the WIN-OS/2 settings 
>in the Properties notebook of the program object, and this seems to 
>work just as well.  This can also be somewhat of a boobytrap because 
>the Properties notebook can override the CONFIG.SYS setting and 
>contain a lower value that then causes the hang.
>
><COMMENTARY>
>It is really not very satisfying to fix faulty behavior by such a hack
>that nobody seems to understand and that probably just works through 
>some kind of side effect.
><\COMMENTARY>


selectric.net? think international business machines, instead.

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From: jsjones@selectric.net                             05-Oct-99 04:13:05
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: Warp 4 FP12 bugs

From: jsjones@selectric.net

1) Can we send bottles or bon-bons to help them decide?

2) What changes in the FPs are doing these things? For example, like others, 
Duxshelf no longer works for me, and many 16-bit PM apps like PM Word, 
Excel 2.2, and 1-2-3G won't start, though others will (Wings, PageMaker and 
Excel 3). Many of these seem related to pmmerge.dll. And, there's the need 
to increase DOSFILES to start seamless Windows.

I'm sure there are reasons behind the changes that seemingly "break" existing 
apps. We doubtless gain new capabilities in the bargain. But, I *am* curious 
if you'all know these things happen and *more important* why they happen.
Are there any workarounds out there I've missed?

In <frthfvozpbz.fj361r3.pminews@ausnews>, "Scott E. Garfinkle"
<seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com> writes:
>On Sun, 03 Oct 1999 21:18:52 GMT, Will Honea wrote:
>
>>Well, FP12 seems to have finally killed Theseus/2 completely. What worked up 
thru 
>> FP11 (including some revised Theseus0.dll files) is now a killer.
>Unfortuante but true.  I spoke to the author about it Friday. I *think* his
>management will
>agree to give him time to fix it.

selectric.net? think international business machines, instead.

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From: wwilly@one.net                                    05-Oct-99 05:44:13
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: 100% cpu trying to load secure page 

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article
<c1.2c.2SQZj2$1Su@rhino_house.attglobal.net>,
  john.thompson@attglobal.net wrote:
> My latest experience with cpu overload and
Netscape/2 v4.61GA
> (USA/NA version) was
        <<<snip>>>
> just like when downloading files, but the page
would never finish
> loading
        <<<snip>>>
> I'm going to be using linux for web browsing until
this gets
> fixed :-(

That's probably a good idea.  But if you're willing
to experiment just one more time, try this.  Instead
of surfing to that page & then just sitting waiting
for it to load, do this.  As soon as you click the
link & Communicator starts going to the site, switch
focus.  To anything except a browser window.  WARP
Meter or SIO Poor Man's Line Monitor might be
informative, but even just the Desktop might do it.
See what difference that makes.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


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From: NOSPAM_R.Ihle@S-t.De                              04-Oct-99 14:34:16
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 05:20:19
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.6 not displaying entry fields

From: NOSPAM_R.Ihle@S-t.De (Ruediger Ihle)

On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:28:50, Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com> wrote:

> Change your default font to something other than courier new
> 
> Ruediger Ihle wrote:

Thanks, you pointed me in the right direction. Communicator had
choosen to use a unsuitable default fixed font, which  was installed 
on my system.

-- 
Ruediger "Rudi" Ihle [S&T Systemtechnik GmbH, Germany, 
http://www.s-t.de]
Please remove all characters left of the "R" in my email address


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From: esko.kauppinen@ibm.net                            05-Oct-99 09:45:15
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 05:20:19
Subj: Re: TP760 ELD, ES16881$, and Trap 000D

From: "Esko Kauppinen" <esko.kauppinen@ibm.net>

On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 03:18:17 GMT, stinky@ameritech.net wrote:

>Hello Eric,
>
>By any chance, do you recall where you found the fixed driver?  The drivers
from
>www.esstech.com and the ddpack online site are at the same revision (1.0.3), 
>though the zipfile sizes differ slightly.

I cannot remember where I got it from but the driver is revision 2.00.15.
The name of the packet is os21688.zip     341207 bytes.

The date on my file is 17 Apr-99 but that is probably wrong and caused by
the date bug. The newest file is dated 23.Oct -98 as is the ES1688DD.SYS
which states ver. 2.00.15.

The readme files still talk about ver. 1.0.3.

Esko
  


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From: thorenz@hydromech.uni-hannover.de                 05-Oct-99 10:09:24
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 05:20:19
Subj: NS 4.61: Runs at raised priority ?!

From: Carsten Thorenz <thorenz@hydromech.uni-hannover.de>

Hi there!

I just found out that NS 4.61 starts itself at a raised priority
delta of 31. This is rather annoying, as NS sometimes uses a lot
of CPU and everything else comes to a crawl.

Even worse I've encountered some "kind of" deadlocks, as NS took
away all CPU from my local proxys (smartcache, junkbuster) so that
they didn't process anything while NS waited for them to process ....

Does anyone know a possibility to adjust NSs priority in the
settings?

Bye, Carsten

--
Carsten Thorenz           Institut fuer Stroemungsmechanik und
                          elektronisches Rechnen im Bauwesen
thorenz@hydromech.uni-hannover.de
http://www.hydromech.uni-hannover.de/w3-pages-thorenz/thorenz.html

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From: sbo@hehe.com                                      05-Oct-99 07:28:03
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 10:27:11
Subj: Fixpak 12 and Seamless WINOS2

From: sbo@hehe.com (Steen Bondo)

Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser wrote in a message to all:

B"WK> scripts that do Call SysSleep functions to serialize
B"WK> certain processes in the Startup folder.

And you will never again have a failed boot.!

B"WK> multi-tasking, system initialization is one time when
B"WK> you shouldn't push your luck.

True. :-)

I've read it a long time ago - still use it.!
--
Steen

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From: thorenz@hydromech.uni-hannover.de                 05-Oct-99 10:27:02
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 10:27:11
Subj: NS 4.61: "Stop Animations" also stops loading of a page

From: Carsten Thorenz <thorenz@hydromech.uni-hannover.de>

Hi!

As stated in the subject the "Stop Animations" entry in the
"View" menu also stops the loading of a page with animations
on it. 

Is there a workaround known?


Thanks, Carsten

--
Carsten Thorenz           Institut fuer Stroemungsmechanik und
                          elektronisches Rechnen im Bauwesen
thorenz@hydromech.uni-hannover.de
http://www.hydromech.uni-hannover.de/w3-pages-thorenz/thorenz.html

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From: kris@dgraph.com                                   05-Oct-99 02:40:16
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 10:27:11
Subj: Re: windows re-install

From: Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com>

I would assume that ddk files are disk images so loaddskf imagefile.ddk
a: will create the disk

Dilbert Firestorm wrote:
> 
> RE: Re: windows re-install
> BY: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>
> 
> >You shouldn't have to uninstall FP38 prior to reinstalling your WinOS2
> >support, however I suggest that *after* you reinstall WinOS2 you
> >re-install FixPak 38.  This will guarante that any Win-OS2 files updated
> >since your CD was burned will be at the FixPak 38 level along wiht the
> >rest of your system.
> 
> ok, thanx.
> 
> Thats good to know as this may be the only way I could restore winos2
> functionality.  There is a windows log file called bootlog.txt. I was told
to
> run win -b and this would produce this bootlog.txt.  Its supposed to show
what
> windows is doing when booting up. At the end of the file, it reports:
> 
> STATUS=Display failed createdc
> 
> any ideas what this mean.  Seems to suggest a display problem.  I have a
Matrox
> Millenium G200 card if that  helps any.
> 
> as for the fixpak 38 CD, I can't use it as my cd-rom drive has trouble
reading
> it.
> 
> btw, are there any instructions on how to put the warp 3 fixpak on an Iomega
> zip disk?
> 
> an RSU version of FP38 is no longer on the IBM website, its at either FP41
or
> FP42.  While an RSU version is preferable, I did find and d/led FP38 from
> Compuserve's OS/2 Forums.  However, those have a *.ddk extension, and am not
> sure what to do with them.
> 
> I guess it'd be nice if someone is willing to make a copy of  FP38 on a zip
> disk. oh well.
> 
> Should I just goto fp41 or fp42?
> 
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From: kris@dgraph.com                                   05-Oct-99 02:44:08
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 10:27:11
Subj: Re: NS 4.61: "Stop Animations" also stops loading of a page

From: Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com>

Same behaviour in Win and OS/2 versions.

Carsten Thorenz wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> As stated in the subject the "Stop Animations" entry in the
> "View" menu also stops the loading of a page with animations
> on it.
> 
> Is there a workaround known?
> 
> Thanks, Carsten
> 
> --
> Carsten Thorenz           Institut fuer Stroemungsmechanik und
>                           elektronisches Rechnen im Bauwesen
> thorenz@hydromech.uni-hannover.de
> http://www.hydromech.uni-hannover.de/w3-pages-thorenz/thorenz.html

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From: Spammers@Bite.Me                                  05-Oct-99 12:16:25
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 11:34:06
Subj: DDPak1 and BocaSoft WipeOut

From: "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." <Spammers@Bite.Me>

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After installing DDPak1, I've noticed that WipeOut no longer responds to the
mouse.  If I've just moused around without touching the keyboard, the screen
will blank, and it no longer responds to the hot corners.  Has anyone else
experienced this?  Which drivers should I restore in order to return this
functionality?

Thanks in advance!
Jaime A. Cruz, Jr.

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From: ispalten@us.ibm.com                               05-Oct-99 08:31:25
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 11:34:06
Subj: Re: DDPak1 and BocaSoft WipeOut

From: Irv Spalten <ispalten@us.ibm.com>

Jaime, it appears the WRONG mouse drivers may be applied in the DD Pak
on some machines.

Do a BLDLEVEL on your MOUSE driver (in OS2\BOOT)... Here are the 3
possible results and sizes of the files.

--------------------------------
[G:\TEMP]bldlevel mouse.sy2
Build Level Display Facility Version 5.28.348 Jan 22 1998
(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1993-1998
Signature:       @#IBM:10.030#@ Mouse Device Driver-UNI
Vendor:          IBM
Revision:        10.30
File Version:    10.30
Description:     Mouse Device Driver-UNI

[G:\TEMP]bldlevel mouse.sy3
Build Level Display Facility Version 5.28.348 Jan 22 1998
(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1993-1998
Signature:       @#IBM:10.030#@ Mouse Device Driver-SMP
Vendor:          IBM
Revision:        10.30
File Version:    10.30
Description:     Mouse Device Driver-SMP

[G:\TEMP]bldlevel mouse.sy5
Build Level Display Facility Version 5.28.348 Jan 22 1998
(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1993-1998
unknown return code 4 from FileVerGetVersionStringFromFile
File mouse.sy5 has no LAN component-style version string.
No driver EA's were found

[G:\TEMP]dir mo*

The volume label in drive G is DRIVE_G.
The Volume Serial Number is E369:6815.
Directory of G:\temp

MOUSE    SY2    19603   7-12-99   3:50p
MOUSE    SY3    19459   7-12-99   3:50p
MOUSE    SY5    23513   7-12-99   3:52p
---------
I suspect you'll match what I've called MOUSE.SY3 or MOUSE.SY5. If you
are on a NON-SMP machine, you want what I call MOUSE.SY2. You get that
from the FP in the BDD.2 directory under FIX. UNPACK MOUSE.SY_. You
should also see a backup either the BACKUP or ARCHIVE directory you
could recover from.

We'll get that corrected in the next DD FP.

Irv

"Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." wrote:
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> After installing DDPak1, I've noticed that WipeOut no longer responds to the
> mouse.  If I've just moused around without touching the keyboard, the screen
> will blank, and it no longer responds to the hot corners.  Has anyone else
> experienced this?  Which drivers should I restore in order to return this
> functionality?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> Jaime A. Cruz, Jr.
> 
> o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o
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From: ispalten@us.ibm.com                               05-Oct-99 08:11:02
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 11:34:06
Subj: Re: Warp 4 FP12 bugs

From: Irv Spalten <ispalten@us.ibm.com>

Let me answer some of these.

jsjones@selectric.net wrote:
> 
> 1) Can we send bottles or bon-bons to help them decide?

You can send, but it will not help make the decision <G>

> 2) What changes in the FPs are doing these things? For example, like others,
> Duxshelf no longer works for me, and many 16-bit PM apps like PM Word,
> Excel 2.2, and 1-2-3G won't start, though others will (Wings, PageMaker and
> Excel 3). Many of these seem related to pmmerge.dll. And, there's the need
> to increase DOSFILES to start seamless Windows.
> 
> I'm sure there are reasons behind the changes that seemingly "break"
existing
> apps. We doubtless gain new capabilities in the bargain. But, I *am* curious
> if you'all know these things happen and *more important* why they happen.
> Are there any workarounds out there I've missed?

The Theseus/2 problem was reported during Beta test. That code is
connected to certain control blocks and adresses within those control
blocks. For this FP, some had to be changed for the JIT, and that causes
at least Theseus/2 to break. We are working on the fix now, may be a
simple recompile, maybe more, I don't know.

I suspect other programs also take advantage of either undocumented
hooks or something they had been able to locate and use within the
kernel. Some are more sensitive to changes than others. This goes for
programs and device drivers I guess.

As for WinOS/2 problems. we've been getting reports of these problems
all along. What we've NOT been able to do it get a recreatable scenario.
As you can see here, some people say increase the number of files and it
works, other say no. If you have a recreatable scenario that you know
works on more than one machine, and ideally, different machines owned by
different people in different setups, let me know, it would sure help.

I got a report during the FP Beta testing of this:

"1. Printer driver level. The Windows printer driver I have on diskettes
for my Epson Stylus Color 500 is the same level as is available from the
Epson web site.

2. The problem of hung/unable to start multiple Win-OS2 sessions did
appear first in FP9 (it's why I'm at FP8 both at home and at work), but
to be fair, I did not test installing the fresh Windows printer driver
at any FP level other than FP11. But since I had been using Win-OS2
without printers installed for several days quite heavily, and the first
time I used Win-OS2 after I installed the printer driver the session
hung, I believe there is a good argument for a causal relationship
here."

I got the drivers, and they work fine for me... Like I said, before we
can fix anything, we have to be able to recreate it.

The DUX deal, I was involved with them a LONG time ago, during OS/2 2.x
timeframe, they even sent me the product. All I can say is that not all
problems when something doesn't work resides within OS/2 code.

Irv Spalten	
OS/2 FixPak Packaging and Distribution

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From: wwilly@one.net                                    05-Oct-99 17:01:29
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:10
Subj: Re: NS 4.61: "Stop Animations" also stops loading of a page

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <37F9BA61.97D6AD85@dgraph.com>,
  Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com> wrote:
        <<<snip>>>
> Carsten Thorenz wrote:
> > As stated in the subject the "Stop Animations"
entry in the
> > "View" menu also stops the loading of a page with
animations
> > on it.
        <<<snip>>>

And why would you want to stop animations?  I am
guessing it's because all that flashing & blinking
makes you dizzy.  It certainly has that effect on me.
As a temporary workaround, you could simply disable
graphics altogether.  This lets you avoid the
flashing advertising, the most annoying guilty party
for animations.  But if there's a particular image
you want to see, you can pop up the context menu on
that image & either select View Image or Show Image.
View Image navigates to a page that consists of the
image all by itself.  You can then click Back & your
page will be shown with the image in place.  Show
Image does the same thing in one step.  I'm not
exactly sure what the difference is but some popup
menus don't have the Show Image selection.

I have a sense that when you have multiple browser
windows open AND graphics enabled AND at least 2 of
those windows have animated graphics in them, THEN
you get one of those mysterious SYS3175s.  I'm
talking about the situation in which you are viewing
one of the browser instantiations, everything seems
fine, you close that browser, the next browser
instantiation becomes visible, and about 3 seconds
later, before your eyes have had a chance to focus on
the page & before you even reach for your mouse, all
the browser windows close & you've got a SYS3175 in
POPUPLOG.OS2.  That's a guess based on many
occurrences of the SYS3175 when I've got multiple
browser instantiations going with graphics enabled.
I hardly ever get SYS3175 with graphics enabled when
I limit myself to a single browser instantiation, and
I don't recall ever getting a SYS3175 when I've
disabled graphics, even when I've got 15+ browser
instantiations going.

If this were code I had written & somebody described
this problem to me, I'd check through the code that
handles graphics looking for an accidental violation
of re-entrancy.  It sounds like multi-threading in
the graphics handling has problems, and that always
makes me think about a failure to remain re-entrant.
But I didn't write this code & I've never seen it so
I'm just guessing.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


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From: wwilly@one.net                                    05-Oct-99 17:34:09
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:10
Subj: Re: DDPak1 and BocaSoft WipeOut

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <37F9FDC7.3E292A57@us.ibm.com>,
  Irv Spalten <ispalten@us.ibm.com> wrote:
        <<<snip>>>
> I suspect you'll match what I've called MOUSE.SY3
or MOUSE.SY5. If you
> are on a NON-SMP machine, you want what I call
MOUSE.SY2.
        <<<snip>>>
> "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." wrote:
        <<<snip>>>

You've really got me intrigued now, Irv.  I'm running
a single CPU (Pentium 133) & my MOUSE.SYS is this:

[F:\os2\boot]dir mouse.sys

The volume label in drive F is WARP4.
The Volume Serial Number is 3747:2A3D.
Directory of F:\os2\boot

 7-12-99  3:52p        23,513      0 a---  MOUSE.SYS
        1 file(s)        23,513 bytes used
                    119,395,840 bytes free

That indeed matches what you're calling MOUSE.SY5, as
you predicted.  However, I'm not seeing any
mouse-related problems.  Dumb luck?  Or should I
replace my mouse driver as you described?  (I don't
have that Bocasoft program.)  Also, there's packed
versions of COM.SYS in the .2 & .3 subdirectories
with those mouse drivers.  Should one of them be
installed as well?  If the .5 subdirectory is for SMP
& .2 is for non-SMP, what's .3 for?  Or have I got
this completely mixed up?

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


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From: warp4@getTOnet.dk                                 05-Oct-99 17:56:17
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Trap 000d in Testcfg.sys

From: "Allan Holm" <warp4@getTOnet.dk>

Hello.

Since the latest bios-update on my MoBo, OS/2 traps during
boot in testcfg.sys

It seams, that every version of testcfg-sys since GA is doing this.
I can choose to either REM testcfg.sys out, or backlevel my bios;
then the system works fine.

Hardware:
MoBo: Chaintech AGM2 (latest bios 9. march - 1999).
128Mb RAM
Cyrix MII 300
Matrox MGA G200 AGP

Warp4 Fp12 gives this trap:

TRAP000d	ERRCD=****	ERLIM=********
EAX=20000000	EBX=ffdf0030	ECX=00001004	EDX=00000000
ESI=fff08d74	EDI=fde86979	EBP=00001fe0	FLG=00013282
CS:EIP=0048:0000127e	CSACC=009f	CSLIM=00001733
SS:ESP=00e8:00001faa	SSACC=0093	SSLIM=00001fff
DS=03e0		DSACC=00f3	DSLIM=00000951	CR0=8001001b
ES=0900		ESACC=1093	ESLIM=000003ff	CR2=fc82f000
FS=0400		FSACC=00f3	FSLIM=000074b0
ES=0000		ESACC=****	ESLIM=********

The system detected an internal processing error at
location ##0168:fff4832e - 000e:c32e
60000,9084
048600b4

Internal revision 9.036 99/07/20

--------------------------------------------

  Allan.



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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             05-Oct-99 12:09:22
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Re: Trap 000d in Testcfg.sys

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

If the CS really is "48" then you must be executing protmode code specified
by the motherboard. Try disabling APM and see if that helps. You have some
sort of BIOS bug.


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                05-Oct-99 13:51:23
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Re: NS 4.61: "Stop Animations" also stops loading of a page

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net> said:

>And why would you want to stop animations?

It doesn;t matter.  The feature should work or not be there.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: warp4@getTOnet.dk                                 05-Oct-99 20:19:13
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Re: Trap 000d in Testcfg.sys

From: "Allan Holm" <warp4@getTOnet.dk>

On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 12:09:45 -0500 (CDT), Scott E. Garfinkle wrote:

>If the CS really is "48" then you must be executing protmode code specified
>by the motherboard. Try disabling APM and see if that helps. You have some
>sort of BIOS bug.

It is 48.

I thought it was a BIOS problem, as earlier BIOS's for this board works
fine.
I'll mail the manufacturer about this.

Thanks for your help.

  Allan.



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From: jek404@usa.net                                    05-Oct-99 20:43:10
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 19:53:18
Subj: Warpstock '99 Atlanta, GA USA

From: "Johnny Kitchens" <jek404@usa.net>

Outstanding Software and Specials At Warpstock '99 Atlanta


Warpstock '99 Atlanta Press Release
October 5, 1999
For Immediate Release

Warpstock is THE place to find the latest OS/2 Software. You'll find both
new and updated software from a large assortment of vendors, and be ready to
buy because you won't believe the "show specials" that will be available for
Warpstock attendees!

For example, Hethmon Brothers will be offering their first class Inet.Mail
Pro 1.5 for $399, a full $100 off the normal retail price! Version 1.3 will
be also available at discounted prices. Inet.Mail Pro for OS/2 is a full
featured SMTP and POP3 server for OS/2.

Sundial Systems, the Warped Jeopardy! sponsor and major OS/2 software house
("Sundial has the Answers"), will show their full product line. Look for
outstanding savings on their Mesa 2 spreadsheet; DBExpert relational
database and application builder; Relish, RelishNet, and RelishWeb, all for
time management; the Clearlook word processor; and Rover Pack desktop
enhancements. Plus, get a sneak preview of a new anti-spam product,
code-named Kiwi.

Perfect Niche Software will offer an incredible discount on SMACK!, the easy
to use label printing program. The retail price of SMACK! is $69.95, but
Warpstock attendees can license SMACK! for only $44.95, a $25.00 savings!

Serenity Systems will be supporting a pavilion where more than a dozen ISVs
will demonstrate their applications on Managed Clients supported by
Serenity's amazing WiseManager system. Serenity will also demonstrate their
new WiseTalker Database Server, and will preview their Building Automation
and Security Software, including the "security camera" application. User and
prospective channel partners can look for some "show specials" as well.

And Theta Band software, with Julien Pierre at the helm, has planned special
discounts on their WarpCharge and MMPack software for Warpstock attendees.
WarpCharge lets your web site take credit card orders online, and MMPack is
a top-of-the-line multimedia package.

You'll also see IBM's latest products including OS/2 Warp Server for
e-business, and Workspace On-Demand. IBM is giving over a dozen
presentations, and it's a perfect opportunity for you to see the future
through IBM's eyes.

JBC Software Development will offer a fantastic 30% discount on their
HomePage Publisher and GpfRexx products. HomePage Publisher is the most
powerful OS/2 web page editor on the market. GpfRexx is a visual application
generator that combines the ease of a WYSIWYG visual programming environment
with the power of Rexx.

Also, Armin Schwarz of the Warped Code Cellar has announced discounted
pricing for his powerful House/2, House/290, and UPS Monitor products. Get
all three programs at Warpstock for only $34.00, and Warp your whole house!
HOUSE/2 is designed for easy operation of X10 home control devices, and UPS
Monitor is a utility program to monitor most American Power Conversion (APC)
Uninterruptible Power Sources (UPS) for power line status.

Aviar will showcase several unique OS/2 products including KidStuff for
OS/2, KidStuff for OS/2 Plus Pack, Oz of Prevention System, and "Object Rexx
by Example". The KidStuff titles are edutainment packages for little
children, while "Object Rexx by Example" is a book which teaches Object
Rexx. The Oz of Prevention System is the world's only OS/2 native
speech-aware Computerized Maintenance Management System for Plant Engineers,
Maintenance Managers, and Operations Personnel.

Uwe Schlenter has made special arrangements to provide drastically reduced
prices on his WarpNote, BioGraph/2, and PM Checksum programs. Plus you can
see Phoenix Software's Think Tool Pro desktop database alternative and
CrossTec's NetOp Remote Control for OS/2 remote control software.

With Software and Specials like these, you know you don't want to miss the
premier OS/2 event of the century, Warpstock '99 Atlanta!

OS/2 users from around the world will meet October 16-17 in Atlanta. Visit
http://www.warpstock.org for the complete information about this very
special OS/2 event.


# # # # #
Press release by Tom Bolick (tbolick@ibm.net).


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From: rigor@mindspring.com                              05-Oct-99 17:15:13
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 19:53:18
Subj: Re: Warpstock '99 Atlanta, GA USA

From: "Sam Brown" <rigor@mindspring.com>

shit wake up nobody uses os/2 any more??

maybe you accidently search/replaced windows NT with os/2.
hahaha



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From: mainetti@visionnaire.com.br                       05-Oct-99 20:02:28
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 19:53:18
Subj: Y2K problem with OS/2 TCP/IP stacks ?

From: "Sergio Mainetti Jr." <mainetti@visionnaire.com.br>

  Hello.
  I'm working in a project to look for Y2K problems in an OS/2
TCP/IP stack.

  I'm working with OS/2 version 3.0 and up and using the TCP/IP
stack from Netmanage's PC/TCP (formerly FTP Software's PC/TCP).

  Does anyone know, or have had, any problems with dates with this
environment ?  

  Best regards,

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sergio Mainetti Jr.                                         Visionnaire
mainetti@visionnaire.com.br                     R. Fernando Amaro, 1139
http://www.visionnaire.com.br                   Curitiba, PR  80050-020
Tel/Fax: +55 (41) 262-5646                                       Brasil
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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 05-Oct-99 20:35:25
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 19:53:18
Subj: RESERVEDRIVELETTER

From: hamei@pacbell.net

from the readme.1st of fp 42 :

"The Reserve Drive Letters feature has been added at Warp FixPak level
   XR_W024 for Uni Processor versions of Warp 3.  It is not included in the
   SMP (Symmetric Multi Processors) version of Warp 3."

also,  hearty commendations and a BIG thanks to the person who wrote
the newest readme files. Very helpful and well organized, muchas gracias.
It's a pleasure to work with such well-organized material : I believe this
fixpack (42) has solved some troubles with Warp 3 SMP.  You'll never 
get rid of us this way  :-)


--
Hrad ngravvrd


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From: jeffos2@mindspring.com                            05-Oct-99 14:24:18
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 19:53:18
Subj: Re: Warp 4 FP12 bugs

From: jeffos2@mindspring.com (Jeffery Swagger)

In <37F9F8E9.DBBBA3BC@us.ibm.com>, Irv Spalten <ispalten@us.ibm.com> writes:
>Let me answer some of these.
*snip*
>The Theseus/2 problem was reported during Beta test. That code is
>connected to certain control blocks and adresses within those control
>blocks. For this FP, some had to be changed for the JIT, and that causes
>at least Theseus/2 to break. We are working on the fix now, may be a
>simple recompile, maybe more, I don't know.

As you may, or may not, know, the EWS program OS20MEMU is broken at
FP12.  Probably for the same reasons Theseus/2 is.  Are there any plans
to fix it?  If not, would IBM consider releasing the source for this and
and other apparently abandoned EWS programs?  IBM seems to be embracing
the Open Source movement, particularly in the Linux side of the house.
So, what would have been out of the question yesterday might be possible
today.


----
Jeff

   I still miss my ex, but with this laser sight...

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From: ispalten@us.ibm.com                               05-Oct-99 16:03:25
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 19:53:18
Subj: Re: DDPak1 and BocaSoft WipeOut

From: Irv Spalten <ispalten@us.ibm.com>

Bill, without giving away trade secrets, the directory structure has a
meaning.

Generally speaking, the xxx.1 is for ALL systems, and the following ones
are specific files for different systems.

The BDD FP is meant to be applied to Warp Server UNI, Warp Server
Advanced SMP, Warp 4, and WSOD1 and 2.

In this specific FP, BDD.1 is for all systems, then BDD.2 for Warp
Server UNI, BDD.3 for Warp Server SMP, BDD.4 is a special case for
OS2DASD.DMD only, and BDD.5 is for Warp 4 and both WSOD versions.

You're mouse driver came out of BDD.4, and unfortunately, this one is
really the SCROLL mouse driver, not the UNI driver it should be. Try
BLDLEVEL MOUSE.SYS and it will report none. What you should do is look
at your ARCHIVE or BACKUP, unpack the mouse driver there and use that
one. It SHOULD report back under BLDLEVEL as a UNI driver. 

The FT gets in the way here, and in some cases, this SCROLL mouse WILL
NOT INSTALL. If the EXISTING MOUSE.SYS has a VERSION STRING, unless you
state REPLACE NEWER, and the one on the FP has NONE, it will not get
replaced. 

Soooo, some people are OK as they didn't specify REPLACE NEWER, others
are in a 'strange' state that they work fine with the SCROLL mouse, and
some small percentage have problems.

If you don't have MOUSE.SYS saved away as MOUSE.SY_, you should be able
to take it out of BDD.2 (the UNI directory) and work OK, but I
personally have NOT tested this.

I'm running with the SCROLL mouse, have a KENSINGTON Expert Mouse, and
have not had problems, at least none I'm aware of.

The COM drivers are correct, one for UNI, another for SMP... Warp 4's
use UNI and is in BDD.1. Warp 3, depending on version get it out of
BDD.2 or 3.

Irv

Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:
> 
> In article <37F9FDC7.3E292A57@us.ibm.com>,
>   Irv Spalten <ispalten@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>         <<<snip>>>
> > I suspect you'll match what I've called MOUSE.SY3
> or MOUSE.SY5. If you
> > are on a NON-SMP machine, you want what I call
> MOUSE.SY2.
>         <<<snip>>>
> > "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." wrote:
>         <<<snip>>>
> 
> You've really got me intrigued now, Irv.  I'm running
> a single CPU (Pentium 133) & my MOUSE.SYS is this:
> 
> [F:\os2\boot]dir mouse.sys
> 
> The volume label in drive F is WARP4.
> The Volume Serial Number is 3747:2A3D.
> Directory of F:\os2\boot
> 
>  7-12-99  3:52p        23,513      0 a---  MOUSE.SYS
>         1 file(s)        23,513 bytes used
>                     119,395,840 bytes free
> 
> That indeed matches what you're calling MOUSE.SY5, as
> you predicted.  However, I'm not seeing any
> mouse-related problems.  Dumb luck?  Or should I
> replace my mouse driver as you described?  (I don't
> have that Bocasoft program.)  Also, there's packed
> versions of COM.SYS in the .2 & .3 subdirectories
> with those mouse drivers.  Should one of them be
> installed as well?  If the .5 subdirectory is for SMP
> & .2 is for non-SMP, what's .3 for?  Or have I got
> this completely mixed up?
> 
> WW
> Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!
> 
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From: philbike@my-deja.com                              05-Oct-99 21:52:20
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 19:53:18
Subj: Re: Trap000D when clicking drive icon or using DosQueryPathInfo

From: philbike@my-deja.com

Okay, I found the solution to my problem.  I was
using a brand new PC masterfully assembled and built
by the experts at Indelible Blue.  18 gig drive.
Using pinball.sys on Windows NT SP5 to access the
drives bigtime hosed my large HPFS partition.  I mean
really hosed this system to the point that I could
NOT BOOT EVEN FROM FLOPPIES!!

Anyway, I got the exact same Trap as this thread.
The solution is that pinball.sys can not access HPFS
partitions past 8 gigs on an IDE drive.  The other
HPFS partitions I have in the first 8 gigs are
perfect.  The only solution was to use NT's Disk
Administrator to delete the extended HPFS partition.
I had to create a bunch of FAT partitions out there
(yuk!).

Try it!  You may find that this solution works.

-Phil Hamm


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From: jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com                           05-Oct-99 17:07:00
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 21:22:26
Subj: Re: NS 4.61: Runs at raised priority ?!

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>

Carsten Thorenz wrote:

> I just found out that NS 4.61 starts itself at a raised priority
> delta of 31. This is rather annoying, as NS sometimes uses a lot
> of CPU and everything else comes to a crawl.

Wow... you're correct about the priority boost; that appears
to be a bug.  Wish we'd known about it sooner.... I'll pass
the information along to the service folks.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             05-Oct-99 17:14:26
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 21:22:26
Subj: Re: Trap000D when clicking drive icon or using DosQueryPathInfo

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 21:52:41 GMT, philbike@my-deja.com wrote:

>Using pinball.sys on Windows NT SP5 to access the
>drives bigtime hosed my large HPFS partition.  I mean
>really hosed this system to the point that I could
>NOT BOOT EVEN FROM FLOPPIES!!
>Anyway, I got the exact same Trap as this thread.

pinball.sys has a lot of bugs that we've cleaned up in the last few years. I
guess that M$ isn't
too interested in hpfs for some reason. :-(    Anyway, as (I think) I
mentioned before, the trap is caused by HPFS filesys structures that have
gotten hosed. There are numerous ways to do this, if you really try. You fond
a good one.


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From: Spammers@Bite.Me                                  05-Oct-99 22:44:29
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 21:22:26
Subj: Re: DDPak1 and BocaSoft WipeOut

From: "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." <Spammers@Bite.Me>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

I have the MOUSE.SY5 driver installed, it seems.  Thanks for the prompt
response!  I restored from my ARCHIVE directory and ended up with MOUSE.SYS
7-24-98 15:09 19,587

On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 08:31:51 -0500, Irv Spalten wrote:

>Jaime, it appears the WRONG mouse drivers may be applied in the DD Pak
>on some machines.
>
>Do a BLDLEVEL on your MOUSE driver (in OS2\BOOT)... Here are the 3
>possible results and sizes of the files.
>
>--------------------------------
>[G:\TEMP]bldlevel mouse.sy2
>Build Level Display Facility Version 5.28.348 Jan 22 1998
>(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1993-1998
>Signature:       @#IBM:10.030#@ Mouse Device Driver-UNI
>Vendor:          IBM
>Revision:        10.30
>File Version:    10.30
>Description:     Mouse Device Driver-UNI
>
>[G:\TEMP]bldlevel mouse.sy3
>Build Level Display Facility Version 5.28.348 Jan 22 1998
>(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1993-1998
>Signature:       @#IBM:10.030#@ Mouse Device Driver-SMP
>Vendor:          IBM
>Revision:        10.30
>File Version:    10.30
>Description:     Mouse Device Driver-SMP
>
>[G:\TEMP]bldlevel mouse.sy5
>Build Level Display Facility Version 5.28.348 Jan 22 1998
>(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1993-1998
>unknown return code 4 from FileVerGetVersionStringFromFile
>File mouse.sy5 has no LAN component-style version string.
>No driver EA's were found
>
>[G:\TEMP]dir mo*
>
>The volume label in drive G is DRIVE_G.
>The Volume Serial Number is E369:6815.
>Directory of G:\temp
>
>MOUSE    SY2    19603   7-12-99   3:50p
>MOUSE    SY3    19459   7-12-99   3:50p
>MOUSE    SY5    23513   7-12-99   3:52p
>---------
>I suspect you'll match what I've called MOUSE.SY3 or MOUSE.SY5. If you
>are on a NON-SMP machine, you want what I call MOUSE.SY2. You get that
>from the FP in the BDD.2 directory under FIX. UNPACK MOUSE.SY_. You
>should also see a backup either the BACKUP or ARCHIVE directory you
>could recover from.
>
>We'll get that corrected in the next DD FP.
>
>Irv
>
>"Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." wrote:
>> 
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA1
>> 
>> After installing DDPak1, I've noticed that WipeOut no longer responds to
the
>> mouse.  If I've just moused around without touching the keyboard, the
screen
>> will blank, and it no longer responds to the hot corners.  Has anyone else
>> experienced this?  Which drivers should I restore in order to return this
>> functionality?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance!
>> Jaime A. Cruz, Jr.
>> 
>> o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o
>> o                                                 o
>> o  Visit the Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club at:     o
>> o  http://www.nassauwings.org/                    o
>> o  A Charter Member of the Motorcycle Web Ring!   o
>> o                                                 o
>> o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o
>> 
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>> Charset: cp850
>> 
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>> 6CWiVc0cpFkiRY6HlC181wA=
>> =fPeY
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Jaime A. Cruz, Jr.

o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o
o                                                 o
o  Visit the Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club at:     o
o  http://www.nassauwings.org/                    o
o  A Charter Member of the Motorcycle Web Ring!   o
o                                                 o
o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o



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From: isaacl@grizzlies.ece.ubc.ca                       05-Oct-99 23:30:01
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 21:22:26
Subj: NS 4.61 + IMAP

From: isaacl@grizzlies.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)

OK, first, I'd like to thank Jeff, Mike et al. for having this working!
It's great, I don't need to boot into Win95 at work here to handle my
mail.

There's a few things which I don't know if it is Microsoft's Exchange
server or NS4.61

=> I have to unselect "Show only subscribed folders" in order to view my
sub-folders, which are normally seen under Outlook. (Even though I have
selected "Server supports folders that contain sub-folders and m..." I
can't read the rest. The text got cut off.
=> Strangely enough, the previous selection seems to have no effect on the
"Public Folders" which are normally shown in Outlook.
=> I have it checking automatically for new mail every 5 min., but it
doesn't seem to check the sub-folders. As I have a lot of subfolders, I
have to manually click on each one to see if new mail has arrived there.
:(

Otherwise..hehehe....I'm using Warp4 more and more at work. This makes me
one happy worker!


Isaac

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From: jdparker@erols.com                                05-Oct-99 20:36:02
  To: stinky@ameritech.net                              06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: TP760 ELD, ES16881$, and Trap 000D

To: stinky@ameritech.net
From: "James D Parker Jr." <jdparker@erols.com>

stinky@ameritech.net wrote:

> Hello Eric,
>
> By any chance, do you recall where you found the fixed driver?  The drivers
from
> www.esstech.com and the ddpack online site are at the same revision (1.0.3),
> though the zipfile sizes differ slightly.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> In <rfxbxnhccvaravozarg.fj31700.pminews@news3.ibm.net>, "Esko Kauppinen"
<esko.kauppinen@ibm.net> writes:
> >On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 00:17:02 GMT, stinky@ameritech.net wrote:
> >
> >>Thanks for the tip.  In fact, that's exactly what I did.  Still, I get the
> >>traps.
> >>
> >>What I'll probably do is re-install OS/2, and install only FP9 (and leave
> >>it there), as FP10 and above seem to break the ES1688 driver.
> >
> >I'm using the ES1688 on my Compaq and also had the Trap while
> >installing Fixpak 10 (or was it 9?).
> >
> >I solved the problem by installing the fixed driver but had a bit
> >difficulties finding it. I first tried one driver from the recommended
> >pages and it trapped too.
> >
> >Now it works well in OS/2 side but for WinOS2 I have to use the
> >Blaster drivers.
> >
> >
>
> jdserra at ameritech dot net

You can find the driver referred to in another post at at
ftp://ftp.quasarbbs.com/os2/drivers/audio/ess/os21688.zip

Jim


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From: wwilly@one.net                                    06-Oct-99 00:44:08
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: NS 4.61: "Stop Animations" also stops loading of a page

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <37fa3ad4$2$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>,
  lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
> Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net> said:
> >And why would you want to stop animations?
> It doesn;t matter.  The feature should work or not
be there.

While I encourage snipping, you snipped too
enthusiasitcally that time, Jim.  You should have
quoted in my next sentence, which answered my own
question.  Namely, that you want to stop animations
because they are annoying.  All that flashing &
blinking can upset your stomach.

As for the feature, yes, it should work.  I never
implied acceptance that it didn't matter if it didn't
work.  I did, however, offer some alternative ways of
accomplishing the same goal using features that do
work.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


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From: tholenAntiSpam@ifa.hawaii.edu                     06-Oct-99 02:57:26
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Warpstock '99 Atlanta, GA USA

From: tholenAntiSpam@ifa.hawaii.edu

Sam Brown writes:

> shit wake up nobody uses os/2 any more??

Why are you using question marks at the end of a declarative sentence?

By the way, somebody does use OS/2.  Looks like the readers here are
not the ones who need to wake up.

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 05-Oct-99 22:36:10
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Warpstock '99 Atlanta, GA USA

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.beta, "Sam Brown" <rigor@mindspring.com>
spake unto us, saying:

>shit wake up nobody uses os/2 any more??

Welcome to the real world, my son.  :-)

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                           Doo dee doo dee...

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From: wwilly@one.net                                    06-Oct-99 02:36:04
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: DDPak1 and BocaSoft WipeOut

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <37FA67B6.6CC592AE@us.ibm.com>,
  Irv Spalten <ispalten@us.ibm.com> wrote:

Irv, I think I said once you are relentlessly
helpful.  Once again, you go above & beyond.  I've
saved your post as some extra documentation I'll keep
for future reference.

        <<<snip>>>
> You're mouse driver came out of BDD.4,

Actually, it came from BDD.5.  I'm assuming this is a
typo, especially since you're contradicting yourself
here if you mean BDD.4.

> and unfortunately, this one is
> really the SCROLL mouse driver, not the UNI driver
it should be.

So the problem is not that Fix Tool did something
wrong, not that I did something wrong, but the wrong
driver is sitting in DDPF1 in the place where a
different driver should be.  Right?

> Try
> BLDLEVEL MOUSE.SYS and it will report none.

Correct.

> What you should do is look
> at your ARCHIVE or BACKUP, unpack the mouse driver
there and use that
> one. It SHOULD report back under BLDLEVEL as a UNI
driver.

[G:\tmp]bldlevel mouse.sys
Build Level Display Facility Version 5.28.348 Jan 22
1998
(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1993-1998
Signature:       @#IBM:10.006#@ Mouse Device
Driver-UNI
Vendor:          IBM
Revision:        10.06
File Version:    10.6
Description:     Mouse Device Driver-UNI

Looks familiar?

> The FT gets in the way here, and in some cases,
this SCROLL mouse WILL
> NOT INSTALL. If the EXISTING MOUSE.SYS has a
VERSION STRING, unless you
> state REPLACE NEWER, and the one on the FP has
NONE, it will not get
> replaced.

Well, I use SERVICE.EXE, not FSERVICE.  I don't
recall if I got prompted about replacing the driver.
If I did, I probably looked at the file dates &
thought the one in DDFP1 is about a whole year newer
so go ahead & replace the one I have.

Of course, this scroll driver does NOT have a
signature so BLDLEVEL & Fix Tool have nothing to
recognize.  So Fix Tool thinks it's a new driver,
right?  Maybe I never was prompted.  SERVICE.LOG
doesn't show whether this decision was offered.  It
just says it updated the driver.  Didn't even defer
it.  I wish I could remember.......

And even if I had thought to do BLDLEVEL commands on
the driver I already had & the candidate from the
DDFP, how would I have decided?  My system had one
with a signature, the new one had no signature.  The
new one was newer by A YEAR!  On balance, my attitude
is that IBM has a reason for putting module X in a FP
so I'm going to install it.

> Soooo, some people are OK as they didn't specify
REPLACE NEWER, others
> are in a 'strange' state that they work fine with
the SCROLL mouse, and
> some small percentage have problems.

I think I'm in the strange state.

And.........  Are you saying this driver supports the
mouse with the stupid wheel between the buttons?
This is irrelevant to me but might be welcome news to
some readers.

> If you don't have MOUSE.SYS saved away as
MOUSE.SY_, you should be able
> to take it out of BDD.2 (the UNI directory) and
work OK, but I
> personally have NOT tested this.

Wellllll...........  Like you, I'm not seeing any
problems.  But I will keep this in mind.  If I do see
trouble, I'll restore my old driver from the DDFP
Archive.

And for YOUR next trick, I expect DDFP2 to have a
MOUSE.SYS in BDD.5 that (a) is newer than July 12,
1999, (b) HAS a version number, (c) has a version
number higher than 10.006, (d) is the RIGHT driver
for regular mouse support for WARP 4 & the other
appropriate systems.  So it will just get installed
without presenting me with any decisions to make.

> Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:
> > In article <37F9FDC7.3E292A57@us.ibm.com>,
> >   Irv Spalten <ispalten@us.ibm.com> wrote:
          <<<snip>>>
> > > "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." wrote:
          <<<snip>>>

WW
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From: seg@austin.rr.com                                 06-Oct-99 03:12:09
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Trap e on 3.0 FP 40.

From: "S. Garfinkle" <seg@austin.rr.com>


Will Rose wrote:

> I'm getting trap E's at 0168:FFF491D6 - 000E:C1D6 on a pretty
> regular basis, around once a day.  It doesn't seem to tie in
> to anything particular I'm doing; my guess is that either FP 40
> blew something, or my machine's memory is going south.  Anyone
> have any ideas as to how I could locate the source of the problem?
> (Apart from swapping out memory - I don't have any spare modules at
> the moment).
>
> Thanks - Will
> cwr@crash.cts.com

I guess I missed this one. Anyway, I suspect you posted the "error at
location" -- this doesn't EVER change for any given kernel (except with
a "panic" which is where you don't get registers). Anyway,  if you still
have a problem, post an entire register screen or two.

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From: huffd@nls.net                                     06-Oct-99 03:23:06
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: What is this link doing?

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

I tried this link and it starts to upload like crazy!

http://www.software.ibm.com/os/warp/warpfm/may

What is it doing?

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From: wwilly@one.net                                    06-Oct-99 03:29:18
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Trap000D when clicking drive icon or using DosQueryPathInfo

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <frthfvozpbz.fj5f0td.pminews@ausnews>,
  "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 21:52:41 GMT,
philbike@my-deja.com wrote:
        <<<snip>>>
> pinball.sys has a lot of bugs that we've cleaned up
in the last few years.
        <<<snip>>>

So you have a PINBALL.SYS that has all these bugs
corrected?  Once you get that cat-that-ate-the-canary
grin off your face, you wouldn't happen to be able to
give that driver out, would you?

I didn't think so...........  <:-))

WW
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From: josco@ibm.net                                     05-Oct-99 22:36:20
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Y2K problem with OS/2 TCP/IP stacks ?

From: Joseph <josco@ibm.net>

I don't have a good answer.

I knew Netmanage engineers and don't recall them making or reselling a
TCP/IP stack for OS/2 -- I would have gotten one instead of buying Warp 3.0
Connect.  I assume you are using their DOS TCP/IP stack in an OS/2 DOS VM.
I would seek help on the TCP/IP stack from Netmange (not sure how they have
faired in the past few years given they were basically sellling a TCP/IP
stack and tool sfor Windows3.1).

IBM's TCP/IP stack is documented on thier Y2K site.  It's found with a
search on the main IBM web site.  If you are running WARP Connect then
there is a possibility of using a Y2K compliant OS/2 TCP/IP stack in a DOS
or Windows VM.  I have found help at Judy's Warped World.

She has links to getting OS/2 and TCP/IP running in DOS and iwndows
sessions.
http://www.gt-online.com/~bri/


"Sergio Mainetti Jr." wrote:

>   Hello.
>   I'm working in a project to look for Y2K problems in an OS/2
> TCP/IP stack.
>
>   I'm working with OS/2 version 3.0 and up and using the TCP/IP
> stack from Netmanage's PC/TCP (formerly FTP Software's PC/TCP).
>
>   Does anyone know, or have had, any problems with dates with this
> environment ?
>
>   Best regards,
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Sergio Mainetti Jr.                                         Visionnaire
> mainetti@visionnaire.com.br                     R. Fernando Amaro, 1139
> http://www.visionnaire.com.br                   Curitiba, PR  80050-020
> Tel/Fax: +55 (41) 262-5646                                       Brasil
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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                06-Oct-99 00:08:24
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:26
Subj: Re: NS 4.61: "Stop Animations" also stops loading of a page

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net> said:

>> It doesn;t matter.  The feature should work or not
>be there.

>While I encourage snipping, you snipped too
>enthusiasitcally that time, Jim.  You should have
>quoted in my next sentence, which answered my own
>question.  Namely, that you want to stop animations
>because they are annoying.  All that flashing &
>blinking can upset your stomach.

Oh I quite agree.  The snipping was aimed at the programmers.  And I suppose
you're no longer surprised how many people don't think that last sentence can
be
literally true.  If I'm not careful I can get pretty close to flicker vertigo
with some of that junk. It can really slow down my thinking if I don't catch
it.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: uliw@erdw.ethz.ch                                 06-Oct-99 15:16:22
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 14:39:27
Subj: Re: Scrolling problems with Netscape 4.4 & 4.61 on Thinkpad 770

From: Uli Wortmann <uliw@erdw.ethz.ch>

Bristow Anderson <bristow@mindspring.com> writes:


> I've had this problem since I replaced Netscape 4.04 (Navigator) with
> Netscape 4.4 (Communicator), and had hoped that Communicator 4.61 would
> fix it, but it didn't.  At say one out of six sites I visit, the content
> of the site won't scroll up and down correctly, but instead collages on
> top of itself, overwriting the previous screen's content--a refresh is
> required to clear the screen of all but the correct content.  With
> bulleted text, the problem is worse, and the bulleted parts don't even
> write to the screen.
> 
> Anybody else have this problem, on a Thinkpad or elsewhere?  (I talked
> to one desktop Aptiva user who hasn't.)  Any fixes?  Thanks.

The TP390E which uses the ibm neomagic driver, has a similar problem
with emacs.

	uli
-- 
	Uli Wortmann           Fax (Switzerland) (1) 632  1080
	Dept. of Geology       Fon                        3694
	ETH-Zuerich    http://www.erdw.ethz.ch/~bonk/bonk.html
	Visit the SPOC-team at http://www.spoc.ethz.ch

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From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com                     06-Oct-99 13:22:29
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 14:39:27
Subj: Re: Trap000D when clicking drive icon or using DosQueryPathInfo

From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney)

In <7tefmn$t7$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net> 
writes:
>In article <frthfvozpbz.fj5f0td.pminews@ausnews>,
>  "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com> wrote:
--snip--
>> pinball.sys has a lot of bugs that we've cleaned up
>in the last few years.
>        <<<snip>>>
>
>So you have a PINBALL.SYS that has all these bugs
>corrected?

Or he just left out an implicit "in OS/2's HPFS support" between
"cleaned up" and "in the last few years."

Or SomethingCompletelyDifferent(tm) (;-).


Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com

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From: ispalten@us.ibm.com                               06-Oct-99 09:09:14
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 14:39:27
Subj: Re: DDPak1 and BocaSoft WipeOut

From: Irv Spalten <ispalten@us.ibm.com>

Bill, BDD.4 should have been BDD.5, my type. Only 3 MOUSE.SY_ files are
on the FP.

You have 3 ways to install a FP today, and some, if you KNOW what you're
doing, you control the REPLACE_NEWER setting, others you'll either not
know what it is set for (you never look) or pick the option that may not
be the best. Specifically, RSU defaults to the REPLACE_NEWER off. If you
used FSERVICE and actually started FPINST WARP4, look at RESPONSE.WP4,
you'll see documentation on this setting and it is not specified, i.e.
OFF. SERVICE will prompt you in any case.

There are some questions as to how the mouse driver could get on a
system without a version string? Any of many different ways, and I've
not look at the initial shipped Warp system to see if that mouse driver
had one? Part of the mystery we still need to solve.

Your mouse.sys is dated July '98 (some systems here have that date, like
you, but I don't recall the exact day, 23 maybe?), and the one in BDD.2
is what I beleive is needed (and will be on the next XR_D002). This is
the data on that one:

[G:\TEMP]bldlevel mouse.sy2
Build Level Display Facility Version 5.28.348 Jan 22 1998
(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1993-1998
Signature:       @#IBM:10.030#@ Mouse Device Driver-UNI
Vendor:          IBM
Revision:        10.30
File Version:    10.30
Description:     Mouse Device Driver-UNI

I've put the above on my system and will use it. I wouldn't ask anyone
else to, we did NOT test this driver with Warp 4 (but did test the one
without the version string in BDD.5 and had no problems?). If you're
conservative, use what you have, adventurous, try the one in BDD.2, but
save what you have to go back if needed.

The driver without a string showing from BLDLEVEL (23513   7-12-99  
3:52p) was only for 2 specific scroll mice (forgot the names, but the
sameone as on the DD-PAK On-Line web page).

Irv

Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:
> 
> In article <37FA67B6.6CC592AE@us.ibm.com>,
>   Irv Spalten <ispalten@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> Irv, I think I said once you are relentlessly
> helpful.  Once again, you go above & beyond.  I've
> saved your post as some extra documentation I'll keep
> for future reference.
> 
>         <<<snip>>>
> > You're mouse driver came out of BDD.4,
> 
> Actually, it came from BDD.5.  I'm assuming this is a
> typo, especially since you're contradicting yourself
> here if you mean BDD.4.
> 
> > and unfortunately, this one is
> > really the SCROLL mouse driver, not the UNI driver
> it should be.
> 
> So the problem is not that Fix Tool did something
> wrong, not that I did something wrong, but the wrong
> driver is sitting in DDPF1 in the place where a
> different driver should be.  Right?
> 
> > Try
> > BLDLEVEL MOUSE.SYS and it will report none.
> 
> Correct.
> 
> > What you should do is look
> > at your ARCHIVE or BACKUP, unpack the mouse driver
> there and use that
> > one. It SHOULD report back under BLDLEVEL as a UNI
> driver.
> 
> [G:\tmp]bldlevel mouse.sys
> Build Level Display Facility Version 5.28.348 Jan 22
> 1998
> (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1993-1998
> Signature:       @#IBM:10.006#@ Mouse Device
> Driver-UNI
> Vendor:          IBM
> Revision:        10.06
> File Version:    10.6
> Description:     Mouse Device Driver-UNI
> 
> Looks familiar?
> 
> > The FT gets in the way here, and in some cases,
> this SCROLL mouse WILL
> > NOT INSTALL. If the EXISTING MOUSE.SYS has a
> VERSION STRING, unless you
> > state REPLACE NEWER, and the one on the FP has
> NONE, it will not get
> > replaced.
> 
> Well, I use SERVICE.EXE, not FSERVICE.  I don't
> recall if I got prompted about replacing the driver.
> If I did, I probably looked at the file dates &
> thought the one in DDFP1 is about a whole year newer
> so go ahead & replace the one I have.
> 
> Of course, this scroll driver does NOT have a
> signature so BLDLEVEL & Fix Tool have nothing to
> recognize.  So Fix Tool thinks it's a new driver,
> right?  Maybe I never was prompted.  SERVICE.LOG
> doesn't show whether this decision was offered.  It
> just says it updated the driver.  Didn't even defer
> it.  I wish I could remember.......
> 
> And even if I had thought to do BLDLEVEL commands on
> the driver I already had & the candidate from the
> DDFP, how would I have decided?  My system had one
> with a signature, the new one had no signature.  The
> new one was newer by A YEAR!  On balance, my attitude
> is that IBM has a reason for putting module X in a FP
> so I'm going to install it.
> 
> > Soooo, some people are OK as they didn't specify
> REPLACE NEWER, others
> > are in a 'strange' state that they work fine with
> the SCROLL mouse, and
> > some small percentage have problems.
> 
> I think I'm in the strange state.
> 
> And.........  Are you saying this driver supports the
> mouse with the stupid wheel between the buttons?
> This is irrelevant to me but might be welcome news to
> some readers.
> 
> > If you don't have MOUSE.SYS saved away as
> MOUSE.SY_, you should be able
> > to take it out of BDD.2 (the UNI directory) and
> work OK, but I
> > personally have NOT tested this.
> 
> Wellllll...........  Like you, I'm not seeing any
> problems.  But I will keep this in mind.  If I do see
> trouble, I'll restore my old driver from the DDFP
> Archive.
> 
> And for YOUR next trick, I expect DDFP2 to have a
> MOUSE.SYS in BDD.5 that (a) is newer than July 12,
> 1999, (b) HAS a version number, (c) has a version
> number higher than 10.006, (d) is the RIGHT driver
> for regular mouse support for WARP 4 & the other
> appropriate systems.  So it will just get installed
> without presenting me with any decisions to make.
> 
> > Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:
> > > In article <37F9FDC7.3E292A57@us.ibm.com>,
> > >   Irv Spalten <ispalten@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>           <<<snip>>>
> > > > "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." wrote:
>           <<<snip>>>
> 
> WW
> Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

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From: ispalten@us.ibm.com                               06-Oct-99 09:10:12
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 14:39:27
Subj: Re: DDPak1 and BocaSoft WipeOut

From: Irv Spalten <ispalten@us.ibm.com>

Jaime, more important question is "Did this fix the problem you saw?"

Irv

"Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." wrote:
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> I have the MOUSE.SY5 driver installed, it seems.  Thanks for the prompt
> response!  I restored from my ARCHIVE directory and ended up with MOUSE.SYS
> 7-24-98 15:09 19,587
> 
> On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 08:31:51 -0500, Irv Spalten wrote:
> 
> >Jaime, it appears the WRONG mouse drivers may be applied in the DD Pak
> >on some machines.
> >
> >Do a BLDLEVEL on your MOUSE driver (in OS2\BOOT)... Here are the 3
> >possible results and sizes of the files.
> >
> >--------------------------------
> >[G:\TEMP]bldlevel mouse.sy2
> >Build Level Display Facility Version 5.28.348 Jan 22 1998
> >(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1993-1998
> >Signature:       @#IBM:10.030#@ Mouse Device Driver-UNI
> >Vendor:          IBM
> >Revision:        10.30
> >File Version:    10.30
> >Description:     Mouse Device Driver-UNI
> >
> >[G:\TEMP]bldlevel mouse.sy3
> >Build Level Display Facility Version 5.28.348 Jan 22 1998
> >(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1993-1998
> >Signature:       @#IBM:10.030#@ Mouse Device Driver-SMP
> >Vendor:          IBM
> >Revision:        10.30
> >File Version:    10.30
> >Description:     Mouse Device Driver-SMP
> >
> >[G:\TEMP]bldlevel mouse.sy5
> >Build Level Display Facility Version 5.28.348 Jan 22 1998
> >(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1993-1998
> >unknown return code 4 from FileVerGetVersionStringFromFile
> >File mouse.sy5 has no LAN component-style version string.
> >No driver EA's were found
> >
> >[G:\TEMP]dir mo*
> >
> >The volume label in drive G is DRIVE_G.
> >The Volume Serial Number is E369:6815.
> >Directory of G:\temp
> >
> >MOUSE    SY2    19603   7-12-99   3:50p
> >MOUSE    SY3    19459   7-12-99   3:50p
> >MOUSE    SY5    23513   7-12-99   3:52p
> >---------
> >I suspect you'll match what I've called MOUSE.SY3 or MOUSE.SY5. If you
> >are on a NON-SMP machine, you want what I call MOUSE.SY2. You get that
> >from the FP in the BDD.2 directory under FIX. UNPACK MOUSE.SY_. You
> >should also see a backup either the BACKUP or ARCHIVE directory you
> >could recover from.
> >
> >We'll get that corrected in the next DD FP.
> >
> >Irv
> >
> >"Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." wrote:
> >>
> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >> Hash: SHA1
> >>
> >> After installing DDPak1, I've noticed that WipeOut no longer responds to
the
> >> mouse.  If I've just moused around without touching the keyboard, the
screen
> >> will blank, and it no longer responds to the hot corners.  Has anyone
else
> >> experienced this?  Which drivers should I restore in order to return this
> >> functionality?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance!
> >> Jaime A. Cruz, Jr.
> >>
> >> o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o
> >> o                                                 o
> >> o  Visit the Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club at:     o
> >> o  http://www.nassauwings.org/                    o
> >> o  A Charter Member of the Motorcycle Web Ring!   o
> >> o                                                 o
> >> o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o
> >>
> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> >> Version: PGPfreeware 5.0 OS/2 for non-commercial use
> >> Comment: PGP 5.0 for OS/2
> >> Charset: cp850
> >>
> >> wj8DBQE3+d4hgvzYfxgMc34RAmu8AKCi9Yw5D3wZMDPcxGTCFpe78WqbdwCfcoEl
> >> 6CWiVc0cpFkiRY6HlC181wA=
> >> =fPeY
> >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
> 
> Jaime A. Cruz, Jr.
> 
> o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o
> o                                                 o
> o  Visit the Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club at:     o
> o  http://www.nassauwings.org/                    o
> o  A Charter Member of the Motorcycle Web Ring!   o
> o                                                 o
> o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: PGPfreeware 5.0 OS/2 for non-commercial use
> Comment: PGP 5.0 for OS/2
> Charset: cp850
> 
> wj8DBQE3+nFXgvzYfxgMc34RArNbAKCOp50ZTkfOSXwIc4qPp6IsbBkqtACeNalp
> PKonF35jzGjFNeWFI461TdQ=
> =YU3l
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             06-Oct-99 09:20:29
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 14:39:27
Subj: Re: Trap000D when clicking drive icon or using DosQueryPathInfo

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

On 6 Oct 1999 13:22:58 GMT, Frank McKenney wrote:

>>So you have a PINBALL.SYS that has all these bugs
>>corrected?
>Or he just left out an implicit "in OS/2's HPFS support" between
>"cleaned up" and "in the last few years."
Yes, correct. pinball.sys is (I assume) based on the same HPFS code with
which
we were left after the (in)famous split.  We have been making fixes. I doubt
that they have.


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From: andy@schiller.big.ac.at                           06-Oct-99 16:35:16
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 14:39:27
Subj: Re: Installing OS/2 Warp 4

From: andy <andy@schiller.big.ac.at>


andy schrieb:

> I got one big problem with installing os/2 warp Client 4.
> I did the disk updates (ide updates), but every time during the
> installation the network installation program produces an error.
>     -> no network. Does anyone know what to do?
>
> The strange thing is, that it doesn't happen all the time but now very
> often
>
> greetings
>         Andreas

It's an error with the MMPMINI.DLL. Can anybody help me

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                06-Oct-99 11:56:24
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 14:39:27
Subj: Re: NS 4.61: "Stop Animations" also stops loading of a page

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

Carsten Thorenz <thorenz@hydromech.uni-hannover.de> said:

>I tend to open lots of Navigator windows and browse them
>in parallel. And if there are some pages with lots of animations
>on them the CPU-load pops to 100% easily.

Oh, you don't need multiple windows.  Just go to this one site!

http://www.wanderers.com/wanderer/oldies.html

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: cvopicka@erols.com                                06-Oct-99 12:49:28
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 16:31:22
Subj: Re: Warpstock '99 Atlanta, GA USA

From: Ron Vopicka <cvopicka@erols.com>

> > 
> > shit wake up nobody uses os/2 any more??
> > 
> > maybe you accidently search/replaced windows NT with os/2.
> > hahaha
> > 
> 
> Wake up yourself, and go back to the Windows news groups, where you 
> belong.

Seconded!

Who are all these "nobodies" talking in this news group (with one
exception)?

Ron

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From: ddudley@inspired-designs.net                      06-Oct-99 11:16:16
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 16:31:22
Subj: Traps with OS/2 Warp Server 4 eBusiness

From: David Dudley <ddudley@inspired-designs.net>

I am having traps occuring with my warp server for eBiz installation.
It resets itself about once, or twice a day.  I currently have the thing
set to do a 'crash dump' to a file, so that the unit will automatically
reset itself, and resume operations.  It goes without saying that I want
to get this fixed.  Is there a way, from a trap file, to generate the
register dump information?  Or do I need to rem the 'trapdump' line when
I come in to work, just so that if it traps, I can get the information?

Any ideas?

Thanks-
<ddudley@inspired-designs.net>
<webmaster@inspired-designs.net>


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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     06-Oct-99 16:37:09
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:16
Subj: Re: Warpstock '99 Atlanta, GA USA

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:15:26, "Sam Brown" <rigor@mindspring.com> wrote:

> 
> shit wake up nobody uses os/2 any more??
> 
> maybe you accidently search/replaced windows NT with os/2.
> hahaha
> 

Wake up yourself, and go back to the Windows news groups, where you 
belong.

OS/2 is alive, well, AND, it still outperforms any Windows version.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: higginsr@bellsouth.net                            06-Oct-99 14:29:06
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:16
Subj: Re: Warpstock '99 Atlanta, GA USA

From: RickH <higginsr@bellsouth.net>

That would be us nobodies over here in ATL.FORSALE Which brings another
question to mind. Why post that in a forsale group anyways?


Ron Vopicka wrote:

> > >
> > > shit wake up nobody uses os/2 any more??
> > >
> > > maybe you accidently search/replaced windows NT with os/2.
> > > hahaha
> > >
> >
> > Wake up yourself, and go back to the Windows news groups, where you
> > belong.
>
> Seconded!
>
> Who are all these "nobodies" talking in this news group (with one
> exception)?
>
> Ron

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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             06-Oct-99 14:18:02
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: Re: Traps with OS/2 Warp Server 4 eBusiness

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 13:44:12 -0500, David Dudley wrote:

Next time, post the internal revision, too (it's near the trap screen). 
Here's what to do: Go to System folder->Problem Detemination Tools folder->PM
Dump Facility. Use this utility to load your dump. Type ".lmo"  (for
cognoscenti, the briefer ".lmop" suffices here). Look for the CS value
somewhere in the SEL column. We can see from the SS value that this is a
uniprocessor kernel and you're processing an external interrupt. It's
probably something funky on your LAN.
	-scott

>TRAP 0003       ERRCD=0000  ERACC=****  ERLIM=********
>EAX=00004444  EBX=ffed0f8a  ECX=ffed1000  EDX=00000000
>ESI=000010a0  EDI=fdb90fe2  EBP=0000ff0c  FLG=00003246
>CS:EIP=0650:000012f9  CSACC=009f  CSLIM=000069dd
>SS:ESP=00e8:0000ff08  SSACC=0097  SSLIM=0000dfff
>DS=0648  DSACC=00f3  DSLIM=00002e17  CR0=8001001b
>ES=0648  ESACC=00f3  ESLIM=00002e17  CR2=ffeb5000
>FS=0000  FSACC=****  FSLIM=********



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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             06-Oct-99 11:52:25
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: Re: Traps with OS/2 Warp Server 4 eBusiness

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 11:16:32 -0500, David Dudley wrote:

>  Is there a way, from a trap file, to generate the register dump
information? 
Yes, use a "strings" utility (see hobbes.nmsu.edu) or even perhaps e.exe --
an ascii version of the trap screen is stored near the beginning of the dump.
If you're using JFS, you ought to download the JFSFIX1 package from our
webiste.


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From: goffena@raleigh.ibm.com                           06-Oct-99 16:29:04
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: Re: FixPack 12 and Netscape

From: "Jim Goffena" <goffena@raleigh.ibm.com>

On 06 Oct 1999 10:54:50 PDT, Steve Richards wrote:

:>

I haven't seen that problem, but on my TP after FP12 I can no longer run java
inside any version of netscape.  good ole trapd

regards,

Jim


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From: wwilly@one.net                                    06-Oct-99 17:24:22
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: Re: DDPak1 and BocaSoft WipeOut

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <37FB5819.D5D4DE8F@us.ibm.com>,
  Irv Spalten <ispalten@us.ibm.com> wrote:
        <<<large snippage>>>

OK.  I've got this now:

[G:\tmp]dir mouse*

 7-12-99  3:52p        23,513     31 a---  MOUSE.SY5
 7-12-99  3:50p        19,603     31 a---  MOUSE.SY2
 7-24-98  3:09p        19,587     32 a---  MOUSE.FP11
        3 file(s)        62,703 bytes used

.SY5 is unpacked from BDD.5 in DDFP1.  This is the
one that you're saying we SHOULD NOT have gotten but
did, and happens not to be causing me any problems.

.SY2 is unpacked from BDD.2 in DDFP1.  This is the
one that you're saying we SHOULD have gooten but
didn't.  You said you were putting it on your system.
Hey.  Sounds like a dare to me. <:-))  I'm going to
do the same, reboot & run a while, see what happens.
And I did verify with BLDLEVEL that its internal
version stamp is indeed higher than the driver I used
to have, which was.........

.FP11 is unpacked from my DDFP Archive directory.
This is the one I had after installing FP11.  Just
being historical, since FP11 didn't actually update
the driver, of course.  But my history was FP11, then
DDFP1, then FP12.

So I've got all 3 mouse drivers sitting in my %TMP%
directory ready to be installed at a moment's notice
should trouble arise.

Now to see how it works............

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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From: steve_antispam@aducredit.com                      06-Oct-99 10:54:25
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: FixPack 12 and Netscape

From: "Steve Richards" <steve_antispam@aducredit.com>

Has anyone noticed a problem with NS461 after installing FP12 ?

I can't put my finger on the exact problem just yet but the symptoms that are
popping up are...

-End Netscape and it stays active hidden from the task list. It has to be
Killed with a process killer.

-A page will stall and then PM windows will become visible in that page.

I have to kill NS to get around these problems.
It then functions normally for a while.

I noticed this after installing FP 12.  It seemed OK with FP11.

Any thoughts on this or anyone else notice this ?



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From: ddudley@inspired-designs.net                      06-Oct-99 15:05:13
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: Re: Traps with OS/2 Warp Server 4 eBusiness

From: David Dudley <ddudley@inspired-designs.net>


"Scott E. Garfinkle" wrote:

> On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 13:44:12 -0500, David Dudley wrote:
>
> Next time, post the internal revision, too (it's near the trap screen).
> Here's what to do: Go to System folder->Problem Detemination Tools
folder->PM
> Dump Facility. Use this utility to load your dump. Type ".lmo"  (for
> cognoscenti, the briefer ".lmop" suffices here). Look for the CS value
> somewhere in the SEL column. We can see from the SS value that this is a
> uniprocessor kernel and you're processing an external interrupt. It's
> probably something funky on your LAN.
>         -scott
>
> >TRAP 0003       ERRCD=0000  ERACC=****  ERLIM=********
> >EAX=00004444  EBX=ffed0f8a  ECX=ffed1000  EDX=00000000
> >ESI=000010a0  EDI=fdb90fe2  EBP=0000ff0c  FLG=00003246
> >CS:EIP=0650:000012f9  CSACC=009f  CSLIM=000069dd
> >SS:ESP=00e8:0000ff08  SSACC=0097  SSLIM=0000dfff
> >DS=0648  DSACC=00f3  DSLIM=00002e17  CR0=8001001b
> >ES=0648  ESACC=00f3  ESLIM=00002e17  CR2=ffeb5000
> >FS=0000  FSACC=****  FSLIM=********

Well, I'm gonna ride this horse as far as it'l carry me  ;-)

Here is the output from the '.lmo' command, in all it's glory.
As far as LAN, the previous problem I had with this system (that was the JFS
bug), ended up with the JFS fix, and then the tech told me something about a
TCPSOCKETS error, that he couldn't help me with.....

here it comes:
------------------------------------------

IBM OS/2 System Dump Formatter for retail uni kernel
Formatter is --> Internal revision 14.039F_UNI
Dump file is --> Internal revision 14.039F_UNI

Symbol (c:\os2\pdpsi\pmdf\warp45_u\os2krnlr.sym) linked

Current slot number: 0001

 Slot  Pid  Ppid Csid Ord  Sta Pri  pTSD     pPTDA    pTCB     Disp SG Name
*0001# 0001 0000 0000 0001 blk 0200 ffdf2000 ffdf38a4 ffdf35b0 0d18 00
IBMATAPI

eax=00008e89 ebx=ffdf35b0 ecx=00000028 edx=ffdd4747 esi=ffdf3614 edi=fefff5bc
eip=00008384 esp=0000d000 ebp=00000000 iopl=3 -- -- -- nv up di ng nz ac pe cy
cs=2a48 ss=0030 ds=0160 es=0160 fs=0000 gs=0000  cr2=00000000  cr3=001f8000
2a48:00008384 e96602         jmp       85ed
#
Loading version data ... please wait
Loading structure info for Warp Server 4.5 UNI ... please wait.
....Structure definition file (warp45_u\kernel.sdf) loaded.
....Structure definition file (warp45_u\shell.sdf) loaded.
Done.

# .lmo

hmte=007e pmte=%ffed72fb mflags=0002b180 mvdm.dll

hmte=007d pmte=%ffed75be mflags=0002b180 kee.dld

hmte=0007 pmte=%ffed617c mflags=0000b980 doscalls
obj   vsize    vbase    flags   ipagemap cpagemap hob  sel
0001 000079e7 ffdd4000 00005063 00000000 00000000 0009 0a00 rw- shr prel alias
conf
0002 0000769d ffddc000 00005065 00000000 00000000 000a 1200 r-x shr prel alias
conf
0003 00010000 ffde4000 0000d0a3 00000000 00000000 000b 0030 rw- shr inv alias
conf iopl
0004 00002a80 ffdf4000 0000d023 00000000 00000000 0000 0128 rw- shr alias conf
iopl
0005 000056fa ffdf7000 00005023 00000000 00000000 000d 0130 rw- shr alias conf
0006 00002833 ffeca000 00005035 00000000 00000000 0011 0138 r-x disc shr alias
conf
0007 000001ac 00110000 00002213 00000000 00000000 0000 0160 rw- disc big
0008 000027c8 00120000 00002013 00000000 00000000 0000 0160 rw- disc big
0009 000108d0 ffed1000 00006033 00000000 00000000 0014 0160 rw- disc shr big
conf

000a 0000eafa ffee2000 00001035 00000000 00000000 0015 0140 r-x disc shr alias
000b 0000d0c8 ffef1000 00001035 00000000 00000000 0016 0148 r-x disc shr alias
000c 0000d1d0 ffeff000 00001035 00000000 00000000 0017 0150 r-x disc shr alias
000d 0000c5dc fff0d000 00001035 00000000 00000000 0018 0158 r-x disc shr alias
000e 000a5c93 fff1a000 00002035 00000000 00000000 0019 0168 r-x disc shr big

hmte=00c0 pmte=%fdbacfac mflags=0008e1c9 c:\ibmatapi.flt
seg  sect psiz vsiz hob  sel  flags
0001 0013 0b5a 2e18 0000 0648 8d49 data iter prel rel
0002 00cc 69de 69de 0000 0650 8d60 code shr prel rel

hmte=00bd pmte=%fdba55bc mflags=0008e1c9 c:\xdfloppy.flt
seg  sect psiz vsiz hob  sel  flags
0001 0012 08a9 2254 0000 0640 8d49 data iter prel rel
0002 009e 26e8 26e8 0000 0638 8d60 code shr prel rel
0003 0313 099a 099a 0000 0628 8d60 code shr prel rel

hmte=00b4 pmte=%fdba4f50 mflags=0008e1c9 c:\ibm1s506.add
seg  sect psiz vsiz hob  sel  flags
0001 0014 118f 42e2 0000 0610 8d49 data iter prel rel
0002 0132 c0f0 c0f0 0000 0608 8d60 code shr prel rel

hmte=00b2 pmte=%fdba3f3c mflags=0008e1c9 c:\ibm1flpy.add
seg  sect psiz vsiz hob  sel  flags
0001 0013 08b5 1434 0000 05e8 8d49 data iter prel rel
0002 00a0 7f90 7f90 0000 05f0 8d60 code shr prel rel

hmte=00b0 pmte=%fdba3f88 mflags=0008e1c9 c:\chkdsk.sys
seg  sect psiz vsiz hob  sel  flags
0001 007b 001b 0032 0000 05e0 8c41 data prel
0002 0089 01f0 01f0 0000 05d8 8d60 code shr prel rel

hmte=00a8 pmte=%fdb9dee4 mflags=0008e1c9 c:\print01.sys
seg  sect psiz vsiz hob  sel  flags
0001 0013 0569 39ea 0000 0590 8d49 data iter prel rel
0002 006b 1582 1582 0000 0598 8d60 code shr prel rel
0003 01c5 14dc 14dc 0000 05a0 8d60 code shr prel rel

hmte=00a7 pmte=%fdb9df34 mflags=0008e1ca c:\timer0.sys
seg  sect psiz vsiz hob  sel  flags
0001 007b 005a 0330 0000 0580 8d41 data prel rel
0002 00ad 087e 0880 0000 0588 8d60 code shr prel rel

hmte=00a5 pmte=%fdb9f78c mflags=0008e1c9 c:\ibmkbd.sys
seg  sect psiz vsiz hob  sel  flags
0001 0001 0292 0542 0000 0578 8d49 data iter prel rel
0002 0003 1b2c 1b2e 0000 0570 8d60 code shr prel rel

hmte=00a2 pmte=%fdb9f7dc mflags=0008e1c9 c:\isapnp.snp
seg  sect psiz vsiz hob  sel  flags
0001 0011 0227 0228 0000 0550 8d41 data prel rel
0002 0035 4ffc 4ffc 0000 0558 8d60 code shr prel rel

hmte=00a1 pmte=%fdb9ceb4 mflags=0008e1c9 c:\kbdbase.sys
seg  sect psiz vsiz hob  sel  flags
0001 0013 057a 1800 0000 0520 8c49 data iter prel
0002 006b 3945 3945 0000 0528 8d60 code shr prel rel
0003 0402 19ef 19f0 0000 0530 8d60 code shr prel rel
0004 05a3 0743 0744 0000 0538 8d60 code shr prel rel

hmte=00a0 pmte=%fdb9cf20 mflags=0008e1c9 c:\screen01.sys
seg  sect psiz vsiz hob  sel  flags
0001 0001 0321 0326 0000 0510 8d41 data prel rel
0002 0003 2835 2835 0000 0518 8d60 code shr prel rel

hmte=009f pmte=%fdb9cfc0 mflags=0008e1c9 c:\clock01.sys
seg  sect psiz vsiz hob  sel  flags
0001 0089 0066 0094 0000 04f8 8c49 data iter prel
0002 00bc 0aa6 0aa6 0000 0500 8d60 code shr prel rel
0003 0624 04d6 04d6 0000 0508 8d60 code shr prel rel

hmte=009d pmte=%fdb9bfd4 mflags=0008e1c9 c:\resource.sys
seg  sect psiz vsiz hob  sel  flags
0001 0020 3e11 3f1c 0000 04d0 8d49 data iter prel rel
0002 0415 24e3 24e3 0000 04d8 8d60 code shr prel rel
0003 0667 71c2 71c2 0000 04e0 8d60 code shr prel rel
0004 0000 0000 ffff 0000 04e8 8c41 data prel

hmte=0081 pmte=%fdb98dcc mflags=0028a1c9 a:\mini_fsd.fsd
seg  sect psiz vsiz hob  sel  flags
0001 0003 5710 5710 0080 03e0 8d20 code shr rel
0002 002f 4b21 4b24 0082 03e8 8d20 code shr rel
0003 0055 07fe 0800 0083 03f0 8d20 code shr rel
0004 005a 0148 014c 0084 03f8 8c20 code shr
0005 005b 0b8e 1141 0085 0400 8d01 data rel
0006 0061 006c 006c 0086 0408 8d01 data rel
0007 0062 03bc 03bd 0087 0410 8c01 data
0008 0000 0000 0140 0088 0418 8c01 data
#
------------------------------------------

OH! for a solution to this problem!


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From: ddudley@inspired-designs.net                      06-Oct-99 13:16:07
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: Re: Traps with OS/2 Warp Server 4 eBusiness

From: David Dudley <ddudley@inspired-designs.net>


"Scott E. Garfinkle" wrote:

> On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 11:16:32 -0500, David Dudley wrote:
>
> If you're using JFS, you ought to download the JFSFIX1 package from our
> webiste.

Already have the JFS Fix installed, thanks.....  This particular machine,
though,
*doesn* have a JFS drive installed on it (yet!).  This is the primary E-mail
server
for my ISP, and resets are, although *very* agrivating, they are not fatal.

Have noticed another problem, also.  When I reset the system, from a cold
boot,
when I bring up NS4.04 (or 2.02... or 4.61... doens't matter which), the FIRST 
time
after a reset, I cannot get the DNS to operate.  Its on another machine, and
although I can ping it (and resolve names from it using HOST, and NSLOOKUP,
and
such..., AGAIN, not the FIRST attempt on any particular program), after the
FIRST
attempt at using that program, any following attempt to use that program works
successfully. (With ping, I can ping any IP address, at any time.  Only
problem
seems to be the first attempt at resolving a host name).  From any non-WS4eB
system, no problem, any time.  STRANGE problem, but I can live with it, once I 
get
the reset thing resolved.

Will look in the trap dump that just occured an hour ago, and post the screen
-
thanks!


David

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From: Spammers@Bite.Me                                  06-Oct-99 20:05:01
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: Re: DDPak1 and BocaSoft WipeOut

From: "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." <Spammers@Bite.Me>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Whoops!  Yes, it did!  Thanks!

On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 09:10:25 -0500, Irv Spalten wrote:

>Jaime, more important question is "Did this fix the problem you saw?"
>
>Irv
>
>"Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." wrote:
>> 
>> I have the MOUSE.SY5 driver installed, it seems.  Thanks for the prompt
>> response!  I restored from my ARCHIVE directory and ended up with MOUSE.SYS
>> 7-24-98 15:09 19,587
>> 
>> On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 08:31:51 -0500, Irv Spalten wrote:
>> 
>> >Jaime, it appears the WRONG mouse drivers may be applied in the DD Pak
>> >on some machines.
>> >
>> >Do a BLDLEVEL on your MOUSE driver (in OS2\BOOT)... Here are the 3
>> >possible results and sizes of the files.
>> >
>> >--------------------------------
>> >[G:\TEMP]bldlevel mouse.sy2
>> >Build Level Display Facility Version 5.28.348 Jan 22 1998
>> >(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1993-1998
>> >Signature:       @#IBM:10.030#@ Mouse Device Driver-UNI
>> >Vendor:          IBM
>> >Revision:        10.30
>> >File Version:    10.30
>> >Description:     Mouse Device Driver-UNI
>> >
>> >[G:\TEMP]bldlevel mouse.sy3
>> >Build Level Display Facility Version 5.28.348 Jan 22 1998
>> >(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1993-1998
>> >Signature:       @#IBM:10.030#@ Mouse Device Driver-SMP
>> >Vendor:          IBM
>> >Revision:        10.30
>> >File Version:    10.30
>> >Description:     Mouse Device Driver-SMP
>> >
>> >[G:\TEMP]bldlevel mouse.sy5
>> >Build Level Display Facility Version 5.28.348 Jan 22 1998
>> >(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1993-1998
>> >unknown return code 4 from FileVerGetVersionStringFromFile
>> >File mouse.sy5 has no LAN component-style version string.
>> >No driver EA's were found
>> >
>> >[G:\TEMP]dir mo*
>> >
>> >The volume label in drive G is DRIVE_G.
>> >The Volume Serial Number is E369:6815.
>> >Directory of G:\temp
>> >
>> >MOUSE    SY2    19603   7-12-99   3:50p
>> >MOUSE    SY3    19459   7-12-99   3:50p
>> >MOUSE    SY5    23513   7-12-99   3:52p
>> >---------
>> >I suspect you'll match what I've called MOUSE.SY3 or MOUSE.SY5. If you
>> >are on a NON-SMP machine, you want what I call MOUSE.SY2. You get that
>> >from the FP in the BDD.2 directory under FIX. UNPACK MOUSE.SY_. You
>> >should also see a backup either the BACKUP or ARCHIVE directory you
>> >could recover from.
>> >
>> >We'll get that corrected in the next DD FP.
>> >
>> >Irv
>> >
>> >"Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." wrote:
>> >>
>> >> After installing DDPak1, I've noticed that WipeOut no longer responds to 
the
>> >> mouse.  If I've just moused around without touching the keyboard, the
screen
>> >> will blank, and it no longer responds to the hot corners.  Has anyone
else
>> >> experienced this?  Which drivers should I restore in order to return
this
>> >> functionality?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance!
>> >> Jaime A. Cruz, Jr.
>> >>

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From: ddudley@inspired-designs.net                      06-Oct-99 13:44:06
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: Re: Traps with OS/2 Warp Server 4 eBusiness

From: David Dudley <ddudley@inspired-designs.net>


"Scott E. Garfinkle" wrote:

> On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 11:16:32 -0500, David Dudley wrote:
>
> >  Is there a way, from a trap file, to generate the register dump
information?
> Yes, use a "strings" utility (see hobbes.nmsu.edu) or even perhaps e.exe --
> an ascii version of the trap screen is stored near the beginning of the
dump.
> If you're using JFS, you ought to download the JFSFIX1 package from our
> webiste.

Try this one on for size.  Happened about 1PM central time, server was "idle"
(or
as idle as it gets around here), and decided to take a long walk off a short
pier.
I loaded the dump file into epm, and extracted this:

TRAP 0003       ERRCD=0000  ERACC=****  ERLIM=********
EAX=00004444  EBX=ffed0f8a  ECX=ffed1000  EDX=00000000
ESI=000010a0  EDI=fdb90fe2  EBP=0000ff0c  FLG=00003246
CS:EIP=0650:000012f9  CSACC=009f  CSLIM=000069dd
SS:ESP=00e8:0000ff08  SSACC=0097  SSLIM=0000dfff
DS=0648  DSACC=00f3  DSLIM=00002e17  CR0=8001001b
ES=0648  ESACC=00f3  ESLIM=00002e17  CR2=ffeb5000
FS=0000  FSACC=****  FSLIM=********


Now, only things running on this is the Hethmon Bros. email server, which ran
EXACTLY THE SAME, on Server Advanced for over a year, before the upgrade. 
After
the upgrade, this machine resets about once or twice a day.  I have another
server
running temporarily with DNS, FTP, HTTP, IRC, and just about every other piece 
of
software I can imagine running on it, except for the email system, and it
hasn't
crashed once in over 2 months.  I figure this is definately a problem with the
InetMail.Pro, program, but can't for the life of me figure out why it worked
so
well *before*, with the same configuration, layout, files, ..... everything
except
the OS.  Paul Hethmon wants to fix it, but doesn't know where to look, and I
figure
its not his problem *exactly*, anyway.  As a "server" goes, this thing should
be
*crashproof* (or as practical as possible), and I don't believe that a program
*any* program, should be able to crash the entire OS like this.

(Steps off soapbox)
Is there some way I can figure basically what was going on at the time?  or
what
happened????

Later-

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From: oliver.rick@oor.de                                05-Oct-99 23:11:29
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: Re: DDPak1 and BocaSoft WipeOut

From: oliver.rick@oor.de (Oliver Rick)

On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 Irv Spalten wrote:

> I suspect you'll match what I've called MOUSE.SY3 or MOUSE.SY5. If you
> are on a NON-SMP machine, you want what I call MOUSE.SY2. You get that
> from the FP in the BDD.2 directory under FIX. UNPACK MOUSE.SY_. You
> should also see a backup either the BACKUP or ARCHIVE directory you
> could recover from.

> We'll get that corrected in the next DD FP.

Will there be a merger of the mouse.sys codes? As far as I can see there
is still a difference between the DDFIXPAK driver and the (now merged)
USB prerequisite and scrollmouse driver. It looks like the enhanced
keyboard driver (USB prerequisite) made it to the DDFIXPAK.

   /Olli/
--
IBM OS/2 Warp Update Summary:
http://www.warpupdates.de/english/warpupdates.html

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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             06-Oct-99 15:18:13
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: Re: Traps with OS/2 Warp Server 4 eBusiness

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 15:05:27 -0500, David Dudley wrote:

OK, given that, it's clear that the trap is in ibmatapi.flt.  Looks like
IBMATAPI was expecting data back from an ATAPI device and
didn't get it.  I'll talk to you further offline.

>TRAP 0003       ERRCD=0000  ERACC=****  ERLIM=********
>EAX=00004444  EBX=ffed0f8a  ECX=ffed1000  EDX=00000000
>ESI=000010a0  EDI=fdb90fe2  EBP=0000ff0c  FLG=00003246
>CS:EIP=0650:000012f9  CSACC=009f  CSLIM=000069dd
>hmte=00c0 pmte=%fdbacfac mflags=0008e1c9 c:\ibmatapi.flt
>seg  sect psiz vsiz hob  sel  flags
>0001 0013 0b5a 2e18 0000 0648 8d49 data iter prel rel
>0002 00cc 69de 69de 0000 0650 8d60 code shr prel rel


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From: diin@xs4all.nl                                    06-Oct-99 22:04:18
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 21:36:00
Subj: Re: Warpstock '99 Atlanta, GA USA

From: diin@xs4all.nl (DiiN)

In article <7tdplf$6nq$1@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>,
"Sam Brown" <rigor@mindspring.com> wrote:

>maybe you accidently search/replaced windows NT with os/2.
>hahaha

The big and slow Dino's allready died out, and of course NT will die out
as well.
ha ha ha :-)

-- 

Groetens, Dieter.

***Email  diin@xs4all.nl (Dieter)
***Netmail 2:280/815.16

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From: norrisg@linkline.com                              06-Oct-99 18:35:20
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: NS 4.61: Runs at raised priority ?!

From: "Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com>

I've been using this in a Rexx exec since I installed 4.04 on my system:

/* Make sure Netscape starts at normal priority to stop it hogging
everything */

no_change = 0
idle = 1
regular = 2
time_critical = 3
foreground = 4
IF rexxver >= 6.00 THEN CALL SysSetPriority regular, 0

The reason I did this was that InJoy was launching Netscape at InJoy's
priority, and this brought it down to normal.

Graham.

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From: norrisg@linkline.com                              06-Oct-99 18:41:08
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: Warp 4 FP12 bugs

From: "Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com>

Irv Spalten wrote:
> As for WinOS/2 problems. we've been getting reports of these problems
> all along. What we've NOT been able to do it get a recreatable scenario.
> As you can see here, some people say increase the number of files and it
> works, other say no. If you have a recreatable scenario that you know
> works on more than one machine, and ideally, different machines owned by
> different people in different setups, let me know, it would sure help.

Another common one is fonts. Either fonts defined which don't exist, or
turning ATM on or ATM off. Since fonts are files which are opened when
Win-OS2 starts, maybe there's some correlation?

Graham.

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From: pmyyz@netcom.ca                                   06-Oct-99 23:22:12
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: hotmail problem

From: Paul Marchildon <pmyyz@netcom.ca>

I have been having a problem with hotmail. Has anyone else been having
it? Does anyone know a fix?

When I try to access mail, Netscape 4.61 freezes, and then my swap file
grows to fill the hard drive. No data is being downloaded while this is
happening (I have an external modem and can see that nothing i being
recieved).

I have fix pack 12 for warp 4, java 1.18 and the fix pack for it.

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From: jsjones@selectric.net                             07-Oct-99 03:14:21
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: FixPack 12 and Netscape

From: jsjones@selectric.net

Do you, per chance, have a files=200 statement in your config.sys? I upped the 

files statement in mine to 200 and got traps in Java applets -- and not just
via 
netscape, but standalone JavaPM applets, as well. I dropped it back to 20 and 
the problem went away.

I still need to up the files to start seamless windows, but I take care of
that 
via session preferences.

In <tbssranenyrvtuvozpbz.fj77kl0.pminews@rtpnews.raleigh.ibm.com>, "Jim
Goffena" <goffena@raleigh.ibm.com> writes:
>On 06 Oct 1999 10:54:50 PDT, Steve Richards wrote:
>
>:>
>
>I haven't seen that problem, but on my TP after FP12 I can no longer run java
>inside any version of netscape.  good ole trapd
>

selectric.net? think international business machines, instead.

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From: jsjones@selectric.net                             07-Oct-99 03:18:27
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: Trap000D when clicking drive icon or using DosQueryPathInfo

From: jsjones@selectric.net

Oh, no. They most certainly left in their bugs (perhaps for sentimental
reasons).

I always have errors after adding, modifying or deleting HPFS files under NT
and 
(now) always boot to my maintenance partition and do a chkdsk before returning 

to my working OS/2 4.

In <frthfvozpbz.fj6nqye.pminews@ausnews>, "Scott E. Garfinkle"
<seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com> writes:
>On 6 Oct 1999 13:22:58 GMT, Frank McKenney wrote:
>
>>>So you have a PINBALL.SYS that has all these bugs
>>>corrected?
>>Or he just left out an implicit "in OS/2's HPFS support" between
>>"cleaned up" and "in the last few years."
>Yes, correct. pinball.sys is (I assume) based on the same HPFS code with
>which
>we were left after the (in)famous split.  We have been making fixes. I doubt
>that they have.
>
>


selectric.net? think international business machines, instead.

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From: luistino@my-deja.com                              07-Oct-99 03:51:26
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: FixPack 12 and Netscape

From: luistino <luistino@my-deja.com>

Steve Richards wrote:
> 
> Has anyone noticed a problem with NS461 after installing FP12 ?
> 
> I can't put my finger on the exact problem just yet but the symptoms that
are popping up are...
> 
> -End Netscape and it stays active hidden from the task list. It has to be
Killed with a process killer.
> 
> -A page will stall and then PM windows will become visible in that page.
> 
> I have to kill NS to get around these problems.
> It then functions normally for a while.
> 
> I noticed this after installing FP 12.  It seemed OK with FP11.
> 
> Any thoughts on this or anyone else notice this ?

Mine displays very similar behaviour...My video card is a Diamond
Stealth.

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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           06-Oct-99 23:55:29
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: DD Pak1 and IBM1S506.ADD

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <37FB5819.D5D4DE8F@us.ibm.com>, on 10/06/99 at 09:09 AM,
   Irv Spalten <ispalten@us.ibm.com> said:

First of all, thank you very much for your helpful postings and help here
and elsewhere. You epitomize the attitude of IBM I remember from CE's as
far back as 1953. I truly wish there wre more of you.

Now to my problem. After installing the DD Pack update to my Warp 4, FP 12
system, it would no longer recognize my ATAPI CDRW drive which should be
recognized solely as a CD Rom drive since I do not load RSJ on that
partition.

I got the error message that IBMIDECD.FLT failed to load. I first replaced
it from the archive and still no joy. Then I replaced IBM1506.ADD and the
CD came back.

I have not yet applied the DD Pack to my principal Warp partition, only to
the maintenance partition as a test. (Yes I also had to replace Mouse.sys,
but you had warned me about that here.)

I read the readme, and I find nothing in CONFIG.SYS which is not in sync
with the readme file. For the record, here are the appropriate lines from
the maintenance partition CONFIG.SYS. The CDRW is the only ATAPI (IDE)
device in an otherwise all SCSI system.

BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD /!V /A:0 /U:0 /ATAPI  
BASEDEV=IBMIDECD.FLT /V                    

Those lines work with the following versions of the two files. BLDLEVEL
IBM1S506.ADD shows:


[f:\os2\boot]BLDLEVEL IBM1S506.ADD
Build Level Display Facility Version 5.28.348 Jan 22 1998
(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1993-1998
Signature:       @#IBM:9.36#@  Adapter Driver for ST506/IDE DASD Vendor:       
  
IBM
Revision:        9.36
File Version:    9.36
Description:     Adapter Driver for ST506/IDE DASD

Dir shows:  ibm1s506.add    66379   2-09-98  11:45


BLDLEVEL IBMIDECD.FLT shows:

[f:\os2\boot]BLDLEVEL IBMIDECD.FLT
Build Level Display Facility Version 5.28.348 Jan 22 1998
(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1993-1998
Signature:       @#IBM:10.005#@  Adapter Driver for ATAPI CD-ROMs Vendor:      
   
IBM
Revision:        10.05
File Version:    10.5
Description:     Adapter Driver for ATAPI CD-ROMs

Dir shows:  ibmidecd.flt    24084   6-12-98  18:53


--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------
Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 9
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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From: arjen@removethis.hacom.nl                         07-Oct-99 08:45:09
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 05:18:12
Subj: Yes: A sys3175 in netscape.exe

From: "Arjen Meijer" <arjen@removethis.hacom.nl>

Oke, it is a very unbelievable situation but never the less it happened. (It
is just my 
second sys3175 in Fixpack 12 after sys3175 in install.dll.)

This error pops up if a javascript error is made and netscape reloads the
script. After 
same loadings is gives this error. Debug a javascript is easy by typing the
word 
javascript at the url.

Make netscape even better. I the Netherlands the OS/2 version is more current
than 
the windows versions (4.61 vs 4.5x). Shout it out!

Arjen


10-06-1999  16:34:22  SYS3175  PID 0047  TID 0002  Slot 0084
C:\PROGRAM.MAP\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
0052dbd0
P1=00000000  P2=ffffffff  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX  
EAX=01486aa0  EBX=01486aa0  ECX=00000000  EDX=01486aa0
ESI=656d7563  EDI=049e2600  
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff  
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff  
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:0052dbd0  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:00f6fee0  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=00f6ff80  FLG=00012202

NETSCAPE.EXE 0001:0051dbd0



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From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu                      07-Oct-99 08:16:19
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 10:30:28
Subj: Re: hotmail problem

From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu

In article <37FC11F0.A4152D0B@netcom.ca>,
  Paul Marchildon <pmyyz@netcom.ca> wrote:

<snip>

Go into your netscape directory and delete netscape.hst. Also, clean
out your cache directory(ies).

Happened to me once with 2.02, and this was the cure.

--
-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |Warpstock '99 | Oct 16-17|
hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |       Atlanta GA        |


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: Markus.Quandt@gmx.net                             07-Oct-99 10:45:15
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 10:30:29
Subj: Warp 4, FP9, and File Phoenix 1.35 - broken?

From: Markus Quandt <Markus.Quandt@gmx.net>

Hi all,

I just noticed that File Phoenix (the HPFS Undelete Utility) seems to be
broken on both of my machines. Used to work up to, say, FP6, when I last
used it.

Now, it starts a file scan and then just stops working when it nears
completion, and/or wants to show the deleted file list. Also, it cannot
be stopped at this stage, neither can it be closed or killed (well, the
PM interface sometimes can be closed, sometimes that attempt hangs the
WPS) - just sits there, with two blocked threads still open, doing
nothing, not consuming CPU time.

The two machines are rather different, one old, one brand new, and I
suspect its related to one of the newer FixPacks.

Any hints?

Many thanks, Markus Quandt

-- 
__________________________________________________________________
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  Institut f. Angewandte Sozialforschung der Universitaet zu Koeln
  Greinstr. 2     50939 Koeln
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From: mirco.miranda@tin.it                              07-Oct-99 12:02:07
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 10:30:29
Subj: IE4 16 bit for Win31

From: Mirco Miranda <mirco.miranda@tin.it>

I can't install MSIE4 16 bit in Win-OS2
Can you help me!

On win 3.1 under MS-DOS it works!

Thanks, Mirco

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From: steve_antispam@aducredit.com                      07-Oct-99 04:15:29
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 10:30:29
Subj: Re: FixPack 12 and Netscape

From: "Steve Richards" <steve_antispam@aducredit.com>

Well, I'd say something is amuck, and I suspect
Java and Netscape, I'm going to reinstall Java
and see if it makes a difference...

On Thu, 07 Oct 1999 03:51:53 GMT, luistino wrote:

-->Steve Richards wrote:
-->> 
-->> Has anyone noticed a problem with NS461 after installing FP12 ?
-->> 
-->> I can't put my finger on the exact problem just yet but the symptoms that 
are popping up are...
-->> 
-->> -End Netscape and it stays active hidden from the task list. It has to be 
Killed with a process killer.
-->> 
-->> -A page will stall and then PM windows will become visible in that page.
-->> 
-->> I have to kill NS to get around these problems.
-->> It then functions normally for a while.
-->> 
-->> I noticed this after installing FP 12.  It seemed OK with FP11.
-->> 
-->> Any thoughts on this or anyone else notice this ?
-->
-->Mine displays very similar behaviour...My video card is a Diamond
-->Stealth.



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From: rhb@accessv.com                                   07-Oct-99 12:23:17
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 14:41:20
Subj: Re: IE4 16 bit for Win31

From: "Rob Burton" <rhb@accessv.com>

Does the setup program refuse to run, giving a message that it needs "more
than 4 MB of space"? It's the way Microsoft lies, instead of saying, "we
don't want it to run in win-os2" that bugs me. Sneaks.

On Thu, 07 Oct 1999 12:02:14 +0200, Mirco Miranda wrote:

|I can't install MSIE4 16 bit in Win-OS2
|Can you help me!
|
|On win 3.1 under MS-DOS it works!
|
|Thanks, Mirco
|



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From: pcoen@drunivac.drew.edu                           07-Oct-99 09:23:07
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 14:41:20
Subj: Re: FixPack 12 and Netscape

From: Paul Coen <pcoen@drunivac.drew.edu>

> 
> Steve Richards wrote:
>
> I noticed this after installing FP 12.  It seemed OK with FP11.


I've seen this behavior with FP 10 and 12 -- I skipped 11.  I've
got an S3trio64V+ video chipset, and I'm using the GRADD drivers.

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From: mikus@bga.com                                     07-Oct-99 07:36:16
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 14:41:20
Subj: FP12 and Process Commander

From: mikus@bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs)

This topic is being discussed in newsgroup stardock.os2.support.
I've copied three articles (leaving out what those articles quoted):


| From: "Dan Nimick" <dannospammo@us.ibm.com>
| Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 08:15:39 -0400 (EDT)
|
| Did you actually watch the PC installation?  Did you not see
|
|   Installing Hooks...
|   ERROR: The E:\OS2\DLL\DOSCALL1.DLL DLL must have exactly one Imported
|   Module Name
|
| go by?  I agree that it seems to work correctly, but I bet the DOSCALL1
| hook is not really there...


| From: "Brad Wardell" <bwardell@stardock.com>
| Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:28:35 -0400
|
| Our view is that if an IBM fixpack breaks Process Commander than IBM needs
| to address the problem in their Fixpack.
|
| Brad


| From: "Brad Wardell" <bwardell@stardock.com>
| Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:53:58 -0400
|
| Unfortunately, users will have to choose either Process Commander or FP12.
|
| Brad


As near as I can tell, Stardock "farmed out" the development of
Process Commander - Stardock says they do NOT own the source code.
And from the discussion I am led to believe that it does not make
good business sense to fund further updating of this product.

mikus

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From: worlock@frontiernet.net                           07-Oct-99 10:06:01
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 14:41:20
Subj: Re: FP12 and Process Commander

From: "RichS" <worlock@frontiernet.net>

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Hash: SHA1

On Thu, 07 Oct 1999 07:36:33 -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:

>This topic is being discussed in newsgroup stardock.os2.support.
>I've copied three articles (leaving out what those articles quoted):
>
>
>| From: "Dan Nimick" <dannospammo@us.ibm.com>
>| Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 08:15:39 -0400 (EDT)
>|
>| Did you actually watch the PC installation?  Did you not see
>|
>|   Installing Hooks...
>|   ERROR: The E:\OS2\DLL\DOSCALL1.DLL DLL must have exactly one Imported
>|   Module Name
>|
>| go by?  I agree that it seems to work correctly, but I bet the DOSCALL1
>| hook is not really there...
>
>
>| From: "Brad Wardell" <bwardell@stardock.com>
>| Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:28:35 -0400
>|
>| Our view is that if an IBM fixpack breaks Process Commander than IBM needs
>| to address the problem in their Fixpack.
>|
>| Brad
>
>
>| From: "Brad Wardell" <bwardell@stardock.com>
>| Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:53:58 -0400
>|
>| Unfortunately, users will have to choose either Process Commander or FP12.
>|
>| Brad
>
>
>As near as I can tell, Stardock "farmed out" the development of
>Process Commander - Stardock says they do NOT own the source code.
>And from the discussion I am led to believe that it does not make
>good business sense to fund further updating of this product.
>
>mikus
>
Stardock has 'written' practically nothing in that sense. PC was 'Watchcat'
with a facelift. Object Desktop was written by Kurt (who "comes in in his
spare time" according to Brad); TOB, BUGS and just about everything else was
just published by Stardock. And now Stardock has dumped all OS/2 developement
and support even to the extent of Brad's childish retributions against IBM to
kill OS/2 even more than it is... Some Stardock products are worth running
but only to the extent of 'if they work for you' and if you already own them.
Anyone who buys a Stardock product now for OS/2 is asking for a lot of
trouble and unsupported headaches! It's a shame that Brad is acting this way
and I will severely miss OD2 and PC. As far as the rest of their products?
BUGS is still updated. PMMail and PMINews apparently still have life from
Southsoft. But apparently the authors of the rest of their product have
"moved on" and there will be no more support or updates. Even the author of
Galactic Civ has "moved on", it's just a shame he couldn't have done it
quietly and with some dignity!!!

Some of the above is just my opinion by the way...

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Oh - Heck...I never could remember all that "nice" stuff.
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From: isaacl@bulls.ece.ubc.ca                           07-Oct-99 19:34:18
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:03
Subj: Re: Warp 4 FP12 bugs

From: isaacl@bulls.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)

Irv Spalten (ispalten@us.ibm.com) wrote:
[stuff deleted]
: As for WinOS/2 problems. we've been getting reports of these problems
: all along. What we've NOT been able to do it get a recreatable scenario.
: As you can see here, some people say increase the number of files and it
: works, other say no. If you have a recreatable scenario that you know
: works on more than one machine, and ideally, different machines owned by
: different people in different setups, let me know, it would sure help.

Ever since FP9 or 10 or whenever, WinOS2 seamless sessions have refused to
start. I have 2 very different machines:
- home brew K6II-350 with Matrox Millenium video
- Toshiba 480CDT laptop

They both exhibit exactly the same problem with every WinOS2 program I
try. Fortunately, somebody pointed out a fix that has worked every single
time, on both setups, up to and including FP12.

Go to the WinOS2 session settings and turn ON the following:
WIN_ATM = ON
DOS_UMB = ON



Isaac

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From: AFECU@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU                             07-Oct-99 14:43:02
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:03
Subj: Re: Warp 4, FP9, and File Phoenix 1.35 - broken?

From: Aron Eisenpress <AFECU@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

I get similar results with File Phoenix 1.33 and FP12... :-(

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From: elygre@c2i.net                                    07-Oct-99 18:48:11
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:03
Subj: HELP.JAVA 1.1.8 will not start

From: elygre@c2i.net

I have installed JAVA 1.1.8, but it will not start. No error messages 
or anything.
If I drag a sample object to NC, it displays a message saying: 
"Starting JAVA" and a counter showing how many % is loaded. At about 
15 %, NC dies without a message.
If I try to run the famous code "hello" (JAVA hello) in an os/2 
window, nothing happens. The cursor just reappear ready for a new 
command.
If I double click the icon hello.java in the folder "hello" in SAMPLES
an os/2-window is opened with the title "Compile Java code". An error 
message without a number (identification) is displayed saying 
something like "Unrecoverable error. Process stopped. Press a key when
ready."

Any idea what to do?

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From: pmyyz@netcom.ca                                   07-Oct-99 16:30:23
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:04
Subj: Re: hotmail problem

From: Paul Marchildon <pmyyz@netcom.ca>

Thanks, tried it, but it didn't help at all. So the problem must lie
elsewhere, my guess is that it is a java problem.

hunters@thunder.indstate.edu wrote:

> In article <37FC11F0.A4152D0B@netcom.ca>,
>   Paul Marchildon <pmyyz@netcom.ca> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Go into your netscape directory and delete netscape.hst. Also, clean
> out your cache directory(ies).
>
> Happened to me once with 2.02, and this was the cure.
>
> --
> -Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |Warpstock '99 | Oct 16-17|
> hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |       Atlanta GA        |
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

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From: abrahams@sparc.isl.net                            07-Oct-99 17:18:11
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 21:23:27
Subj: help

From: "Lionel C. Abrahams" <abrahams@sparc.isl.net>

After a rare OS/2 WARP 4 system crash, I have found that on my HPFS
drives, some of my files and directories date/time stamped got
updated to the date/time of the crash :-(

Using the detail view of the drives object, I see that the "last
write date" and "last write time" were the same as the "last access
date" and "last access time" (crash date/time), and naturally were
different from the "Creation date" and "Creation time"

How easy/hard/impossible would it be to write a REXX routine to
sequentially inspect every file on my HPFS drives, and reset a file
"last write date" and "last write time" to its file "Creation date"
and "Creation time", when/if it found the file "last write date" to
be the same as its "last access date"?

I am learning REXX, and this sounds like a neat utility, but I have
not the foggiest idea where those fields are maintained in a file,
and how to access/modify them :-(

TIA

...Posted with PMINews 2.00.1200
   using OS/2 WARP 4 + FP11




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From: abrahams@sparc.isl.net                            07-Oct-99 17:26:06
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 21:23:28
Subj: Re: Warp 4, FP9, and File Phoenix 1.35 - broken?

From: "Lionel C. Abrahams" <abrahams@sparc.isl.net>

File Phoenix at Release 1.33 works fine with Warp at FP11.
Could you back level to 1.33 to check it out?


On Thu, 07 Oct 1999 10:45:31 +0200, Markus Quandt wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I just noticed that File Phoenix (the HPFS Undelete Utility) seems to be
>broken on both of my machines. Used to work up to, say, FP6, when I last
>used it.
>
>Now, it starts a file scan and then just stops working when it nears
>completion, and/or wants to show the deleted file list. Also, it cannot
>be stopped at this stage, neither can it be closed or killed (well, the
>PM interface sometimes can be closed, sometimes that attempt hangs the
>WPS) - just sits there, with two blocked threads still open, doing
>nothing, not consuming CPU time.
>
>The two machines are rather different, one old, one brand new, and I
>suspect its related to one of the newer FixPacks.
>
>Any hints?
>
>Many thanks, Markus Quandt
>
>-- 
>__________________________________________________________________
>Markus Quandt     quandt@wiso.uni-koeln.de | Markus.Quandt@gmx.net
>  Institut f. Angewandte Sozialforschung der Universitaet zu Koeln
>  Greinstr. 2     50939 Koeln
>  Tel. +49-221/470-4232                      Fax. +49-221/470-5169
>  Find my PGP public key and other information here:
>http://www.uni-koeln.de/wiso-fak/ifas/html/personal/homepage/quandt-markus/ind
ex.html

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From: abrahams@sparc.isl.net                            07-Oct-99 17:24:26
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 21:23:28
Subj: Re: Warp 4, FP9, and File Phoenix 1.35 - broken?

From: "Lionel C. Abrahams" <abrahams@sparc.isl.net>

File Phoenix at release 1.33 works just fine with FP11.  
Could you backlevel to 1.33 to check?




On Thu, 07 Oct 1999 10:45:31 +0200, Markus Quandt wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I just noticed that File Phoenix (the HPFS Undelete Utility) seems to be
>broken on both of my machines. Used to work up to, say, FP6, when I last
>used it.
>
>Now, it starts a file scan and then just stops working when it nears
>completion, and/or wants to show the deleted file list. Also, it cannot
>be stopped at this stage, neither can it be closed or killed (well, the
>PM interface sometimes can be closed, sometimes that attempt hangs the
>WPS) - just sits there, with two blocked threads still open, doing
>nothing, not consuming CPU time.
>
>The two machines are rather different, one old, one brand new, and I
>suspect its related to one of the newer FixPacks.
>
>Any hints?
>
>Many thanks, Markus Quandt
>
>-- 
>__________________________________________________________________
>Markus Quandt     quandt@wiso.uni-koeln.de | Markus.Quandt@gmx.net
>  Institut f. Angewandte Sozialforschung der Universitaet zu Koeln
>  Greinstr. 2     50939 Koeln
>  Tel. +49-221/470-4232                      Fax. +49-221/470-5169
>  Find my PGP public key and other information here:
>http://www.uni-koeln.de/wiso-fak/ifas/html/personal/homepage/quandt-markus/ind
ex.html

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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             07-Oct-99 15:04:24
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 21:23:28
Subj: Re: Warp 4, FP9, and File Phoenix 1.35 - broken?

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

On Thu, 07 Oct 1999 10:45:31 +0200, Markus Quandt wrote:

I'm using v1.35. It doesn't fail for me.  Upgrade to the latest phoenix/2. If
you still
have a problem, see if it's still a problem at the Warp 4 GA version of HPFS.
If it is, then
we'll pursue the matter as a fixpack regression.

>Now, it starts a file scan and then just stops working when it nears
>completion, and/or wants to show the deleted file list. Also, it cannot
>be stopped at this stage, neither can it be closed or killed (well, the
>PM interface sometimes can be closed, sometimes that attempt hangs the
>WPS) - just sits there, with two blocked threads still open, doing
>nothing, not consuming CPU time.


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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net                          08-Oct-99 01:28:22
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: Warp 4, FP9, and File Phoenix 1.35 - broken?

From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)

On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 20:04:48, "Scott E. Garfinkle" 
<seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com> wrote:

:I'm using v1.35. It doesn't fail for me.  Upgrade to the latest phoenix/2. If
:you still
:have a problem, see if it's still a problem at the Warp 4 GA version of HPFS.
:If it is, then
:we'll pursue the matter as a fixpack regression.

 File Phoenix fails for me on HPFS partitions larger than 2 GB. Any 
chance of a fix? Using v. 1.35 

-- 
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: wwilly@one.net                                    08-Oct-99 01:47:10
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: help

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article
<noenunzffcnepvfyarg.fj94im0.pminews@news.isl.net>,
  "Lionel C. Abrahams" <abrahams@sparc.isl.net>
wrote:
> After a rare OS/2 WARP 4 system crash, I have found
that on my HPFS
> drives, some of my files and directories date/time
stamped got
> updated to the date/time of the crash :-(
        <<<snip>>>
>    using OS/2 WARP 4 + FP11
        <<<snip>>>

That's your bug.  I saw this effect in FP11 from the
day it came out & posted about it several times here.
Although I saw it simply by executing certain
programs, not connected with a crash.  There is a
cryptic comment in the README2 for FP12 saying
there's a closed APAR dealing with PKZip that sounds
like it's the cure for this.  The problem has nothing
to do with PKZip so I don't understand why it's
listed like that.  The problem is cured in FP12.

> I am learning REXX, and this sounds like a neat
utility, but I have
> not the foggiest idea where those fields are
maintained in a file,
> and how to access/modify them :-(
>    using OS/2 WARP 4 + FP11

Sorry, can't help with this.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    08-Oct-99 03:15:13
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: FP12 and Process Commander

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

RichS (worlock@frontiernet.net) wrote:

: just published by Stardock. And now Stardock has dumped all OS/2
developement
: and support even to the extent of Brad's childish retributions against IBM
to
: kill OS/2 even more than it is... Some Stardock products are worth running

	I can't blame him.  If anything, the only thing I would put blame on
Brad is the fact that he continued making OS/2 software.  He should've 
gotten out of the OS/2 market by 1997, if not by 1996.  The message was 
there, albeit not as clear as it is has been in the last two years that IBM 
has no intention of OS/2 going back as a consumer OS.  Though I can see by 
1996 there would've been high expectations and hopes...it was the 
release of Warp 4 afterall and it did look really good.  Lot's of hopes.  Ah 
well.

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From: mckinnis@ibm.net                                  07-Oct-99 22:30:05
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: help

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@ibm.net>

I suspect FP11.  Suggest you go to FP12.  However, go to
http://www.os2ss.com/users/mckinnis for further discussion, a work
around, and a little Rexx routine that will put things back after you
get rid of the offending HPFS stuff.

"Lionel C. Abrahams" wrote:
> 
> After a rare OS/2 WARP 4 system crash, I have found that on my HPFS
> drives, some of my files and directories date/time stamped got
> updated to the date/time of the crash :-(
> 
> Using the detail view of the drives object, I see that the "last
> write date" and "last write time" were the same as the "last access
> date" and "last access time" (crash date/time), and naturally were
> different from the "Creation date" and "Creation time"
> 
> How easy/hard/impossible would it be to write a REXX routine to
> sequentially inspect every file on my HPFS drives, and reset a file
> "last write date" and "last write time" to its file "Creation date"
> and "Creation time", when/if it found the file "last write date" to
> be the same as its "last access date"?
> 
> I am learning REXX, and this sounds like a neat utility, but I have
> not the foggiest idea where those fields are maintained in a file,
> and how to access/modify them :-(
> 
> TIA
> 
> ...Posted with PMINews 2.00.1200
>    using OS/2 WARP 4 + FP11
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IBM Business Partner
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From: robinkk@attglobal.net                             08-Oct-99 17:44:21
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: Warp 4, FP9, and File Phoenix 1.35 - broken?

From: robinkk@attglobal.net (Robin Klitscher)

In article <WiQtt4WDEbXf-pn2-jWRPZmyB4owp@localhost>,
piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.) wrote:

>On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 20:04:48, "Scott E. Garfinkle" 
><seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>:I'm using v1.35. It doesn't fail for me.  Upgrade to the latest phoenix/2.
If
>:you still
>:have a problem, see if it's still a problem at the Warp 4 GA version of
HPFS.
>:If it is, then
>:we'll pursue the matter as a fixpack regression.
>
> File Phoenix fails for me on HPFS partitions larger than 2 GB. Any 
>chance of a fix? Using v. 1.35 
>

Same, same.  FP12 & File Phoenix V1.35 work OK here for HPFS < 2GB. 
But for > 2GB File Phoenix won't run at all - instantaneous message "No
recoverable files on X:" It's a known (design?) limitation, I think.  


(FWIW, Dialog Enhancer 99 also seems mildly to screw up the PM window
for File Phoenix.  Clips the right-hand border and scrollbar.)


-- 
Robin Klitscher
Wellington ("Harbour City") NZ

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 08-Oct-99 06:40:18
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 05:11:22
Subj: Re: Theseus

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <c1.2b8.2SLxmK$0IC@cast.grid.ibm.net>, jkovacs@ibm.net (Joe Kovacs) writes:
>
>At a certain point about eighteen months ago, we learned that 
>Theseus/2 was broken with the newest fixpack.

new one is just out, go to http://ps.software.ibm.com/ and navigate to the 
'new stuff' page. Works just lovely with SMP warp 3 fp 42.
(sorry, when I saved the URL it wouldn't let me go there direct)

many many thanks to the people who make these programs.
(but is the author of this Theseus3 really slaving over a 20MHz P70 ? 
I'd be GLAD to donate an old Pentium, at least !) 


>
>Joe Kovacs
>Guelph Ontario Canada
>
>


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From: mirco.miranda@tin.it                              08-Oct-99 09:18:17
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 05:11:22
Subj: Re: IE4 16 bit for Win31

From: Mirco Miranda <mirco.miranda@tin.it>

Rob Burton wrote:

> Does the setup program refuse to run, giving a message that it needs "more
> than 4 MB of space"? It's the way Microsoft lies, instead of saying, "we
> don't want it to run in win-os2" that bugs me. Sneaks.
>
> On Thu, 07 Oct 1999 12:02:14 +0200, Mirco Miranda wrote:
>
> |I can't install MSIE4 16 bit in Win-OS2
> |Can you help me!
> |
> |On win 3.1 under MS-DOS it works!
> |
> |Thanks, Mirco
> |

The error is "I don't find the MS IE Disk..."; but under DOS (and win31) it
Works!!!!
One People say me that it works under WinOS2 : run setup and it works....

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From: csaba.raduly@sophos.com                           08-Oct-99 10:06:17
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 11:55:23
Subj: Re: Warp 4 FP12 bugs

From: Csaba Raduly <csaba.raduly@sophos.com>

e-frog wrote:
> 
[snip]
> 
> They both exhibit exactly the same problem with every WinOS2 program I
> try. Fortunately, somebody pointed out a fix that has worked every single
> time, on both setups, up to and including FP12.
> 
I guess you mean processor utilization goes to 100% and nothing happens.
That seems to happen when certain PM programs are running
(like Borland C++ 2.0).

> Go to the WinOS2 session settings and turn ON the following:
> WIN_ATM = ON
> DOS_UMB = ON
> 
> Isaac

Yeeee-ha ! It's working !!!!
It was the ATM that was OFF. 

Thanks a million times
Csaba

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From: Spammers@Bite.Me                                  08-Oct-99 11:24:05
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 11:55:24
Subj: Re: FP12 and Process Commander

From: "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." <Spammers@Bite.Me>

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EXCEPT...

Process Commander is not really a consumer oriented product.  It is a
power-user product, and it can be a Help Desk/PC Administrator product.  But
do you really expect Joe Consumer to understand thread manipulation, process
manipulation, etc?

The real problem here is not really Stardock.  It's the original developers. 
Stardock does not possess the source code so they can't fix the problem even
if they wanted to.  Sorta opens one's eyes in regards to future contracts
with developers, I would think...

On 8 Oct 1999 03:15:27 GMT, John Hong wrote:

>RichS (worlock@frontiernet.net) wrote:
>
>: just published by Stardock. And now Stardock has dumped all OS/2
developement
>: and support even to the extent of Brad's childish retributions against IBM
to
>: kill OS/2 even more than it is... Some Stardock products are worth running
>
>	I can't blame him.  If anything, the only thing I would put blame on
>Brad is the fact that he continued making OS/2 software.  He should've 
>gotten out of the OS/2 market by 1997, if not by 1996.  The message was 
>there, albeit not as clear as it is has been in the last two years that IBM 
>has no intention of OS/2 going back as a consumer OS.  Though I can see by 
>1996 there would've been high expectations and hopes...it was the 
>release of Warp 4 afterall and it did look really good.  Lot's of hopes.  Ah 
>well.
>

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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           08-Oct-99 16:12:02
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 11:55:24
Subj: FP12 makes my HDD roar on boot

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>

Anyone else noticed this? After applying FP12 to my Warp 4 machine I am
getting very strange sounds from my HDD. At the very end of boot
sequence, just after the screen is cleared from drivers' boot messages
and before the blue PM color appears - my hard disk now makes a long
harsh ar-r-r-r sound like its heads are trying to go past the disk
surface :-). The sound lasts for 5-6 sec, boot then proceeds normally
and everything works fine, but I'm really scared to reboot my machine
now, I am not sure how long my HDD will survive this kind of "surface
testing". Needless to say, I've run checkdisk and GTU disk checker
several times with no errors of any kind reported.

The system is AMD K6-266, ASUS P55T2P4 mobo with 128M RAM, Tekram
DC-390F UW SCSI adapter and WD 3.4G UW SCSI attached (it also has second
EIDE WD 3.6G disk, used for storage only). Device drivers are left at
FP10 level, e.g. I did not apply DD Fixpack. Other hardware includes
ESS1868 sound card, two NICs (Realtek 8029 and DEC 41021 chipsets) and
Matrox Millenium I PCI video. The only device driver that was upgraded
simultaneously with applying FP12 is Matrox one, now at v.2.31.100.

Cheers,
Ivan

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From: goffena@raleigh.ibm.com                           08-Oct-99 09:58:26
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 11:55:24
Subj: Re: FixPack 12 and Netscape

From: "Jim Goffena" <goffena@raleigh.ibm.com>

On Thu, 07 Oct 1999 03:14:42 GMT, jsjones@selectric.net wrote:

:>Do you, per chance, have a files=200 statement in your config.sys? I upped
the 
:>files statement in mine to 200 and got traps in Java applets -- and not just 
via 
:>netscape, but standalone JavaPM applets, as well. I dropped it back to 20
and 
:>the problem went away.
:>
:>I still need to up the files to start seamless windows, but I take care of
that 
:>via session preferences.
:>

well i checked and no my files is set for 20 as is default.  I even got nuts
and uninstalled java and netscape completely again, reloaded netscape, FI125,
and java118.   load java nad boom trapd again.  i may try 117, but otherwise
i may have to finally format, or give up java.

jim


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From: bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net                        08-Oct-99 10:47:23
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: 1- Communicator 4.61 GA Bug Reporting; 2- Stalls

From: Felix Miata <bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net>

Michael Kaply wrote:
 
> >Brian Morrison wrote:

> >>So, exactly how do we report problems with IBM's flagship browser
> >>without having a support contract? I'd love to know.

> I am trying to get the problem solved that you can't report bugs through
> service without being a paying customer.
 
Any progress on your endeavor?


I've been using 4.61 GA extensively over the past week to work with
exclusively local files. None of these files are anything but pure HTML
or TXT and JPGs & GIFs. By extensively, I mean probably an average of
around 8 hrs per day actually in use, not just loaded.

It stalls very frequently trying to load anything, on what appears to be
a totally random basis, though once it hangs, several attempts to redo
or try something else are usually required to make anything happen. The
other alternative is to find something else to do until it decides to
finish, anywhere from double digit seconds to considerably over a
minute.

Stalls seem to be less frequent accessing the web, though its hard to
detect when the web is the stall, and I haven't noticed halts in the
middle of loading binaries of 200-400K. Running CHECKINI didn't change
anything. Multiple reboots didn't change anything. Deleting NETSCAPE.HST
didn't change anything. Reducing cache size didn't change anything. Only
going to preferences to clear the history and cache helps, and only very
briefly.

FP8
K6-2/450
Java* disabled
-- 
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refreshed.                Proverbs 11:25 NKJV

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From: comjim@commnw.net                                 08-Oct-99 15:42:02
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: Re: Traps with OS/2 Warp Server 4 eBusiness

From: Jim Trexler <comjim@commnw.net>

> Have noticed another problem, also.  When I reset the system, from a cold
boot,
> when I bring up NS4.04 (or 2.02... or 4.61... doens't matter which), the
FIRST time
> after a reset, I cannot get the DNS to operate.  Its on another machine, and
> although I can ping it (and resolve names from it using HOST, and NSLOOKUP,
and
> such..., AGAIN, not the FIRST attempt on any particular program), after the
FIRST
> attempt at using that program, any following attempt to use that program
works
> successfully. (With ping, I can ping any IP address, at any time.  Only
problem
> seems to be the first attempt at resolving a host name).  From any non-WS4eB
> system, no problem, any time.   


  i have a similar problem but mine wont work at all.  all networking is
dead at boot up.  no pings - nothing.  i found that if i rerun
mptstart.cmd then i get _some_ responses from ping.  i can ping the
loopback but not my own ip.  of all the servers in our net i can ping
some but not the rest.  i've been through the tcp and mpts settings, the
protocol.ini, and two days in dejanews but still no better.

  this install of wseb is on another bootable partition of a machine
with warp 4 client which works flawlessly.

  any suggestions????  ie help!!!

  thanks-  
    jim

 take out the c and o and m to get my email address.

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From: htravis@ibm.net                                   08-Oct-99 11:52:25
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: Re: Warp 4, FP9, and File Phoenix 1.35 - broken?

From: htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)

In <LTY/3MzgE+cf092yn@attglobal.net>, on 10/08/99 
   at 05:44 PM, robinkk@attglobal.net (Robin Klitscher) said:

>In article <WiQtt4WDEbXf-pn2-jWRPZmyB4owp@localhost>,
>piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.) wrote:

>>On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 20:04:48, "Scott E. Garfinkle" 
>><seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com> wrote:
>>
>>:I'm using v1.35. It doesn't fail for me.  Upgrade to the latest phoenix/2.
If
>>:you still
>>:have a problem, see if it's still a problem at the Warp 4 GA version of
HPFS.
>>:If it is, then
>>:we'll pursue the matter as a fixpack regression.
>>
>> File Phoenix fails for me on HPFS partitions larger than 2 GB. Any 
>>chance of a fix? Using v. 1.35 
>>

>Same, same.  FP12 & File Phoenix V1.35 work OK here for HPFS < 2GB. 
>But for > 2GB File Phoenix won't run at all - instantaneous message "No
>recoverable files on X:" It's a known (design?) limitation, I think.  

Some clarity, please, on the seeming size limiation. Is it on the the
partition, extended partition, or the virtual drive? Sometimes these are
referred to as loosely as I fear I may doing here.

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From: cwr@cts.com                                       08-Oct-99 16:31:07
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: Re: FP12 and Process Commander

From: Will Rose <cwr@cts.com>

Mikus Grinbergs <mikus@bga.com> wrote:
: This topic is being discussed in newsgroup stardock.os2.support.
: I've copied three articles (leaving out what those articles quoted):


: | From: "Dan Nimick" <dannospammo@us.ibm.com>
: | Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 08:15:39 -0400 (EDT)
: |
: | Did you actually watch the PC installation?  Did you not see
: |
: |   Installing Hooks...
: |   ERROR: The E:\OS2\DLL\DOSCALL1.DLL DLL must have exactly one Imported
: |   Module Name
: |
: | go by?  I agree that it seems to work correctly, but I bet the DOSCALL1
: | hook is not really there...


: | From: "Brad Wardell" <bwardell@stardock.com>
: | Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:28:35 -0400
: |
: | Our view is that if an IBM fixpack breaks Process Commander than IBM needs
: | to address the problem in their Fixpack.
: |
: | Brad


: | From: "Brad Wardell" <bwardell@stardock.com>
: | Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:53:58 -0400
: |
: | Unfortunately, users will have to choose either Process Commander or FP12.
: |
: | Brad


: As near as I can tell, Stardock "farmed out" the development of
: Process Commander - Stardock says they do NOT own the source code.
: And from the discussion I am led to believe that it does not make
: good business sense to fund further updating of this product.

It's relatively easy to patch the installer to handle the new DLL,
anyway in Warp 3 FP 40.  Stardock just did a bad job of writing the
installer; the actual PC code works ok.


Will
cwr@crash.cts.com

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From: cwr@cts.com                                       08-Oct-99 16:29:02
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: Re: Trap e on 3.0 FP 40.

From: Will Rose <cwr@cts.com>

S. Garfinkle <seg@austin.rr.com> wrote:


: Will Rose wrote:

:> I'm getting trap E's at 0168:FFF491D6 - 000E:C1D6 on a pretty
:> regular basis, around once a day.  It doesn't seem to tie in
:> to anything particular I'm doing; my guess is that either FP 40
:> blew something, or my machine's memory is going south.  Anyone
:> have any ideas as to how I could locate the source of the problem?
:> (Apart from swapping out memory - I don't have any spare modules at
:> the moment).
:>
:> Thanks - Will
:> cwr@crash.cts.com

: I guess I missed this one. Anyway, I suspect you posted the "error at
: location" -- this doesn't EVER change for any given kernel (except with
: a "panic" which is where you don't get registers). Anyway,  if you still
: have a problem, post an entire register screen or two.


TRAP 000E ERRCD 0000 ERACC **** ERLIM ********
EAX 00004078 (4000) EBX FEF0CA5A (FEF0CA53) ECX 00005062 (FFFF0600E)
EDX 00012286 (FFF0A8AC)
ESI FEEB0573 EDI FEEBB7EC EBP 00005032 FLG 00012286
CS:EIP 0168:FFF55A42 CSACC C09B CSLIM FFFFFFFF

DS 0160 DSACC C093 DSLIM FFFFFFFF CR0 8001001B
ES 0160 ESACC C093 ESLIM FFFFFFFF CR2 FEF06CA6E (???)

FS 0000 FSACC xxxx FSLIM ********
GS 0000 GSACC **** GSLIM xxxxxxxx

Internal processing error location ##0168:FFF491D6-000E:C1D6
60000, 9084

048600B4
Internal revision 8.264-uni, 98/12/4


The bracketed values are values from a second, otherwise identical,
trap.  The ??? marks a point where I suspect my data - it looks as
if I've added a digit to the CR2 record.

I'm pretty sure it's a RAM problem, tho' I'm not sure if it's cache
or main memory that's failing.


Will
cwr@crash.cts.com

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From: davek@clark.net                                   08-Oct-99 17:21:04
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: Re: Warp 4, FP9, and File Phoenix 1.35 - broken?

From: davek@clark.net (David Kunz)

Harry Travis (htravis@ibm.net) wrote:                                 

: Some clarity, please, on the seeming size limiation. Is it on the 
: the partition, extended partition, or the virtual drive? Sometimes 
: these are referred to as loosely as I fear I may doing here.        

Same problem.  Not a drive size problem, a partition size problem.  It
won't work on big partitions (9gig is the size of the one I'm having a
problem with).

--
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From: davek@clark.net                                   08-Oct-99 17:22:10
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: Re: FP12 and Process Commander

From: davek@clark.net (David Kunz)

Will Rose (cwr@cts.com) wrote:                                        
...
: It's relatively easy to patch the installer to handle the new DLL,
: anyway in Warp 3 FP 40.  Stardock just did a bad job of writing the 
: installer; the actual PC code works ok.                             

Ok, HOW???

--
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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             08-Oct-99 09:00:05
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: Re: Warp 4, FP9, and File Phoenix 1.35 - broken?

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

On 8 Oct 1999 01:28:45 GMT, Annie K. wrote:

> File Phoenix fails for me on HPFS partitions larger than 2 GB. Any 
>chance of a fix? Using v. 1.35 
OK, so the next question is  whether it has ALWAYS failed this way. It sounds
more like a bug in phoenix, to me -- in that case, I can't help, since I
don't have the
source code for that. The original complaint about hanging before displyaing
results
and only in recent fixpacks sounded more like a potential HPFS problem.


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From: rrkurtz@us.ibm.com                                08-Oct-99 11:17:07
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: Re: FixPack 12 and Netscape

From: Dick Kurtz <rrkurtz@us.ibm.com>

Ref:     Append at 09:58:52 on 99/10/08 -0400 (EDT)

Try removing classpath stuff from config.sys and Netscape.  I have "Ignore
System Classpath" checked and I blanked out the optional classpath line.  Also
deleted the classpath setting from config.sys.  Java 1.1.7 and later don't
need
or use it, at least that's what I've been told and Java works fine for me.

> well i checked and no my files is set for 20 as is default.  I even got nuts
> and uninstalled java and netscape completely again, reloaded netscape,
FI125,
> and java118.   load java nad boom trapd again.  i may try 117, but otherwise
> i may have to finally format, or give up java.

Dick Kurtz
eBusiness Development, Austin Tx.

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From: pm@nospam.mclink.it                               08-Oct-99 19:15:22
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: Re: FP12 makes my HDD roar on boot

From: "PM" <pm@nospam.mclink.it>

On Fri, 08 Oct 1999 16:12:04 +0400, Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

:>Matrox Millenium I PCI video. The only device driver that was upgraded
:>simultaneously with applying FP12 is Matrox one, now at v.2.31.100.

The problem is the new matrox drivers: on my PC, I have upgrade only the
matrox drivers and now the hard disk make the sound...

      Paolo
 p.micca@mclink.it


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From: jonholland@eclipse.co.uk                          07-Oct-99 11:01:26
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:06
Subj: Help: Outlook Express 5 - error in directdb.dll

From: "Jon" <jonholland@eclipse.co.uk>

This occurs when trying to access the deleted items folder or delete a mail
in outlook express 5.  Have removed (and hence created new) deleted
items.mbx and .idx but this hasn't help.  Anyone any ideas?

Not a problem I know how to solve..I have a customer who is
suffering...bless her.

--
Jon
Technical Support
Eclipse Networking
01392 202348


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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             08-Oct-99 13:34:19
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:07
Subj: Re: Trap e on 3.0 FP 40.

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

On 8 Oct 1999 16:29:05 GMT, Will Rose wrote:

>I'm pretty sure it's a RAM problem, tho' I'm not sure if it's cache
>or main memory that's failing.
Judging from the trap info, I would have made the exact statement you made.
You might also try slowing down the memory or cache in your BIOS' chipset
setup.


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From: upatoyou@ibmmail.com                              09-Oct-99 06:52:20
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:07
Subj: Re: FP12 makes my HDD roar on boot

From: "DeutschMick" <upatoyou@ibmmail.com>

So THAT'S it! - I only u/g'd Matrox support too!
>:>Matrox Millenium I PCI video. The only device driver that was upgraded
>:>simultaneously with applying FP12 is Matrox one, now at v.2.31.100.
>
>The problem is the new matrox drivers: on my PC, I have upgrade only the
>matrox drivers and now the hard disk make the sound...
>
>      Paolo
> p.micca@mclink.it
>
>

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     08-Oct-99 20:52:15
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:08
Subj: Re: HELP.JAVA 1.1.8 will not start

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 18:48:23, elygre@c2i.net wrote:

> I have installed JAVA 1.1.8, but it will not start. No error messages 
> or anything.
> If I drag a sample object to NC, it displays a message saying: 
> "Starting JAVA" and a counter showing how many % is loaded. At about 
> 15 %, NC dies without a message.
> If I try to run the famous code "hello" (JAVA hello) in an os/2 
> window, nothing happens. The cursor just reappear ready for a new 
> command.
> If I double click the icon hello.java in the folder "hello" in SAMPLES
> an os/2-window is opened with the title "Compile Java code". An error 
> message without a number (identification) is displayed saying 
> something like "Unrecoverable error. Process stopped. Press a key when
> ready."
> 
> Any idea what to do?
> 

What happens, if you go to an OS/2 command line, and type: "JAVA 
-version" (no quotes, all on one line, and it must be lower case)? How
about "JAVA -fullversion"??

Waiting to hear...
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     08-Oct-99 20:52:14
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:08
Subj: Re: help

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 22:18:22, "Lionel C. Abrahams" 
<abrahams@sparc.isl.net> wrote:

> After a rare OS/2 WARP 4 system crash, I have found that on my HPFS
> drives, some of my files and directories date/time stamped got
> updated to the date/time of the crash :-(
> 
> Using the detail view of the drives object, I see that the "last
> write date" and "last write time" were the same as the "last access
> date" and "last access time" (crash date/time), and naturally were
> different from the "Creation date" and "Creation time"
> 
> How easy/hard/impossible would it be to write a REXX routine to
> sequentially inspect every file on my HPFS drives, and reset a file
> "last write date" and "last write time" to its file "Creation date"
> and "Creation time", when/if it found the file "last write date" to
> be the same as its "last access date"?
> 
> I am learning REXX, and this sounds like a neat utility, but I have
> not the foggiest idea where those fields are maintained in a file,
> and how to access/modify them :-(
> 
> TIA
> 
> ....Posted with PMINews 2.00.1200
>    using OS/2 WARP 4 + FP11
> 
> 
> 
> 
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As suggested elsewhere, you might be seeing a bug, introduced in FP11.
Go to FP12, or back out to your previous FP.

I don't know if it will help, but check out the REXX Tips an tricks 
(look for RXTT29.ZIP). There is a LOT of good stuff there.

Hope this helps...
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From: news@fenrir.demon.co.uk                           08-Oct-99 07:56:08
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:08
Subj: Communicator 4.61 GA - font display different from Windows version

From: "Brian Morrison" <news@fenrir.demon.co.uk>

If I go to http://www/slashdot.org, Comm/2 4.61 displays most of the
text in each paragraph as italicized.

Under Win95, Communicator 4.61 displays as the standard fixed pitch
font (TNR 12pt), not in italics.

Anyone have any ideas why this happens? I've tried resetting my fonts
and it makes no difference.


-- 
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 ...Grim faced, cold as fishwife's fingers, he snatched from the wall
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From: news@fenrir.demon.co.uk                           08-Oct-99 07:52:17
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:08
Subj: Re: FP12 and Process Commander

From: "Brian Morrison" <news@fenrir.demon.co.uk>

On Thu, 07 Oct 1999 07:36:33 -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:

>As near as I can tell, Stardock "farmed out" the development of
>Process Commander

Not exactly, the WatchCat developers extended that product and Stardock
published it. That's why they don't have the source code.


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From: dink@dont.spam.me                                 08-Oct-99 18:39:15
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 21:25:14
Subj: Re: FP12 makes my HDD roar on boot

From: "dinkmeister" <dink@dont.spam.me>

Yep! I notice that too, but I don't know if its because the
new matrox drivers or the fixpak, because I applied them
both at the same time.  

- dink ( http://dink.org )



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