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From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi                             02-Oct-99 04:54:16
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:14
Subj: Re: FAT32 IFS tips...

From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard)

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 23:14:44, Jim Parker <jdparker@erols.com> wrote:

> First a question. I need the the FAT32 driver now but don't know where to
> find it. Would you please point me to it?

ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/system/drivers/filesys

or http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/index.html for the latest 
(0.90) version

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From: xyxmadxyx@xyxziplinkxyx.xyxnetxyx                 02-Oct-99 12:23:22
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 12:27:03
Subj: Re: Installing Lotus SmartSuite - Problems (continue ...)

From: xyxmadxyx@xyxziplinkxyx.xyxnetxyx (mark davidson)

On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:35:58, "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com> 
wrote:

> >I'm running Warp4 FP11 and can't seem to install Lotus SmartSuite 1.0.
> >The error message indicates that I'm not at the appropriate FP level
> >but at FP 11, that shouldn't be a problem, should it?

> You must run the install from a CMD.EXE session, NOT 4OS2, or some
> other replacement shell. LSS/2 install depends or the info returned by
> "ver /r" command. Most replacement shells don't return the proper
> response. Most shells, all that's required is to type "CMD [Enter]"
> then run install.

thanks for the responses.  indeed, i do run 4os2 but having installed 
smartsuite once before, i had already reverted to a 'cmd.exe' setup 
for the installation.  ver /r results in The Operating System/2 
Version is 4.00 Revision 9.035.  

this is a recent reinstallation of warp4 and fp11 was the first 
fixpack applied to the system.  if i recall, the device drivers were 
not part of fp11 and i'm wondering if perhaps i need to apply the 
first device driver fixpack to successfully install smartsuite on my 
system?

again, any thoughts appreciated.  thanks/regards, ..

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From: horseman@ibm.net                                  02-Oct-99 14:59:06
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 14:10:00
Subj: Re: WinOs/2 Printing now has Blobs

From: Tony Wright <horseman@ibm.net>

Chr*st! here we go again - tis like pulling teeth...... <g>

Eric A. Erickson wrote:

> All of a sudden all my printing for some WinOs/2 Apps now have black blobs

BLOBS = Binary Large OBjects? , black amorphous wingdings or maybe you
just sneezed in the toner/inkjet cartridge?

> and lines on it.

parallel, convergent, horizontal, vertical, overstruck, circular,
dotted, linear straight, curved, exponential, hyperbolic, involute,
eplipsoid, asymetric, rail, way, air or shipping.......etc?  
- delete all those inapplicable please....

"Blobs/Lines" mixed(sporadically or consistent with a column or
typeface/character) in with readable text or only "Blobs/Lines"?

> I have not made any configuration changes that I'm aware of it, but really
need to get this
> fixed.

(Can't really see why you want this fixed as the symptoms appear
eminently more informative and useful themselves, per se,  than the
miserly offering that you've posted here?<g>)

....but with minimum/zero amount of personal effort to supply any other
relevant information apparently.....       :-(              
........unless...
... reluctantly forced to by pain or threat of continued verbal
harrassment..... or even some passing embarrassment perhaps?<g>

> Any clues.

Yes -  but the number of clues is inversely proportional to the amount
of information you've tendered.... and thus would exceed both the
maximum size on the newserver gateways and probably the server free DASD
space available as well....<g>

> BTW, this is using a deskjet 520 and the omni driver.

Oh nice one  - most important info added almost as an afterthought
....apparently<g>.... but these guessing games do add enormously to the
interest value/challenge, do they (NOT!)?<g>

Seriously though, don't you think it might be a tad more helpful if you
also included the print driver version number, what apps specifically
don't work and presumably what do(as implied).
Even an answer to the more obvious "What OS major release/version and
CSD?" might give us a clue.....
(Sorry! - are we supposed to deduce that from any of your previous
posts?<g>).....
Omni driver as shipped? or some offering from IBM,HP website?
Whether the "apps" are launched directly from same WinOS2 session or
individually from OS/2 desktop....?   .....
What fonts (if any) differences are used tween non/working apps, ATM,TT
enabled etc... ?
Whether Print Manager is enabled and/or routed via LPTx.OS2 and whether
using via IBMNULL printer on OS/2 side  produces same result and/or
switching  to "print specific" in driver setup?
Being a Certified Warp Engineer you would have already explored these
"obvious" basics  (and more) no doubt...... <vbg>....   but in the
absence of any explicit information or hint(other than a CWE merit
badge<g>)  offered to confirm this (probably) dangerous premise, one is
reluctantly compelled to ask .......just in case.....  <g>.

Now let me guess? You had a late (development<vbg>) night? - hard
pressed on the project schedule deadline? - your post was a quick and
dirty throw away while you wrestled with more intellectually stimulating
and technically challenging problems and the last thing you need is a
"smart alec/mouth"? ......  and you don't patiently suffer idiots gladly
anyway?<g>
(I've just gotta be right on at least one of those and be warned as I do
empathise and personally follow the last one in both meanings /
interpretations in context<vbg>).

> Elvish Software Foundry, Inc.                   - Internet: 
drowelf@vnet.net

"Elvish" ? !!? ...   Is it Easter already? - I thought he was "dead"?

> IBM Certified OS/2 Warp Engineer        - IBMLink:   HONE81(ESFISA1)

Hmmm....   Interesting....   yet another COS2WE but with apparently no
recourse to PSS/PS-Assist (but I couldn't possibly utilise my per call
budget on such a trivial question!) or access to RETAIN PMR database 
(is that Hone running on an East Fishgill  A1 machine?) .....
is there  a pattern emerging here or am I missing something obvious?

> IBM Certified OS2/ Warp Developer & Associate Visual Age C++ Developer

I can't wait to see what "visually develops" from this little soire
then... <g>.....

> 'Already where I want to be Today       - Voice/Fax: (281)-398-2625 <-Newe'

Already been there, didn't like it, came back , got the teeshirt, sent
meself a postcard and forgot to frank it!  :-(
--
Rgds Tony W   Email: horseman@ibm.net  -  "Certifiable ex-IBM prat
Rtd".........

"I must not be rude, ....
I must not be rude,and facetious,......
I must not be rude,facetious and pendantic,......
I must not be rude,facetious,pendantic and verbose,...
I must not be rude,facetious,pendantic,verbose and peurile,.....
I must not be rude,facetious,pendantic,verbose, peurile and
blasphemous,.....
I must not.......
I must try a bl**dy sight harder.....  particularly with that damn
illusive and difficult to learn *clairvoyance* skill ? 
....apparently...."       :-(

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From: stinky@ameritech.net                              02-Oct-99 18:15:28
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 21:37:18
Subj: TP760 ELD, E16881$, and Trap 000D

From: stinky@ameritech.net

Ever since I installed FP11, I have been getting Trap 000D errors.

Here's what I get

Exception in device driver: ES16881$
TRAP 000d       ERRCD=0084  ERACC=****  ERLIM=********
EAX=00000084 EBX=Obc70000  ECX=00000093  EDX=00000000
ESI=9bd6001e  EDI=00000275  EBP=0000Reaa  flg=00213246
CS:EIP=1250:000030f4  CSACC=00Ob  CSLIM=00005448
SS:ESP=0030:00004EA6  SSACC=1097  SSLIM=00003fff
DS=1248  DSACC=0093  DSLIM=00002b62  CR0=8001001b
ES=1248  ESACC=0093  ESLIM=00002b62  CR2=ffecb028
FS=0000  FSACC=****  FSLIM=********
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********

The system detected an internal processing error at
location ##0168:fff492de - 000e:c2de
60000, 9084

05860570
Internal revision 9.035, 99/04/01

FYI, it's a Model 760 ELD-U3F, with 72 MB of memory, 810 M hard disk

Thanks,

John

jdserra at ameritech dot net

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From: stinky@ameritech.net                              02-Oct-99 17:56:10
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 21:37:18
Subj: Re: Thinkpad 760 ELD, Warp 4, and External Floppy?

From: stinky@ameritech.net

I managed to install Warp 4 on my TP760 ELD, though it was the least 
desirable solution.

I ended up making 51 diskette images from the Warp 4 CD, an arduous
and boring process.


John

In <dxKI3.61$L3.159@nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech.net>, stinky@ameritech.net
writes:
>Good tip, but not relevant.  The drive is firmly seated on the connector for
the
>external box, and the plug is locked in place on the back of the ThinkPad.
>
>System configuration can see it, and passes diagnostics (including advanced
>diagnostics) with flying colors.
>
>I have the configuration set to look for only floppy drive #2 (the drive
attached
>to the port).  No dice.  Even set it as floppy drive #1 (attached to the
external
>port).  Still nothing.
>
>I'm inclined to think it's a hardware problem, as I can't boot from an
external
>floppy, and Winduhs 95 can see it, but not access it (drive not ready
message).
>
>Regards,
>
>John
>
>In <37f1f8a1.5159947@news.mindspring.com>, jepsr@mindspring.com (James E.
Paschal, Sr.) writes:
>>The only time I got the response:
>>
>>> I get the display of a floppy diskette, with the "Press F1" message.
>>>I do, the floppy activity light goes on, and I get the following message:>
>>>I990305.
>>
>>is when the floppy or cd rom didn't seat properly in the connection.
>>Never used an external floppy though.
>>
>>James E. Paschal, Sr.
>>jepsr-at-mindspring.com (replace at with @)
>
>
>jdserra at ameritech dot net
>


jdserra at ameritech dot net

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From: Frank@get-lost.spam                               02-Oct-99 15:46:23
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 21:37:18
Subj: Re: Can a FixPack be applied pre-install?

From: Frank@get-lost.spam (Frank)

On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:35:28, gmezero@gz.bomb.com (Bryan aka R.I.P.) 
wrote:

> To be more specific...
> 
> Can I copy say, Warp 4 to a HD.
> Apply a fixpack to that install set on the HD
> Then install from that new install set???
> 
Why putting the horse behind the cart ??
Just install and the apply the fixpak.
If you do this with quickfix, there always be a updated copy on your 
hdisk.
If anything goes wrong, just apply it again.

Greeeeeeetings,

frank

The box said:"Requires Windows 95/98, NT or better" .......... So I 
too installed OS/2.


Reply per Email to franklyware@-NOSPAM-beer.com

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From: rdohrenburg@hotmail.com                           02-Oct-99 16:49:23
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 21:37:18
Subj: Help: OS/2 hangs at IBMIDECD.FLT with new cdrom

From: Robert Dohrenburg <rdohrenburg@hotmail.com>

I just replaced my old toshiba ide cdrom with a new toshiba ide
dvd-cdrom ( SD-M1202x/SD-M1212x).

I know that the dvd part is useless under WARP but I was under the
impression that the cdrom part would work. Any way to get WARP to
recognize the new toshiba as a plain cdrom?

TIA.

Robert,

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From: chowell@ibm.net                                   02-Oct-99 13:26:11
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 22:25:16
Subj: Re: WPS install problems

From: Charlene Howell <chowell@ibm.net>


wwoolery@concentric.net wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:45:25, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy
> Donnelly) wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 21:04:00, wwoolery@concentric.net a ?crit dans un
> > message:
> >
> > > I cannot install any software on my WARP4 desktop with the EPFI
> > > install program without getting  the following message:
> > >
> > > EPFIE234:
> > > CANNOT CREATE "X" OBJECT ON THE WORKPLACE SHELL.  THE SETUP PARAMETER
> > > IS ' OBJECTID=<X_FOLDER>'
> > >
> > > WHERE X=THE PARTICULAR PROGRAM'S NAME I'M INSTALLING.
> > >
> > > IS THERE A WORKAROUND/SOLUTION?
> > >
> >
> > 1. Make sure you aren't using 4OS2.
> >
> > 2. Run CHECKINI/C on your system.
> >
> > 3. Turn off the caps lock key a little sooner?
> >
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Buddy
> >
> > Buddy Donnelly
> > donnelly@tampabay.rr.com
> >
> >
> Thanks for the input.
> I ran checkini shortly after posting my question, and it solved all my
> problems.
>
> That's quite a handy program.
>
> Will

 Wow! I never thought I would hear of anyone else with this problem.  I am
having this problem with installing Netscape plug-in pack.  It would install
abt. ahlf way thru then I would get a very similar error msg.

Do I run checkini /c from boot disks?  What do I do to run it?  I can't get
anything to install after installing Netscape. Mostly software choice stuff.
thanks for the great questions and to all wiwth great answers

Char

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     02-Oct-99 21:45:13
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 22:25:16
Subj: Re: OS/2 and Linux:  Errors gallore!

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Sat, 02 Oct 1999 19:45:19 -0400 (EDT), OS/2 Fan wrote:

->Hello all,
->I've got the following system:  AMD K6-2 on Gigabyte GA586S2 mobo
->with SiS 5582 chipset.  DaniS506 driver with the parms 
->BASEDEV=DaniS506.ADD /V /GBM
->and a WD 6.1 GB Caviar drive as primary master in UDMA mode.  I've
->now added a 1.2 Gb slave, told BIOS to not try and use UDMA on the
->slave, just the master, and loaded Linux onto it.  Now when I boot
->OS/2 I get 
->
->SYS 2068
->EXPLANATION: The system had more error messages than could
->be saved to be displayed at the end of system initialization.
->ACTION: Correct the errors for the messages that were
->displayed and restart the system.
->
->What have I done wrong?  If I hit enter a couple times OS/2 boots,
->and it of course cannot see any partitions on the second HD since
->they are linux native and swap so my drive letters are all OK. 
->Appreciate any suggestions; TIA.  Suspect I'm missed something
->obvious...

OS/2 saves all kernel/basedev messages during boot up and issues them all
at once at the end of processing when it is able to do so. If too many
messages are stacked up then some of them are lost. The only thing you can
do is reduce the number of messages produced by removing /V from a few
things.


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: twelker@maui.net                                  02-Oct-99 08:19:25
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Re: USB audio

From: John Twelker <twelker@maui.net>


Lars Mller wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I wonder if anyone tried the new USB audio drivers for Warp 4.
>
> Does it work? Which hardware? Any hints and tips for installation?
>
> Thanx,
>
> Lars
>
> --
>     /\   Dipl.-Ing. Lars Mller

Aloha from Maui,

OS/2 USB Drivers are written to the newer UCHI 1.1 standard which is
fine ...however make sure your MOBO chipset has also the same 1.1
standard. Some chipsets i.e. ALi in many Aptivas, may be 1.0 standard in
which case you'll have problems since the OS/2 USB won't load. Of
course, you can always workaround this condition by buying an USB PCI
I/O card with the newer drivers.  IBM has yet to acknowledge that this
is a "known problem" or defect.

Hope this helps,

Aloha

--
John Twelker
RaceManPro Windsurfing Software, Co-Developer
http://www.ultranet.com/~lefebvre/RaceManPro/

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Still happily running OS/2 Warp 4.0 for the third year ... while we
still have a choice.


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From: barrowcl@flash.net                                03-Oct-99 01:36:14
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Resource Kit for OS/2?

From: "George Barrowcliff" <barrowcl@flash.net>

Does anyone know of a Resource Kit for OS/2 similiar to the Windoze 9X
variety?

Thanks, GWB


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From: jyouells@lifestream.microserve.com                02-Oct-99 23:14:17
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Re: TP760 ELD, E16881$, and Trap 000D

From: John Youells <jyouells@lifestream.microserve.com>

stinky@ameritech.net wrote:

>Ever since I installed FP11, I have been getting Trap 000D errors.
>
>Here's what I get
>
>Exception in device driver: ES16881$
>TRAP 000d       ERRCD=0084  ERACC=****  ERLIM=********
>EAX=00000084 EBX=Obc70000  ECX=00000093  EDX=00000000
>ESI=9bd6001e  EDI=00000275  EBP=0000Reaa  flg=00213246
>CS:EIP=1250:000030f4  CSACC=00Ob  CSLIM=00005448
>SS:ESP=0030:00004EA6  SSACC=1097  SSLIM=00003fff
>DS=1248  DSACC=0093  DSLIM=00002b62  CR0=8001001b
>ES=1248  ESACC=0093  ESLIM=00002b62  CR2=ffecb028
>FS=0000  FSACC=****  FSLIM=********
>GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
>
>The system detected an internal processing error at
>location ##0168:fff492de - 000e:c2de
>60000, 9084
>
>05860570
>Internal revision 9.035, 99/04/01
>
>FYI, it's a Model 760 ELD-U3F, with 72 MB of memory, 810 M hard disk
>
>Thanks,
>
>John
>
>jdserra at ameritech dot net
In the readme.1st file of FP11 (you did read it first right :) (and also fp12
and maybe FP10) 

Quote: 
4.0.4 TRAP IN ES16881$ AFTER FP10 APPLIED

   We do not ship any of the ESS sound card drivers in this Fixpak.  To
   corrrect the problem, get the latest ESS device driver for your card from
   the OS/2 Device Driver Pak online at

   http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/multimed/esstechn


   Do this before you install the FixPak.

Hope this helps 




John Youells
LifeStream Computing

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From: rzimmerm@almaak.usc.edu                           02-Oct-99 13:28:25
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: PM freeze problem after installing Linux

From: rzimmerm@almaak.usc.edu (Roger Zimmermann)

Hi everyone,

I have a strange problem and I am getting really desperate to find a
solution.

The situation is as follows:
Last Friday I tried to install Linux RedHat 6.0 on a partition of my
Dell Dimension XPS R450 system with a 12 GB drive.
I already have Win98 and OS/2 Warp 4, FP11, on it (via Boot Manager).
Before the Linux installation, OS/2 was working very stable for weeks.

 Primary Partition: Boot Manager (7MB)
 Primary Partition: C: Win98 (2GB)
 Extended Partition: D: OS/2 boot (HPFS, 2GB)
 Extended Partition: E: OS/2 data (HPFS, 2GB)
 Extended Partition: G: Fat32, 2GB (drive is G: because of PARTFILT remapping)
 Extended Partition: F: OS/2 scratch (HPFS, 4GB), to be used for Linux

The Linux installation went OK on the F: partition as far as I could tell.
I added Linux to the Boot Manager and was able to boot into all three OSes.

Since then I have this very strange problem with OS/2. I can boot into OS/2, 
work for about 2-3 minutes, and then PM applications such as Netscape
Communicator, Acrobat Reader, etc. freeze. OS/2 windowed command prompts
continue to work but nothing PM related. Shutdown also does not work
anymore after some applications freeze.
The Linux partition used to be HPFS but I had only data on that
partition, no programs and there are no references in config.sys to F:

I have since removed Linux and restored my previous configuration (with
F: being HPFS). I have also removed the Linux entry from the Boot Manager.
I have switched OS/2 to VGA mode (I have a Matrox G200, driver v2.23) and I
have also tried an STB card. I have restored a backup of my OS/2 system
disk (D:) from two weeks ago. I have also tried to clean up my OS2.INI and
OS2SYS.INI files.

The result remains the same: PM applications freeze after about 2-3 minutes.
As far as I can tell, I am back to were I started with my configuration,
but the problem remains. Also, the problem seems to be strangely time (and
not individual application) related. There are no error messages.
I don't think it is a hardware problem since Win98 still works fine and
OS/2 also works with non-PM applications.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
I really hope I don't need to start from scratch (because it seems that
even restoring system backups do not help).

Regards,
Roger

rzimmerm@imsc.usc.edu

-- 
_________
Roger Zimmermann, University of Southern California, Los Angeles
rzimmerm@almaak.usc.edu
http://perspolis.usc.edu/Users/zimmerma

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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    03-Oct-99 03:05:21
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Re: Help: OS/2 hangs at IBMIDECD.FLT with new cdrom

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

Robert Dohrenburg (rdohrenburg@hotmail.com) wrote:
: I just replaced my old toshiba ide cdrom with a new toshiba ide
: dvd-cdrom ( SD-M1202x/SD-M1212x).

	What is the file size and date of the IBMIDECD.FLT that you have?


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From: Girls Girls Girls Agency                          02-Oct-99 18:06:05
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: XFREE86 3.3.5 lost shell

From: "www.girlsagent.com" <Girls Girls Girls Agency>

I installed Xfree 3.3.5 over my 3.3.1 and now when I do startx i get the
initial grey screen but then it hangs and the bash shell won't come up. Is
there something i need to reconfigure. the log file shows that it was loaded
OK but I just don't get a shell to operate with.


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From: monroej7@pilot.msu.edu                            02-Oct-99 22:42:27
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Re: Resource Kit for OS/2?

From: "Jason Monroe" <monroej7@pilot.msu.edu>

Yeah if there is one I would love to know about it.  That has been my
biggest frustration with OS/2 is its seeming lack of documentation.

Jason

George Barrowcliff <barrowcl@flash.net> wrote in message
news:xqyJ3.846$0l6.1956@news.flash.net...
> Does anyone know of a Resource Kit for OS/2 similiar to the Windoze 9X
> variety?
>
> Thanks, GWB
>
>


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From: norrisg@linkline.com                              02-Oct-99 21:49:01
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Re: Resource Kit for OS/2?

From: "Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com>

George Barrowcliff wrote:
> Does anyone know of a Resource Kit for OS/2 similiar to the Windoze 9X
> variety?

There are two related things. First is the IBM Developer Connection
which includes OS/2 toolkits etc. and a whole ton of stuff you probably
don't want, including, believe it or not, stuff for Windoze. The second
is the Device Driver Kit which is exclusively OS/2.

The former is at: http://www.developer.ibm.com/devcon/titlepg.htm
the latter is at: http://service.software.ibm.com/ddk

Devcon is partially are free, the DDK is completely free, however both
require registration, and the free bits of DevCon, while they list
everything may not contain everything you need, you may need to pay for
an Advanced online subscription.

Graham.

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From: dropThis.DenverD@ibm.net                          03-Oct-99 06:02:11
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: mouse jerks

From: dropThis.DenverD@ibm.net (DenverD )

sometimes my mouse pointer stops following the movement being made
with the mouse itself, and then suddenly will jump to its correct
position (unlike when the mouse needs cleaning it just stops)..

other times, while moving the mouse there is given and uncommanded
left mouse click...because sometimes things open just as I move the
mouse across the top of its launch button...

other times, there is this strange interaction with PMMail..usually it
begins when a new mail is opened, there will be a rectangular cursor
block in the text field (like when you have "insert" selected) but the
you can see the pixels in the cursor block being refreshed....the cpu
meter goes to 100%, and on screen mouse movement compared to how fast
the mouse is being moved is about 10 times slower than normal..after a
minute or two everything returns to normal..

its a three button logitec running the warp driver and Gibbon Double
Click (to drive the middle button)...okay, so it worked great for a
couple of years..

I suspect some strange interaction with SpellGuard, WatchCat, PMMail
(and/or what?).. 

anyone else see this..

--
DenverD AT ibm DOT net

CAUTION: All addresses are anti-spam spoofs.
you gotta fix'em up to mail me...sorry!

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From: j.welton@mailcity.com                             02-Oct-99 22:55:11
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: I need help - please

From: Jeff Welton <j.welton@mailcity.com>

I'm no OS/2 expert by any means.  I had a great little
running system up until I installed the preview release
of SciTech Display Doctor.  I was just curious and wondering
what it was.

The thing really screwed me up.  My screen went haywire
and I had a heck of a time getting to the directory to 
uninstall it.  When I did and rebooted I came back to a
800X600 VGA screen.  I was at 1024X768 resolution.  It uses
the S3 Trio drivers.

As I say, I don't know all the tech terms but the SDD readme
said I would have to resinstall the S3 drivers. (Note here to
SDD people:  you gotta fix that.  You gotta return my system
to what it was if your SDD program doesn't work.  I had a
hell of a time today and I'm still struggling here.) I didn't know
where to look or how to get to them.  I tried selective install
hoping maybe I could get the driver from the Warp CD but 
it kept saying it couldn't figure out my hardware.  I tried
the Device Driver Install method but again, it said it couldn't
figure out my hardware.  I don't know why, when I got this
machine I just reformatted the hard drive and OS/2 installed
beautifully.  So I went to the IBM softare update  place and 
looked around.  I saw and installed the Device Driver Fixpak 
1 and crossed my fingers.

BIG mistake.  My CD disappeared from my drive and I couldn't
get to it from a prompt either.  Worse: every time I clicked on 
an icon or tried to do anything on the system my hard drive
would make a click sound, then a whirrr and finally the action
would take place.  Like this:  open a prompt and I'd get a
slow click, a slow whirr and wait... then the prompt window 
would show up.  Click on an Icon to open a program and
get the same action.  I figured whatever was in that DD fixpak 
was  a mistake to install.  My hard drive seemed to shut off and
everytime I needed to perform an action it had to start up again.  

The only thing I could think of to do was to reinstall
OS/2 all over again.  What a total headache.  BUT, at least
I got my high resolution screen back and figured it was
just a matter of downloading and reinstalling everything
all over again.  I went to the update site and installed
the RSU, started the FP12 download.  That took most of
the afternoon and after reboot I got a trap error that
said something about my ESS1688 driver.  I kept plugging
away but still got that trap error.  

Ok.  I reintalled OS/2 again.  This time I downloaded the
Comm 4.61 and tried to install it but got an error saying
I had to have at least FP5 on my system.  Back to the
update site.  I figured I'd try at least FP5 but it isn't there.
Just FP12 and FP11.  I didn't have good luck with FP11 
so I'm sort of stuck.  I did find Netscape v2.02 and installed
it and it does work (I'm using it now).

I've been at this since 8am this morning and it is near 11pm.
What a wasted weekend (and I don't get too many of them
free as it is!)

Here's what I think so far:  I think I may need to update my
ESS sound driver.  Maybe that's the hangup with the FP12.
Maybe that updated sound driver is in the DDFixPak but I'm
too leery of going through that whole install procedure again.  
Maybe I'll just look for the latest ESS sound driver and install
it manually.

And maybe my hard drive is fainally giving out on me.  I got this
great machine from an older friend.  It came with a six gig hard 
drive and I've had it about a year.  Its never given me a lick of
trouble but the machine is about five years old.  That click,
whirr business makes me think the drive is going.  But I know
squat about hardware.  

All I can say is, I've made it back this far and it has taken some
15 hours and I'm no where near having the great system I had
when I woke up this morning.  I'm at Warp 4 with NS/2.  No
Java, no system updates, but I am running!

I think I'll try updating my ESS driver then installing FP12 using
the fastkick method so I can back it out.  If I use the RSU 
method and end up with a trap error, I can't get back on the
'Net to use the RSU backout program!  Arghhhh!!!

Any advice or guidence here would be helpful.  Speak up.  If
you have any better ideas on what that click/whir I'd like to 
hear it.  If I have to get a new drive are they expensive?

I NEVER want to go through another OS/2 install again.  It
ain't easy.

Thanks for reading.

Jeff

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From: stinky@ameritech.net                              03-Oct-99 09:16:16
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 10:24:09
Subj: Re: TP760 ELD, ES16881$, and Trap 000D

From: stinky@ameritech.net

Hello again!

I re-installed OS/2, this time using only FP10, and got the same
result.

I used the ES1688 driver pack from the ESS web site, which is
at the same revision level as the drivers from the IBM Device
Driver Pack Online site. (1.03 for AudioDrive).

Has anyone else experienced this problem?  It seems as though my options
are limited to running without any sort of fixpak but have sound, or run with
a fixpak but play in silence.  



In <wZrJ3.3242$L3.793@nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech.net>, stinky@ameritech.net
writes:
>Ever since I installed FP11, I have been getting Trap 000D errors.
>
>Here's what I get
>
>Exception in device driver: ES16881$
>TRAP 000d       ERRCD=0084  ERACC=****  ERLIM=********
>EAX=00000084 EBX=Obc70000  ECX=00000093  EDX=00000000
>ESI=9bd6001e  EDI=00000275  EBP=0000Reaa  flg=00213246
>CS:EIP=1250:000030f4  CSACC=00Ob  CSLIM=00005448
>SS:ESP=0030:00004EA6  SSACC=1097  SSLIM=00003fff
>DS=1248  DSACC=0093  DSLIM=00002b62  CR0=8001001b
>ES=1248  ESACC=0093  ESLIM=00002b62  CR2=ffecb028
>FS=0000  FSACC=****  FSLIM=********
>GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
>
>The system detected an internal processing error at
>location ##0168:fff492de - 000e:c2de
>60000, 9084
>
>05860570
>Internal revision 9.035, 99/04/01
>
>FYI, it's a Model 760 ELD-U3F, with 72 MB of memory, 810 M hard disk
>
>Thanks,
>
>John
>
>jdserra at ameritech dot net
>


jdserra at ameritech dot net

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From: rdohrenburg@hotmail.com                           02-Oct-99 23:07:29
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 10:24:09
Subj: Re: Help: OS/2 hangs at IBMIDECD.FLT with new cdrom

From: Robert Dohrenburg <rdohrenburg@hotmail.com>

John Hong wrote:
> 
> Robert Dohrenburg (rdohrenburg@hotmail.com) wrote:
> : I just replaced my old toshiba ide cdrom with a new toshiba ide
> : dvd-cdrom ( SD-M1202x/SD-M1212x).
> 
>         What is the file size and date of the IBMIDECD.FLT that you have?

Thanks for the reply.

I found a/the solution? If I set the dvd-cdrom as a master ( secondary
controller ) the system hangs, setting the dvd as a slave everything
works fine. I wonder if this is a bug in the ibm1s506 driver.

BTW the size and date of the file is 24136 1998/09/30 21:14:00
IBMIDECD.FLT From FixPack12

Thanks again.

Robert,

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 02-Oct-99 22:43:26
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 10:24:09
Subj: Re: Resource Kit for OS/2?

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.setup.misc, "George Barrowcliff" <barrowcl@flash.net>
spake unto us, saying:

>Does anyone know of a Resource Kit for OS/2 similiar to the Windoze 9X
>variety?

We might know of something similar.  What does a "Resource Kit" do?

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                   Hi!  I'm a tagline virus!  Copy me!

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From: janswa@algonet.se                                 03-Oct-99 09:26:11
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 19:48:20
Subj: Re: Can a FixPack be applied pre-install?

From: janswa@algonet.se (Jan Swartling)

On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:35:28, gmezero@gz.bomb.com (Bryan aka R.I.P.) 
wrote:

> To be more specific...
> 
> Can I copy say, Warp 4 to a HD.
> Apply a fixpack to that install set on the HD
> Then install from that new install set???
> 

One way to do it is to first install the base Warp 4 then apply the 
fixpack. After you verified that all thing work as expected and after you 
have made any necessary configuration changes, use Drive Image from 
Powerquest which will give you an exact image of the installation, 
including all settings, allocation tables and boot records. You can then 
use the image that Drive Image produced as a backup or to clone other 
workstations. Checkout Drive Image at www.powerquest.com

Jan Swartling 
  Blue Soft
  www.bluesoft.se


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From: pfitzsim@home.com                                 03-Oct-99 09:51:08
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 19:48:20
Subj: PCI Sound card for OS/2?  Yes! but the drivers suck...

From: Peter Fitzsimmons <pfitzsim@home.com>

I just bought a Crystal CS4280 based card ($9.95us mail order :).

It's one step better than the Creative Labs PCI12* I got tricked into
buying for $55cdn (no os/2 support at all; but works fantastic under win
98/nt).

The crystal card/drivers work great under NT, poorly under OS/2, and
dismally under Win98.

Under OS/2 (warp 4.5) "DART" programs (like MP3 players) play at double
speed 1/2 the time (skipping every other frame),  and the midi support
is a joke.

My old SB16 non-pnp card worked better,  but required an ISA slot.

If you're really desperate to free up an ISA slot, you might try a
CS4280 based card.

This is the one I bought: 

 http://www.axiontech.com/cgi-local/noinfo.asp?sogncrs4280


and don't be fooled by all the talk about "3d" and "wavetable". These
can only be implemented with software (poorly) with this card.

-- 
Peter Fitzsimmons,      Toronto Canada.
email:pfitz@ican.net    Voice: 905-858-3222

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From: j.welton@mailcity.com                             03-Oct-99 10:48:00
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 19:48:20
Subj: How do I recover from a bad FP?

From: Jeff Welton <j.welton@mailcity.com>

Ok.  It is a new day and I'm trying again.

I need to upgrade to a FP higher than FP5 so I can install
Communicator for OS/2 and the only FPs IBM now offers 
is FP11 and 12 so sense I already have the FP12 files
from yesterday's failed RSU attempt, I'll try it again using 
the Fastkick method but only if I can back it out if it too fails.  

I'll try the Fastkick method.  The RSU method left me 
with a trap error on reboot that pointed to my ESS1688 
driver as being the problem.  

I went to the ESSTech.com site and downloaded their
latest release and used their install procedure to update
my driver. Hopefully it worked.

I still have all the FP12 files on my system using Fastkick
because if I use the RSU method and reboot to the same 
or another trap error I can't get my system back to a 
previous level (without reinstalling OS/2 all over again).
I think that is so stupid.  IBM should give you a way to
boot up from your install disks and get to a prompt then
offer an Uninstall procedure from there but I can't find
one!

The IBM site does offer an online program to back out a FP
but if you can't get your system back to get back online
you're system is effectly dead.  So when you spend weeks
installing all your programs, honing your system so it works
better than anything you've ever seen and then end up 
with a failed FP - it is exasperating.  Your only option is to
start all over again and reinstall OS/2.  That is not fun.
It took me the entire day yesterday and this morning I
have 1/3 the system I had on Friday, before the failed FP
install.

Here's my question:  If FP12 fails again and gives me a trap
error after using Fastkick how do I remove it?  The readme 
has a bunch of stuff on what to do if you have problems
installing FP12 but I don't find information that says "if your
system won't come back from a reboot, use your utility
disks to get to an OS/2 prompt and run the Fastkick uninstall
program.  Does Fastkick have such a beast?

If it doesn't is there any manual method I can use that will
allow me to remove a failed FP?

Thanks for any help.

Jeff

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     03-Oct-99 19:39:28
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 19:48:20
Subj: Re: How do I recover from a bad FP?

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Sun, 03 Oct 1999 10:48:00 -0700, Jeff Welton wrote:

->If FP12 fails again and gives me a trap
->error after using Fastkick how do I remove it?

Boot up using Alt+F1 at the boot blob, hit F2 to go to a command prompt
and use TEDIT to REM out the line for the ESS audio driver. Before you do
this check \os2\boot\config.x to make sure that the same driver is not
being referenced there (it's the CONFIG.SYS used for this sort of boot).
Now you can boot up and run FP12 without sound or back it out, whichever
you prefer.


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               03-Oct-99 14:53:03
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 19:48:20
Subj: Re: How do I recover from a bad FP?

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

Jeff Welton wrote:

> Trevor Hemsley wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 03 Oct 1999 10:48:00 -0700, Jeff Welton wrote:
> >
> > ->If FP12 fails again and gives me a trap
> > ->error after using Fastkick how do I remove it?
> >
> > Boot up using Alt+F1 at the boot blob, hit F2 to go to a command prompt
> > and use TEDIT to REM out the line for the ESS audio driver. Before you do
> > this check \os2\boot\config.x to make sure that the same driver is not
> > being referenced there (it's the CONFIG.SYS used for this sort of boot).
> > Now you can boot up and run FP12 without sound or back it out, whichever
> > you prefer.
> >
> > Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
> > (Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
>
> Thank you.  I finally gave up and reinstalled OS/2.
> I still have the FP12 files on my system and I've
> since updated my ESS driver.  I really don't want
> to go through the whole process of the FP12 again
> but I may give it a try this afternoon.
>
> Jeff

Jeff,

email me and I'll work with you.  Together we should
be able to get your system back to what it was prior
to the reinstall.

Tim...


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From: gasparetto@gbsw.REMOVE.TO.REPLY.net               03-Oct-99 13:39:08
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:25
Subj: Re: TP760 ELD, E16881$, and Trap 000D

From: gasparetto@gbsw.REMOVE.TO.REPLY.net (Sandro Gasparetto)

In message <wZrJ3.3242$L3.793@nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech.net> -
stinky@ameritech.net writes:
:>
:>Ever since I installed FP11, I have been getting Trap 000D errors.
:>
:>Exception in device driver: ES16881$

I Know this trap .....
The only solution is :
1 - rem-out the Ess driver - Boot
2 - reinstall the MMos2
3 - reinstall the Ess driver.
4 - save the directory MMOS2, you might need it in the future !

It looks like the fixpack breaks the Ess support :-((



CETERUM CENSEO FENESTRAS ESSE DELENDAS
gasparetto@gbsw.net   http://gbsw.net   ICQ# 5794439

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From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com                              03-Oct-99 13:52:05
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:25
Subj: Re: TP760 ELD, ES16881$, and Trap 000D

From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com

In <Q9FJ3.5598$L3.866@nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech.net>, stinky@ameritech.net
writes:
>Hello again!
>
>I re-installed OS/2, this time using only FP10, and got the same
>result.
>
>I used the ES1688 driver pack from the ESS web site, which is
>at the same revision level as the drivers from the IBM Device
>Driver Pack Online site. (1.03 for AudioDrive).
>
>Has anyone else experienced this problem?  It seems as though my options
>are limited to running without any sort of fixpak but have sound, or run with
>a fixpak but play in silence.  
>
>
>
>In <wZrJ3.3242$L3.793@nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech.net>, stinky@ameritech.net
writes:
>>Ever since I installed FP11, I have been getting Trap 000D errors.
>>
>>Here's what I get
>>
>>Exception in device driver: ES16881$
>>TRAP 000d       ERRCD=0084  ERACC=****  ERLIM=********
>>EAX=00000084 EBX=Obc70000  ECX=00000093  EDX=00000000
>>ESI=9bd6001e  EDI=00000275  EBP=0000Reaa  flg=00213246
>>CS:EIP=1250:000030f4  CSACC=00Ob  CSLIM=00005448
>>SS:ESP=0030:00004EA6  SSACC=1097  SSLIM=00003fff
>>DS=1248  DSACC=0093  DSLIM=00002b62  CR0=8001001b
>>ES=1248  ESACC=0093  ESLIM=00002b62  CR2=ffecb028
>>FS=0000  FSACC=****  FSLIM=********
>>GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
>>
>>The system detected an internal processing error at
>>location ##0168:fff492de - 000e:c2de
>>60000, 9084
>>
>>05860570
>>Internal revision 9.035, 99/04/01
>>
>>FYI, it's a Model 760 ELD-U3F, with 72 MB of memory, 810 M hard disk
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>John
>>

Here is what I did to recover:

Use the utility disk to boot to the os/2 full screen command prompt.
Edit the config.sys and rem out references to the ess drivers.
Then reboot the system as normal.
Get the ess driver from the ibm site as described in the readme.
Install it (minstall).

Things should be back to normal. I recommend remming out references
to the 1688 driver before installing fixpaks above 9. Then reinstall
the driver after the fixpak is applied.

Don't understand why this problem is occuring with this specific driver.


Keith Cotroneo
cotroneo@stny.rr.com

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 29-Sep-99 18:54:06
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:25
Subj: Re: rubbish on os2 prompt!

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

Terence Cheng <terence@nikoyo.com> wrote:

>    After I install the NeoMagic drive on my notebook that running
>simplify chinese os2 warp 4.0, I can change the resolution to 1024x768.
>However, when I use the os2 prompt or dos prompt, the system message
>change to rubbish. For example, after I type dir, the harddisk size,
>free space will change to rubbish. I guess it is because of the fonts
>file doesn't support that size, but I don't know how to fix it.
>    Could anyone tell me how to fix it?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Terence


A wild guess -- change to a lower resolution?

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: stinky@ameritech.net                              04-Oct-99 00:17:01
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:25
Subj: Re: TP760 ELD, ES16881$, and Trap 000D

From: stinky@ameritech.net

Thanks for the tip.  In fact, that's exactly what I did.  Still, I get the 
traps.

What I'll probably do is re-install OS/2, and install only FP9 (and leave
it there), as FP10 and above seem to break the ES1688 driver.

Regards,

John


In <fcJJ3.2979$56.151980@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, cotroneo@stny.rr.com writes:
>In <Q9FJ3.5598$L3.866@nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech.net>, stinky@ameritech.net
writes:
>>Hello again!
>>
>>I re-installed OS/2, this time using only FP10, and got the same
>>result.
>>
>>I used the ES1688 driver pack from the ESS web site, which is
>>at the same revision level as the drivers from the IBM Device
>>Driver Pack Online site. (1.03 for AudioDrive).
>>
>>Has anyone else experienced this problem?  It seems as though my options
>>are limited to running without any sort of fixpak but have sound, or run
with
>>a fixpak but play in silence.  
>>

>
>Here is what I did to recover:
>
>Use the utility disk to boot to the os/2 full screen command prompt.
>Edit the config.sys and rem out references to the ess drivers.
>Then reboot the system as normal.
>Get the ess driver from the ibm site as described in the readme.
>Install it (minstall).
>
>Things should be back to normal. I recommend remming out references
>to the 1688 driver before installing fixpaks above 9. Then reinstall
>the driver after the fixpak is applied.
>
>Don't understand why this problem is occuring with this specific driver.
>
>
>Keith Cotroneo
>cotroneo@stny.rr.com
>


jdserra at ameritech dot net

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From: j.welton@mailcity.com                             03-Oct-99 13:20:24
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:25
Subj: Re: How do I recover from a bad FP?

From: Jeff Welton <j.welton@mailcity.com>

Trevor Hemsley wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 03 Oct 1999 10:48:00 -0700, Jeff Welton wrote:
> 
> ->If FP12 fails again and gives me a trap
> ->error after using Fastkick how do I remove it?
> 
> Boot up using Alt+F1 at the boot blob, hit F2 to go to a command prompt
> and use TEDIT to REM out the line for the ESS audio driver. Before you do
> this check \os2\boot\config.x to make sure that the same driver is not
> being referenced there (it's the CONFIG.SYS used for this sort of boot).
> Now you can boot up and run FP12 without sound or back it out, whichever
> you prefer.
> 
> Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
> (Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)

Thank you.  I finally gave up and reinstalled OS/2.
I still have the FP12 files on my system and I've 
since updated my ESS driver.  I really don't want
to go through the whole process of the FP12 again
but I may give it a try this afternoon.

Jeff

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From: jnichols@tcia.net                                 03-Oct-99 19:44:04
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:25
Subj: CDW6416SZ

From: jnichols@tcia.net

I have sense found my problem it was a little deeper
in the manual.   

>  After installing the RSJ Demo it's turned in to a worm and  I can't fine
>it.  Would someone please give me a hand.

Later,
Nick

-- 
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From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk                           03-Oct-99 18:48:02
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:25
Subj: Adding NT safely to a Warp 4 machine

From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston)

For work reasoons I need to add Windows NT4 to my Warp 4 machine. I would
be grateful for advice as to how to do this as safely as possible...

I have

* A SCSI HD with a Boot Manager partition      1MB
                   Primary HPFS partition (C:) 1GB
                   Logical HPFS partition (D:) 2GB
                   Free space                  6GB

* A SCSI HD with   Free space                  1GB

What I am thinking of doing is

1) Creating another primary partition on the first HD (should I use
   Fdisk or the NT install stuff to do this?)

2) Installing NT on this

3) Reactivating the Boot manager following directions in the NT install
   handbook.

I am worried about making sure NT installs on the "right" primary partition,
and doesn't scribble all over Warp.

All advice and help gratefully received!

Ian

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From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com                              04-Oct-99 01:06:02
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: TP760 ELD, ES16881$, and Trap 000D

From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com

In <2mSJ3.7169$L3.908@nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech.net>, stinky@ameritech.net
writes:
>Thanks for the tip.  In fact, that's exactly what I did.  Still, I get the 
>traps.
>
>What I'll probably do is re-install OS/2, and install only FP9 (and leave
>it there), as FP10 and above seem to break the ES1688 driver.
>
>Regards,
>
>John
>
>
>In <fcJJ3.2979$56.151980@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, cotroneo@stny.rr.com writes:
>>In <Q9FJ3.5598$L3.866@nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech.net>, stinky@ameritech.net
writes:
>>>Hello again!
>>>
>>>I re-installed OS/2, this time using only FP10, and got the same
>>>result.
>>>
>>>I used the ES1688 driver pack from the ESS web site, which is
>>>at the same revision level as the drivers from the IBM Device
>>>Driver Pack Online site. (1.03 for AudioDrive).
>>>
>>>Has anyone else experienced this problem?  It seems as though my options
>>>are limited to running without any sort of fixpak but have sound, or run
with
>>>a fixpak but play in silence.  
>>>
>
>>
>>Here is what I did to recover:
>>
>>Use the utility disk to boot to the os/2 full screen command prompt.
>>Edit the config.sys and rem out references to the ess drivers.
>>Then reboot the system as normal.
>>Get the ess driver from the ibm site as described in the readme.
>>Install it (minstall).
>>
>>Things should be back to normal. I recommend remming out references
>>to the 1688 driver before installing fixpaks above 9. Then reinstall
>>the driver after the fixpak is applied.
>>
>>Don't understand why this problem is occuring with this specific driver.
>>
>>
>>Keith Cotroneo
>>cotroneo@stny.rr.com
>>
>
>
>jdserra at ameritech dot net
>

Instead of re-installing os/2, try just re-installing multimedia support.
Use selective install.


Keith Cotroneo
cotroneo@stny.rr.com

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 03-Oct-99 12:23:25
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: New monitor questions

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

I think I need a new monitor -- partly thanks to this superb
new Netscape, nowadays I'm apt to have 4-5 browser windows
open along with a dozen folders, not to mention the standard
retinue of apps.  I'm running out of screen real estate.

So, I went to Office Max yesterday afternoon to look at a
few.  What I've got right now is your basic 14" Sony
(Multiscan 100ES) being driven by a Matrox Mystique with 4
meg onboard, running 1024x768 at 85 Hz.  The Sony does the
APM thing quite nicely with Staffan Ulfberg's blackout
program.

Here's what I'm looking at:  

* KDS US-TE: 16" viewable, .27mm dot pitch. max resolution
1280x1024 60 Hz refresh rate ($220)

* Phillips 19" (18" viewable) .26mm dot pitch, max rez
1600x1200, 75 HZ refresh rate ($300)

* Provia PX982 (I think, now I can't read my handwriting),
19" (17.9" viewable) .026 dot pitch (!??) ($400)

Of the three, the last one looked the best, plus it had an
"approved for low radiation in Sweden" sticker on the top. 
But, both that and the Phillips are sorta big for my desk,
not to mention my wallet.

What I'm wondering is this: anyone else who's made this
sort of a switch -- is going from 14" to 16" viewable a
substantial change, or will I be frustrated?  How important
is the refresh rate?  And where's the tradeoff between
granularity, color depth, and refresh rate?  That is, if I
do get one of these things, will I now be able to run
1280X1024x16777216 (would I want to?) at the speed of light,
or will the Matrox be what constrains me?

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: fat_ox@hotmail.com                                03-Oct-99 19:49:29
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: New monitor questions

From: "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com>

Hi Ray,
	I went from a 14" Princeton to a 17" Optiquest V775 using a 4
MB Mystique 220 PCI.  The difference was well worth it IMO.  I run at
1280X1024, true color, at 75 MHz refresh and am very satisfied.  The
card will do 1600X1200, but my monitor only goes to 66 MHz refresh at
that resolution, and it's simply too jittery for comfort. 
Furthermore, I found the text to be far too small at that resolution
anyway.  If you go to 19" though you should be able to pull off
1600X1200.  However, at what I'm at, I've written a dissertation,
worked day-in, day-out for a year and a half, and now waste my time
online in absolute comfort.  Your card will do OK IMO (check the
manual and it'll tell you how high refresh can be at 1280X1024 and at
1600X1200; look for 75 MHz minimum, 85+ even better if you go
1600X1200).  Get a monitor with high refresh rates and check it out
at the store well beforehand, at the resolution you plan on using. 
Oh, and don't try to put it on the motorcycle to take it home... 
Happy shopping!
Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan
	
Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, 
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, 
and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.  


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From: fat_ox@hotmail.com                                03-Oct-99 19:54:01
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: New monitor questions

From: "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com>

Oops!  Refresh rates are in Hz, not MHz, of course...  Also, I forgot
to mention that the manual for the Mystique 220 PCI states that at
1600X1280 it can do up to 80 Hz and up to 100 Hz at 1280X1024.  I've
not gotten more than 66 and 75 due to my monitor, like I said.  Say,
what drivers are you using for the Matrox?

Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan
	
Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, 
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, 
and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.  


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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    03-Oct-99 17:11:11
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: Help: OS/2 hangs at IBMIDECD.FLT with new cdrom

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

Robert Dohrenburg (rdohrenburg@hotmail.com) wrote:

: I found a/the solution? If I set the dvd-cdrom as a master ( secondary
: controller ) the system hangs, setting the dvd as a slave everything
: works fine. I wonder if this is a bug in the ibm1s506 driver.

	Interesting...  What filesize and date of the IBM1S506 driver are 
you using?

: BTW the size and date of the file is 24136 1998/09/30 21:14:00
: IBMIDECD.FLT From FixPack12

	1998 did you say?  The latest driver for that and IBM1S506 is 
found in the DDPak_01.  Both should be dated to July of 1999.


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From: kahnt@adan.kingston.net                           03-Oct-99 13:24:21
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: New monitor questions

From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <kahnt@adan.kingston.net>

Raphael Tennenbaum wrote:
> 
> I think I need a new monitor -- partly thanks to this superb
> new Netscape, nowadays I'm apt to have 4-5 browser windows
> open along with a dozen folders, not to mention the standard
> retinue of apps.  I'm running out of screen real estate.
> 
> So, I went to Office Max yesterday afternoon to look at a
> few.  What I've got right now is your basic 14" Sony
> (Multiscan 100ES) being driven by a Matrox Mystique with 4
> meg onboard, running 1024x768 at 85 Hz.  The Sony does the
> APM thing quite nicely with Staffan Ulfberg's blackout
> program.
> 
> Here's what I'm looking at:
> 
> * KDS US-TE: 16" viewable, .27mm dot pitch. max resolution
> 1280x1024 60 Hz refresh rate ($220)
> 
> * Phillips 19" (18" viewable) .26mm dot pitch, max rez
> 1600x1200, 75 HZ refresh rate ($300)
> 
> * Provia PX982 (I think, now I can't read my handwriting),
> 19" (17.9" viewable) .026 dot pitch (!??) ($400)
> 
> Of the three, the last one looked the best, plus it had an
> "approved for low radiation in Sweden" sticker on the top.
> But, both that and the Phillips are sorta big for my desk,
> not to mention my wallet.
> 
> What I'm wondering is this: anyone else who's made this
> sort of a switch -- is going from 14" to 16" viewable a
> substantial change, or will I be frustrated?  How important
> is the refresh rate?  And where's the tradeoff between
> granularity, color depth, and refresh rate?  That is, if I
> do get one of these things, will I now be able to run
> 1280X1024x16777216 (would I want to?) at the speed of light,
> or will the Matrox be what constrains me?
> 
> --
> Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
> readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

I've worked with monitors of sizes from 12" to 21", and the main result
that I've seen is that whatever size monitor you get, chances are you
will maximise the main window you are working with to put the most info
on screen or to permit yourself to zoom in far more. Having said that,
you would most want a fast graphic card with scads of top speed memory
on it, as this is what gives you the clarity and additional screen real
estate. 1600x1200x16777216 would be a "2 page full colour" display,
requiring 8MB on the graphics card and providing the ability to display
2 pages of information cleanly side by side on the screen. If your
productivity is improved by this much greater clarity and screen room,
it is very quickly capable of paying for the price difference between a
smaller and a larger monitor.

My first large monitor, a 19" NEC Multisync xl, was driven by a (get
this) 256KB Super VGA card. When I first sat down at it, the VGA driver
had been installed, so on this behemoth, I was getting 640x480x16
colours! I upped it to 800x600x16, but it wasn't until I replaced the
512KB graphic card in my home system with a 1MB card and took the 512KB
card into work to replace the 256KB one that I had a faintly passable
resolution for that size screen (1024x768x16). I joked for a few years
after that how I was having to provide computer parts to my then
employer so that I could do my job. ;) When the 19" monitor was retired
after 7 years and noticeable burn-in effects, I ended up with a Compaq
21" and a 4 MB graphic card - finally True Colour at 1024x768.
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From: lazaga1@attglobal.net                             03-Oct-99 13:05:07
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: New monitor questions

From: Paul Lazaga <lazaga1@attglobal.net>


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 10-3-99, 4:23:50 PM, raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael 
Tennenbaum) wrote regarding New monitor questions:


> I think I need a new monitor -- partly thanks to this superb
> new Netscape, nowadays I'm apt to have 4-5 browser windows
> open along with a dozen folders, not to mention the standard
> retinue of apps.  I'm running out of screen real estate.

> So, I went to Office Max yesterday afternoon to look at a
> few.  What I've got right now is your basic 14" Sony
> (Multiscan 100ES) being driven by a Matrox Mystique with 4
> meg onboard, running 1024x768 at 85 Hz.  The Sony does the
> APM thing quite nicely with Staffan Ulfberg's blackout
> program.

> Here's what I'm looking at:

> * KDS US-TE: 16" viewable, .27mm dot pitch. max resolution
> 1280x1024 60 Hz refresh rate ($220)

> * Phillips 19" (18" viewable) .26mm dot pitch, max rez
> 1600x1200, 75 HZ refresh rate ($300)

> * Provia PX982 (I think, now I can't read my handwriting),
> 19" (17.9" viewable) .026 dot pitch (!??) ($400)

> Of the three, the last one looked the best, plus it had an
> "approved for low radiation in Sweden" sticker on the top.
> But, both that and the Phillips are sorta big for my desk,
> not to mention my wallet.

> What I'm wondering is this: anyone else who's made this
> sort of a switch -- is going from 14" to 16" viewable a
> substantial change, or will I be frustrated?  How important
> is the refresh rate?  And where's the tradeoff between
> granularity, color depth, and refresh rate?  That is, if I
> do get one of these things, will I now be able to run
> 1280X1024x16777216 (would I want to?) at the speed of light,
> or will the Matrox be what constrains me?

> --
> Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
> readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

Once you use a larger monitor you will never be able to go back to the 
smaller one.  I personally use a Kleer K7, .28mm (sell them too) with 
a Matrox Millineum II 8MB set at 75Hz with the SDD driver.  Works well 
at 1280x1024x65K.  I think the 16M color is a bit of an overkill, at 
least my eyes have never been able to tell the difference.  The change 
from 60Hz to 75Hz definitely is easier on the eyes if you start at 
these things all day.

-- 
Paul Lazaga, eMail: lazaga1@attglobal.net
WTW Group, Los Gatos, California, USA
Tel: 408-378-8636, Fax: 408-378-5927
Web: http://www.wtwgroup.com



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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    04-Oct-99 00:16:01
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: i810?

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

	I noticed that there are i810 video drivers for OS/2 but what 
about the sound?  For those that do not know, i810 is a chipset from 
Intel that has both sound and video integrated.  Not like the Cyrix 
MediaGX that had the sound and video run from the CPU, instead it is the 
motherboard chipset that handles it.  Better idea, at least it sounds 
like it.  That way the CPU isn't responsible for everything.


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From: fat_ox@hotmail.com                                03-Oct-99 19:42:11
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: OS/2 and Linux:  Errors gallore!

From: "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com>

Thanks Trevor, I've done what you said, removed the /V parm from
DaniS506, and I boot straight up now.  Tell me though, I'm still
getting the errors, I'm simply not seeing them, right?  Could it be
that DaniS506 is having trouble with my slave HD?  I've little
experience in these matters...  Thanks again for your help!


On Sat, 02 Oct 1999 21:45:27 +0100 (BST), Trevor Hemsley wrote:

>On Sat, 02 Oct 1999 19:45:19 -0400 (EDT), OS/2 Fan wrote:
>
>->Hello all,
>->I've got the following system:  AMD K6-2 on Gigabyte GA586S2 mobo
>->with SiS 5582 chipset.  DaniS506 driver with the parms 
>->BASEDEV=DaniS506.ADD /V /GBM
>->and a WD 6.1 GB Caviar drive as primary master in UDMA mode.  I've
>->now added a 1.2 Gb slave, told BIOS to not try and use UDMA on the
>->slave, just the master, and loaded Linux onto it.  Now when I boot
>->OS/2 I get 
>->
>->SYS 2068
>->EXPLANATION: The system had more error messages than could
>->be saved to be displayed at the end of system initialization.
>->ACTION: Correct the errors for the messages that were
>->displayed and restart the system.
>->
>->What have I done wrong?  If I hit enter a couple times OS/2 boots,
>->and it of course cannot see any partitions on the second HD since
>->they are linux native and swap so my drive letters are all OK. 
>->Appreciate any suggestions; TIA.  Suspect I'm missed something
>->obvious...
>
>OS/2 saves all kernel/basedev messages during boot up and issues them all
>at once at the end of processing when it is able to do so. If too many
>messages are stacked up then some of them are lost. The only thing you can
>do is reduce the number of messages produced by removing /V from a few
>things.
>
>
>Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
>(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
>
>
>

Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan
	
Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, 
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, 
and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.  


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From: monroej7@pilot.msu.edu                            03-Oct-99 11:43:11
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Installation problems

From: "Jason Monroe" <monroej7@pilot.msu.edu>

I'm having a slight problem with installing Warp 3 on a system that has the
CD-ROM drive on a secondary controlling on the sound card.  I have seen Warp
be picky on where the CD-ROM drive is, but I'm convinced that with an edit
to the config.sys on Disk 1 that this installation can be done without
changing the hardware.  Can anyone help on this?

Thanks in advance.

Jason Monroe


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From: norrisg@linkline.com                              03-Oct-99 10:04:22
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: I need help - please

From: "Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com>

Jeff Welton wrote:
> As I say, I don't know all the tech terms but the SDD readme
> said I would have to resinstall the S3 drivers. (Note here to
> SDD people:  you gotta fix that.  You gotta return my system
> to what it was if your SDD program doesn't work.

There is *NO* OS/2 video driver which restores what was there before if
you remove it, and I've never come across one on any other system
either.

No matter how badly a video driver screws up there are several ways, all
documented, to recover:

1. Restore VGA during boot
2. Boot to a command line and work on it manually
3. Boot from another OS/2 partition and work on it manually
4. Boot from a DOS partition if OS/2 boots from FAT and work on it
manually
5. Boot OS/2 from floppies and work on it manually.

Finally, if you don't really know what you are doing, you shouldn't be
installing beta or preview software, especially if it involves drivers.

Graham.

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From: News@The-Net-4U.com                               03-Oct-99 17:23:18
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Reinstall DOS & WinOS/2 without ruining Video?

From: News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)


Had some time ago been trying to get RealPlayer 
to work. So I dug up instllation instructions somewhe-
re telling me to install a new version of the "DOS-Box".

Sometimes that gave weird effects after that so I de-
cided to remove the DOS-box and re-install it using the
standard selective install. At the same time I wanted to
test an Win 3 app to create eBiz Sites. So I decided also
to re-install WinOS/2. This is on a PC with an S3 AGP card.

After the install everything had been reset to standard VGA
16 colors at 640x480 (men, that is ugly, we are getting spoiled).
No way to to set it at other resolutions and color-depths left. Now
to prevent me to having to redo the video-card install (see question
in comp.os.os2.setup.video) am I doing anything wrong? Is the DOS
& WinOS/2 selective install supposed to mess about with my graphics?

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: huekf@my-deja.com                                 04-Oct-99 00:55:10
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Which fixpacks?

From: huekf@my-deja.com

Hi!, I am new to OS2 W4 and having this soundcard problem.
I have tried to set-up the s/card using the Selective Install |
multi-media| removed the default -soundblaster Pro MV & selected the
Sound Galaxy Wave32# and ..........and finally rebooted .

But the changes to the new card does not happens so i have tried
numerous times without any success.

Has this to do with the fixpacks?
If so which versions do I use?
-do I use the latest Fixpacks#11?

Thanks.
HUEKF


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From: maxikins@os2bbs.com                               03-Oct-99 23:46:15
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: SB16 IDE controller

From: maxikins@os2bbs.com (Mark Klebanoff)

I have an old non-PnP SB16.  It had a built-in IDE controller to 
control a CD rom. The controller is jumper controllable to IRQ 
10,11,12 or 15, and to 4 different port addresses.

My current system has a WD 6.4 GB drive on the primary IDE channel, 
and a CD-ROM as the secondary master and a Seagate TR-4 tape drive as 
the secondary slave.  I'd prefer not to hang anything on the same 
channel as the Hard drive, so I'm looking for a tertiary IDE 
controller to hang a ZIP 100 drive.

I enabled the tertiary port on the SB16, and set it to IRQ 11 (which I
think is free).  Neither IBM1s506 nor DANIS506 drivers will recognize 
the port, but I can force it by adding /U:2 /p:1e8 /IRQ:11.  
IBMATAPI.FLT then recognizes the ZIP drive, but if I try to access it 
the computer freezes solid.  Is the card itself compatible with a ZIP 
drive?  I tried to hang the CD rom on the SB card and the ZIP on the 
secondary on-board controller, but that doesn't work either (the BIOS 
won't recognize the tape drive and the computer hangs).

BTW, the ZIP drive works perfectly when I jumper it as a slave and 
hang it on the same channel as the Hard disk

If this ain't gonna work, are there addon cards that will give me 
another IDE port and that work with OS/2?

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     03-Oct-99 19:43:10
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: Installation problems

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 11:43:22 -0500, Jason Monroe wrote:

->I'm having a slight problem with installing Warp 3 on a system that has the
->CD-ROM drive on a secondary controlling on the sound card.  I have seen Warp
->be picky on where the CD-ROM drive is, but I'm convinced that with an edit
->to the config.sys on Disk 1 that this installation can be done without
->changing the hardware.  Can anyone help on this?

You need to know the port address and the IRQ in use by the IDE controller
on the soundcard (making sure that it _is_ an IDE controller and not
something proprietary instead). Warp 4's version of IBM1S506.ADD probes
the usual addresses for soundcard controllers automatically so you might
just download the latest IDE drivers from
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/idedasd.exe and use
those and they'll probably jsut fix it. Otherwise you need to add
parameters to the BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD line to tell it where to look. For
example,

basedev=ibm1s506.add /a:2 /p:1e8 /irq:11

tells it to look for a tertiary IDE controller (count from 0 so #2 is
really the third!) on port address 1e8h and IRQ 11.


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     03-Oct-99 19:46:00
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: OS/2 and Linux:  Errors gallore!

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Sun, 03 Oct 1999 19:42:23 -0400 (EDT), OS/2 Fan wrote:

->I've done what you said, removed the /V parm from
->DaniS506, and I boot straight up now.  Tell me though, I'm still
->getting the errors, I'm simply not seeing them, right?

No, the only "error" there was that there were too many messages to
display!

IBM1S506.ADD (and probably DANIS506) are _very_ verbose with the /V switch
on producing about 5 or 6 lines of messages for each drive attached to the
system. There are just too many to buffer...


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: fat_ox@hotmail.com                                03-Oct-99 22:26:14
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: OS/2 and Linux:  Errors gallore!

From: "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com>

Aha, I see!  Thanks a lot, that's got to be over the hundredth time
you've helped out and I really appreciate it :) 


On Sun, 03 Oct 1999 19:46:01 +0100 (BST), Trevor Hemsley wrote:
>IBM1S506.ADD (and probably DANIS506) are _very_ verbose with the /V switch
>on producing about 5 or 6 lines of messages for each drive attached to the
>system. There are just too many to buffer...
>
>
>Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
>(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
>
>
>

Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan
	
Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, 
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, 
and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.  


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From: rlalla@stepnet.REMOVETHIS.de                      03-Oct-99 21:58:29
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: USB audio

From: "Robert Lalla" <rlalla@stepnet.REMOVETHIS.de>

On Sat, 02 Oct 1999 08:19:50 -1000, John Twelker wrote:

>OS/2 USB Drivers are written to the newer UCHI 1.1 standard which is
>fine ...however make sure your MOBO chipset has also the same 1.1
>standard. Some chipsets i.e. ALi in many Aptivas, may be 1.0 standard in
>which case you'll have problems since the OS/2 USB won't load.

OHCI 1.0 is NOT older than UHCI 1.1 nor outdated, but simply different.
Instead UHCI is a proprietary architecture of an USB controller developed by
Intel.
So far only VIA reverse-engineered and copied (more or less) UHCI hardware.
If any other independent hardware manufacturer wants to implement USB, its
only
chance is to use the OHCI architecture which is available to all
manufacturers.
Unfortunately there exists no OHCI driver for OS/2.

--
RL



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From: j.welton@mailcity.com                             03-Oct-99 13:17:29
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: I need help - please

From: Jeff Welton <j.welton@mailcity.com>

Graham C. Norris wrote:
> 
> Jeff Welton wrote:
> > As I say, I don't know all the tech terms but the SDD readme
> > said I would have to resinstall the S3 drivers. (Note here to
> > SDD people:  you gotta fix that.  You gotta return my system
> > to what it was if your SDD program doesn't work.
> 
> There is *NO* OS/2 video driver which restores what was there before if
> you remove it, and I've never come across one on any other system
> either.
> 
> No matter how badly a video driver screws up there are several ways, all
> documented, to recover:
> 
> 1. Restore VGA during boot

It did that automatically for me.  If the SDD program fails
or is removed it automatcally reverts to VGA mode.  This
would have been fine IF I could simply go back and use
selective install to reinstall the S3 drivers but it deleted 
the drivers too so I couldn't get back without going out
and 'finding' the drivers.

I was able to do that but the installation program that
accompanied the drivers required I have DOS installed
on my system.  I did not.  I chose not to install DOS or
WinOS2 because I believed I would never have to use
either one.  OS2 was the OS for me.

This left me with only one option: to reinstall the entire
operating system all over again effectively wiping out
much hard work, program installations, etc.

> 2. Boot to a command line and work on it manually

I tried that.  Unable to reinstall S3 drivers.  System
complained it could not determine my hardware and
unless it could do that it was not going to allow me
to install the drivers.

> 3. Boot from another OS/2 partition and work on it manually

See above.  Same results.

> 4. Boot from a DOS partition if OS/2 boots from FAT and work on it
> manually

Didn't have one, DOS partition that is.  I *thought* I was using 
OS/2 and would not be dependent on other operating systems.  
Your message tells me that is wrong.  If I want to use OS/2 I
must also use DOS or Windows.  Now I'm wondering why I am
trying to use OS/2 when those other operating systems come
already on machines and ready to go.

> 5. Boot OS/2 from floppies and work on it manually.

See above.  Same results.
 
> Finally, if you don't really know what you are doing, you shouldn't be
> installing beta or preview software, especially if it involves drivers.

Oh I agree and I've learned my lesson.  I've also learned
that OS/2's hurdles may be a little too high for me to scale.
I'm trying very hard to stick with OS/2.  I've put out a lot
of money for the software and the time and effort to keep
it up and running.  I am very sorry that I ever even looked
at SDD and if I am able to get back to a decent system I will
never be so stupid as to try a program again.

But I knew all that and came into setup.misc looking for
help and assistance.  What I get is a lot of finger wagging
from someone with more experience.  Gee, does that make
me want to spend another 12 straight hours trying to get
my system back?  Not really.  It makes me think I should 
drive over to Computerland and just buy one of their systems 
already set up and running with that other operating system.
 
> Graham.

Jeff

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 03-Oct-99 23:45:21
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: New monitor questions

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

Paul Lazaga <lazaga1@attglobal.net> wrote:

>....>
>Once you use a larger monitor you will never be able to go back to the 
>smaller one.  I personally use a Kleer K7, .28mm (sell them too) with 
>a Matrox Millineum II 8MB set at 75Hz with the SDD driver.  Works well 
>at 1280x1024x65K.  I think the 16M color is a bit of an overkill, at 
>least my eyes have never been able to tell the difference.  The change 
>from 60Hz to 75Hz definitely is easier on the eyes if you start at 
>these things all day.

I've never been able to see anything different about 16M
color, either.  I'm looking at your monitor page, and both
the K7 and the P7 look pretty good.  You might be hearing
from me...

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: WinnieWarp@root.of.tree                           03-Oct-99 21:07:01
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: How to context menu action 'open' for all objects of a given type?

From: WinnieWarp@root.of.tree (Winfried W)

Hello,
i had made pmview my standard viewer for image files (gifs and 
jpegs...)
by opening the settings menu of the pmview program object
and adding associations for the GIF and JPG data types.
This had worked well; when double clicking on an image pmview started
displaying it.
NOW, I 've installed another graphics program (TrueSpectrca's Photo 
Graphics)
and it's install procedure seems to have done the same procedure 
automatically. And when i double click an image now Photo Graphics 
starts up
(takes much longer to load, is rather an editor than a viewer).

I'm looking for a way to keep both associations for images but make 
pmview
the default program to be started.
How can this be done without opening the settings menu OF EVERY SINGLE
imagefile and changing  the "open" default actiont to pmview???

Thanks for any hints,

Winnie

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From: jnichols@tcia.net                                 03-Oct-99 17:18:03
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: CDW6416SZ

From: jnichols@tcia.net

 I have a little problem.  When I first installed Yamaha cdw6416sz I could
see it from OS/2 as drive L.   
  After installing the RSJ Demo it's turned in to a worm and  I can't fine
it.  Would someone please give me a hand.

Later,
Nick

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
jnichols@tcia.net
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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 03-Oct-99 23:30:14
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Re: New monitor questions

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

"OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi Ray,
>	I went from a 14" Princeton to a 17" Optiquest V775 using a 4
>MB Mystique 220 PCI.  The difference was well worth it IMO.  I run at
>1280X1024, true color, at 75 MHz refresh and am very satisfied.  The
>card will do 1600X1200, but my monitor only goes to 66 MHz refresh at
>that resolution, and it's simply too jittery for comfort. 
>Furthermore, I found the text to be far too small at that resolution
>anyway.  If you go to 19" though you should be able to pull off
>1600X1200.  However, at what I'm at, I've written a dissertation,
>worked day-in, day-out for a year and a half, and now waste my time
>online in absolute comfort.  Your card will do OK IMO (check the
>manual and it'll tell you how high refresh can be at 1280X1024 and at
>1600X1200; look for 75 MHz minimum, 85+ even better if you go
>1600X1200).  Get a monitor with high refresh rates and check it out
>at the store well beforehand, at the resolution you plan on using. 

That last bit especially is good advice & appreciated,
except at most of these stores the monitors aren't connected
to anything, instead they have some digital video running. 
Refresh rates is something else I've never understood -- of
course I should be used to higher numbers meaning faster,
but in this case since I'm running at 85 Hz already, I guess
it means that switching to 75 (60 certainly) might be a
noticeable slowdown.  Definitely good to know I probably
should avoid the $220 one with only 60Hz refresh, I guess.  

>Oh, and don't try to put it on the motorcycle to take it home... 

I knew I should of got the R1!  Actually the monitor might
even outweigh the bike...  Thanks, Grecque.

>Happy shopping!
>Regards,
>

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 03-Oct-99 23:39:12
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Re: New monitor questions

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

"Mark L. Kahnt" <kahnt@adan.kingston.net> wrote:

>shnip>
>I've worked with monitors of sizes from 12" to 21", and the main result
>that I've seen is that whatever size monitor you get, chances are you
>will maximise the main window you are working with to put the most info
>on screen or to permit yourself to zoom in far more. Having said that,
>you would most want a fast graphic card with scads of top speed memory
>on it, as this is what gives you the clarity and additional screen real
>estate. 1600x1200x16777216 would be a "2 page full colour" display,
>requiring 8MB on the graphics card and providing the ability to display
>2 pages of information cleanly side by side on the screen. 

I'd hope the MGA Mystique with 4 meg should do me at least
for a while.  I don't really need that much color depth,
just more space at sort of the depth I've got.  Actually, I
used a monochrome monitor for years before I got this Sony,
and while I can't say I miss it, it wasn't really that bad. 
For a while I was gonna replace it with a gigantic
monochrome monitor, but these are of course only more
expensive.

If your
>productivity is improved by this much greater clarity and screen room,
>it is very quickly capable of paying for the price difference between a
>smaller and a larger monitor.

I only wish I could try'em out on this desk.  It's hard at
the stores: they only seem to configure them to run in VGA,
and of course they're showing them on Windoze, which doesn't
really look that familiar to me the way OS/2 does.

>My first large monitor, a 19" NEC Multisync xl, was driven by a (get
>this) 256KB Super VGA card. When I first sat down at it, the VGA driver
>had been installed, so on this behemoth, I was getting 640x480x16
>colours! I upped it to 800x600x16, but it wasn't until I replaced the
>512KB graphic card in my home system with a 1MB card and took the 512KB
>card into work to replace the 256KB one that I had a faintly passable
>resolution for that size screen (1024x768x16). I joked for a few years
>after that how I was having to provide computer parts to my then
>employer so that I could do my job. ;) When the 19" monitor was retired
>after 7 years and noticeable burn-in effects, I ended up with a Compaq
>21" and a 4 MB graphic card - finally True Colour at 1024x768.

Yeah, I could see being addicted to a large screen.  In fact
I'm a bit scared of bringing home something, being happy
with it for three months, and then wishing I'd shelled out a
bit more to get something REALLY big.  I might skip lunch
for a few months and see about the Provia after all. 
Thanks, Mark.

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 04-Oct-99 00:49:03
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Re: New monitor questions

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net
(Raphael Tennenbaum) spake unto us, saying:

>I think I need a new monitor -- partly thanks to this superb
>new Netscape, nowadays I'm apt to have 4-5 browser windows
>open along with a dozen folders, not to mention the standard
>retinue of apps.  I'm running out of screen real estate.

Another solution (or something in addition to a new monitor) might be a
virtual desktop utility like PageMage or 9Lives or whatever.

I bought a 17" monitor back in 1992 to replace my wonderful 14" Zenith
1490, and even though the new monitor (Viewsonic 7) was US$1150 or so
at the time, I never regretted that purchase for an instant.  I still
use that monitor here as a backup/gaming monitor.

About two years ago I purchased a 21" Hitachi for use as my primary
monitor, and I've never looked back.  I usually use 1280x1024 @ 85HZ
(4MB Millenium), and I really couldn't be happier!

I'd spend a little bit of time actually looking at monitors and doing
some comparisons at various resolutions so you know whay you're getting
into.  That will give you some feel for what the various sizes will do
for you in terms of screen real-estate.

Something else to possibly consider -- I just picked up a pair of 17"
monitors (stealth black IBM C71's) on uBid for US$133 apiece, and they
seem to sell a lot of good monitors there.  If you time your bids right,
you might be able to get a good monitor for very little $$.

On the other hand, many of them are refurbs (factory returns/repair
units), but those are always marked as such on the site.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
             All Right! Drop Carrier! We Have You Surrounded!

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From: norrisg@linkline.com                              03-Oct-99 21:23:13
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Re: Adding NT safely to a Warp 4 machine

From: "Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com>

Ian Johnston wrote:
> 1) Creating another primary partition on the first HD (should I use
>    Fdisk or the NT install stuff to do this?)
> 
> 2) Installing NT on this
> 
> 3) Reactivating the Boot manager following directions in the NT install
>    handbook.
> 
> I am worried about making sure NT installs on the "right" primary partition,
> and doesn't scribble all over Warp.

NT4 doesn't understand HPFS (unless "helped" using NT3.51's pinball
driver), so it won't write to the wrong partition. Since you've got 6G
free, this suggests you'll be using NTFS, so FDISK can't create it for
you. It'll probably try to encourage you to remove or reformat your HPFS
partitions, but I'm sure you can figure out that's not going to help you
any if you let it!

Graham.

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From: Brian@webone.com.au                               04-Oct-99 14:43:27
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Re: I need help - please

From: Brian@webone.com.au

>> Didn't have one, DOS partition that is.  I *thought* I was using
>> OS/2 and would not be dependent on other operating systems.
>> Your message tells me that is wrong.

I have been using OS2 for 5years, in that time I must have tested hundreds
of apps. Needless to say many of them caused me some grief(I test ALPHA
stuff too).

A couple of suggestions:

1)I can recommend having TWO OS2 partitions.
Partion 1 is your normal OS2 which is as up to date as you like with all of
your progs loaded etc.
Partion 2 is a BASIC vanilla WARP +FP9, no WIN-OS unless you have to,
and a utility package eg. GRAHAM UTILITIES or GAMMATECH.
Once you have this partion set up and working never touch it.
Did I mention that you should not touch it no matter what the temptation!
This also includes running Service FIXPACKs which normally want to update
everything on your system.

With the above environment in place you can get out of just about anything.

2) BACKUPS.
Like everyone else I will get around to backing up my system LATER OK!

Well, after my recent experiences I have been converted! I have discovered
that you require a backup BEFORE you get into trouble. So I have the following
two command files.

A)
/*bkp_CDRIVE.CMD */
zip -$ -9 -r -S -v k:\CDRIVE_031099 c:\* >k:\CDRIVE_031099.TXT

k is the drive you copy to, c is the drive you copy from > saves the output.

B)
unzip K:\CDRIVE_031099

You run this from the root directory of the C drive AFTER running

FORMAT C: /L

assuming you are running HPFS.

You can do all of this from your second partion and be back on air in a short 
time. NOTE ZIP does a fair bit of compression so it does take some time.

Hope this helps..........Brian

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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               03-Oct-99 21:50:27
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Re: BIG BooBoo I think.

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

"Mr. Wonderful" wrote:

> Ok, I just got done d/l'ng and installing the Device Driver FixPack, but did 
it
> without installing FixPack 11 or any other fixpacks. Now it comes up with
the
> following error on reboot---"File PMMERGE=>PMVIOP,122 Specified in
> the ProtShell statement on line 2 of the config.sys file does not contain a
valid
> program. Line 2 is ignored. The System is stopped. Correct the proceeding
> error and restart the system."  I have went into command line mode and
checked
> to make sure the PMSHELL.EXE file specified on line 2 is in the OS2
directory
> and it is. I tried to REM out the line, and it comes up with an error along
the
> same lines as the one above. The file in the OS2 directory is the following
>
> PMSHELL.EXE   8-14-96   3:16am   6020 bytes   61
>
> Did I make a big mistake, and if so is it fixable? If so, please
HELP!!!!!!!!
>
> TIA!!!!!

You are the second person to report this.  The other poster
wrote in comp.os.os2.apps.  I'm not sure what is causing
it and referred the other poster to Trevor Hemsley of the UK.
Maybe Trevor knows what the cure is.  You might try him
at:

Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com



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From: gmezero@gz.bomb.com                               04-Oct-99 04:51:08
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Re: BIG BooBoo I think.

From: gmezero@gz.bomb.com (Bryan aka R.I.P.)

On Sun, 03 Oct 1999 21:50:54 -0700, Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com> wrote:

>"Mr. Wonderful" wrote:
>
>> Ok, I just got done d/l'ng and installing the Device Driver FixPack, but
did it
>> without installing FixPack 11 or any other fixpacks. Now it comes up with
the
>> following error on reboot---"File PMMERGE=>PMVIOP,122 Specified in
>> the ProtShell statement on line 2 of the config.sys file does not contain a 
valid
>> program. Line 2 is ignored. The System is stopped. Correct the proceeding
>> error and restart the system."  I have went into command line mode and
checked
>> to make sure the PMSHELL.EXE file specified on line 2 is in the OS2
directory
>> and it is. I tried to REM out the line, and it comes up with an error along 
the
>> same lines as the one above. The file in the OS2 directory is the following
>>
>> PMSHELL.EXE   8-14-96   3:16am   6020 bytes   61
>>
>> Did I make a big mistake, and if so is it fixable? If so, please
HELP!!!!!!!!
>>
>> TIA!!!!!
>
>You are the second person to report this.  The other poster
>wrote in comp.os.os2.apps.  I'm not sure what is causing
>it and referred the other poster to Trevor Hemsley of the UK.
>Maybe Trevor knows what the cure is.  You might try him
>at:
>
>Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com
>
>
>
Have you guys been following the instructions in the fixpack readme?

It specifically tells you to delete several files and perform some other
work *before* applying the fixpack.

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From: norrisg@linkline.com                              03-Oct-99 18:18:19
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 05:20:19
Subj: Re: I need help - please

From: "Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com>

Jeff Welton wrote:
> > 1. Restore VGA during boot
> 
> It did that automatically for me.

So you have a bootable and usable, but horribly ugly, desktop? Which
means you are on your way to recovering.
 
> This left me with only one option: to reinstall the entire
> operating system all over again effectively wiping out
> much hard work, program installations, etc.

Use Selective Install to install DOS (you don't need Win-OS2).

> > 4.
> Didn't have one, DOS partition that is.  I *thought* I was using
> OS/2 and would not be dependent on other operating systems.
> Your message tells me that is wrong.

Oh don't be silly. This is just one of many options and is the only one
which doesn't involve OS/2.

Graham.

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     04-Oct-99 08:54:25
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Re: Installing Lotus SmartSuite - Problems (continue ...)

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 12:23:45, xyxmadxyx@xyxziplinkxyx.xyxnetxyx (mark 
davidson) wrote:

> this is a recent reinstallation of warp4 and fp11 was the first 
> fixpack applied to the system.  if i recall, the device drivers were 
> not part of fp11 and i'm wondering if perhaps i need to apply the 
> first device driver fixpack to successfully install smartsuite on my 
> system?
>  
> again, any thoughts appreciated.  thanks/regards, ..
>  

I don't know if that is your problem, or not, BUT, I would suggest 
installing the DD fix pack anyway. If you just installed FP11, over a 
new warp4 install, you will be missing a LOT of driver updates, and I 
wouldn't even want to guess what might be missing.

Good luck...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     04-Oct-99 08:56:24
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Re: WinOs/2 Printing now has Blobs

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 03:23:59, "Eric A. Erickson" 
<drowelf@nospamvnet.net> wrote:

> All of a sudden all my printing for some WinOs/2 Apps now have black blobs
and lines on it.
> I have not made any configuration changes that I'm aware of it, but really
need to get this
> fixed. 
> 
> Any clues. 
> 
> BTW, this is using a deskjet 520 and the omni driver.
> 
> 
> Elvish Software Foundry, Inc.    		- Internet:  drowelf@vnet.net
> IBM Certified OS/2 Warp Engineer 	- IBMLink:   HONE81(ESFISA1)
> IBM Certified OS2/ Warp Developer & Associate Visual Age C++ Developer
> 'Already where I want to be Today 	- Voice/Fax: (281)-398-2625 <-Newe'
> 

Perhaps a silly question, but does this thing work from native OS/2? 
or another Op system?  or is the printer broken??? Is the cable 
connected properly?

Somehow, this sounds more like a dust ball, floating around in the 
area of the print head, than any kind of driver problem. (Yes, I have 
seen that <g>. There was a dust ball, caught on the print head, that 
ocasionaly got under the ink jet, and picked up ink. Then, it would 
drag on the paper, which caused the exact symptoms being described).

However:

I think you will find that WinOS2 uses Win31 drivers to drive your 
printer, and really does not use the OMNI driver, at all (Check your 
WinOS2 printer settings). It does, however, use the OS/2 print 
spooler. Perhaps, that has something to do with your problem. You can 
turn that off, and print directly to the printer, by going to System 
Setup-> Right mouse click on Spooler-> Disable Spooler (I doubt if 
this will affect your problem, but you never know...). Don't forget to
turn the Spooler back on.

If you don't find anything, try removing the printer from WinOS2-> 
Control Panel-> Printers, and reinstall it from your Win31 printer 
driver diskettes (should have come with the printer, or you should be 
able to download them from the HP web site -> check the manual for the
site name). You may need to change the Connect setting from LPT1: to 
LPT1.OS2:, after you re-install it.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: esko.kauppinen@ibm.net                            04-Oct-99 10:21:00
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Re: TP760 ELD, ES16881$, and Trap 000D

From: "Esko Kauppinen" <esko.kauppinen@ibm.net>

On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 00:17:02 GMT, stinky@ameritech.net wrote:

>Thanks for the tip.  In fact, that's exactly what I did.  Still, I get the 
>traps.
>
>What I'll probably do is re-install OS/2, and install only FP9 (and leave
>it there), as FP10 and above seem to break the ES1688 driver.

I'm using the ES1688 on my Compaq and also had the Trap while
installing Fixpak 10 (or was it 9?).

I solved the problem by installing the fixed driver but had a bit
difficulties finding it. I first tried one driver from the recommended
pages and it trapped too. 

Now it works well in OS/2 side but for WinOS2 I have to use the
Blaster drivers.   


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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     04-Oct-99 08:56:08
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Re: Help: OS/2 hangs at IBMIDECD.FLT with new cdrom

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 04:07:59, Robert Dohrenburg 
<rdohrenburg@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I found a/the solution? If I set the dvd-cdrom as a master ( secondary
> controller ) the system hangs, setting the dvd as a slave everything
> works fine. I wonder if this is a bug in the ibm1s506 driver.
>  
> BTW the size and date of the file is 24136 1998/09/30 21:14:00
> IBMIDECD.FLT From FixPack12
>  
> Thanks again.
> 

Are you sure you got that right??? It is known that a SLAVE, without a
MASTER, will sometimes work with older OS/2 IDE drivers, and with 
windows systems, but it will NOT work (it should NEVER work, under any
circumstances) with the later OS/2 IDE driver.

The basic rule (for each controller), is that if a controller has a 
single device attached, it MUST be a MASTER. If there is a second 
device attached, it MUST be a SLAVE. If your device won't work, as a 
single device on the interface, as a MASTER, then it is breaking the 
rules, especially, if it does work as a SLAVE, without a MASTER.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     04-Oct-99 08:56:11
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:06
Subj: Re: PCI Sound card for OS/2?  Yes! but the drivers suck...

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 09:51:16, Peter Fitzsimmons <pfitzsim@home.com> 
wrote:

> I just bought a Crystal CS4280 based card ($9.95us mail order :).
> 
> It's one step better than the Creative Labs PCI12* I got tricked into
> buying for $55cdn (no os/2 support at all; but works fantastic under win
> 98/nt).
> 
> The crystal card/drivers work great under NT, poorly under OS/2, and
> dismally under Win98.
> 
> Under OS/2 (warp 4.5) "DART" programs (like MP3 players) play at double
> speed 1/2 the time (skipping every other frame),  and the midi support
> is a joke.
> 
> My old SB16 non-pnp card worked better,  but required an ISA slot.
> 
> If you're really desperate to free up an ISA slot, you might try a
> CS4280 based card.
> 
> This is the one I bought: 
> 
>  http://www.axiontech.com/cgi-local/noinfo.asp?sogncrs4280
> 
> 
> and don't be fooled by all the talk about "3d" and "wavetable". These
> can only be implemented with software (poorly) with this card.
> 
> -- 
> Peter Fitzsimmons,      Toronto Canada.
> email:pfitz@ican.net    Voice: 905-858-3222

Don't know where you got the drivers, but try 
http://www.cirrus.com/drivers/audiodrv/ for the latest, and greatest 
generic driver (they may not work with your specific card).

Hope this helps...
******************************
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doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     04-Oct-99 08:56:13
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:06
Subj: Re: PM freeze problem after installing Linux

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 20:28:50, rzimmerm@almaak.usc.edu (Roger 
Zimmermann) wrote:

> I have a strange problem and I am getting really desperate to find a
> solution.
>  

I just installed Fix Pack 12, on warp4, and am now getting similar 
symptoms. I am going to back out to FP11, shortly...
******************************
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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     04-Oct-99 11:03:18
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:06
Subj: Re: BIG BooBoo I think.

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Sun, 03 Oct 1999 21:50:54 -0700, Tim Martin wrote:

->> Ok, I just got done d/l'ng and installing the Device Driver FixPack, but
did it
->> without installing FixPack 11 or any other fixpacks. Now it comes up with
the
->> following error on reboot---"File PMMERGE=>PMVIOP,122 Specified in
->> the ProtShell statement on line 2 of the config.sys file does not contain
a valid
->> program. Line 2 is ignored. The System is stopped. Correct the proceeding
->> error and restart the system."  I have went into command line mode and
checked
->> to make sure the PMSHELL.EXE file specified on line 2 is in the OS2
directory
->> and it is. I tried to REM out the line, and it comes up with an error
along the
->> same lines as the one above. The file in the OS2 directory is the
following
->>
->> PMSHELL.EXE   8-14-96   3:16am   6020 bytes   61
->>
->> Did I make a big mistake, and if so is it fixable? If so, please
HELP!!!!!!!!
->>
->> TIA!!!!!
->
->You are the second person to report this.  The other poster
->wrote in comp.os.os2.apps.  I'm not sure what is causing
->it and referred the other poster to Trevor Hemsley of the UK.
->Maybe Trevor knows what the cure is.

This sounds like the Process Commander problem that happens when you don't
follow instructions and remove it before applying the new FP...


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: mc6530@mclink.it                                  04-Oct-99 16:49:20
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 16:43:07
Subj: Re: SMP Motherboards and OS/2

From: mc6530@mclink.it (Yuri Dario)

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:32:22, "Gerald F. Meazell" <meazell@ibm.net> 
wrote:

> Is there a list of SMP Motherboards that work well with OS/2?  All I
> could glean from DejaNews was that the Gigabyte boards were unstable and

I'm running WSeB on a SuperMicro P6DBU with a couple of P3/450

Bye,

	Yuri Dario

/*
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 * http://www.quasarbbs.com/yuri
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From: fat_ox@hotmail.com                                04-Oct-99 19:34:18
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 16:43:07
Subj: BootManager vs. LILO

From: "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com>

Hello all,
I've got a problem booting Linux from my BootManager - OS/2 - NT
system.  
Here's my system:

6.1 GB master IDE HD, with
BootManager
300 MB NTFS NT4 boot partition
500 MB HPFS OS/2 boot partition
Extended partition with
	1 HPFS logical drive for OS/2 data
	1 FAT16 logical drive for both OS/2 and NT4

1.2 GB slave IDE HD
100 MB Linux / partition
Extended partition with
700 MB Linux /home partition
300 MB Linux /usr partition
100 MB Linux /swap partition

Problem:  I can't install LILO on / on the second drive, I get an
error (RH5.2 is the OS, by the way). I already have BM on the master
drive and can't let LILO go to the MBR of the master.  I've resorted
to booting Linux from floppies.  When I try adding / to the
BootManager menu, I get an error stating that the partition is
unformatted.  Yet I'd formatted it FAT before installig Linux so OS/2
knows about it (or so I thought).  Another catch:  OS/2 fdisk reports
the partition table on HD1, the 6.1 GB master, is corrupt and won't
deal with it.  I followed the advice in the Partition Magic 3 book
and used DOS fdisk to partition my master drive, then Partition Magic
to format everything.  OS/2 and WinNT work flawlessly in this manner,
but I don't dare launch OS/2 fdisk.  Is there any way to boot all 3
OSs from the HDs instead of having to use a boot floppy for Linux? 
TIA!

Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan
	
Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, 
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, 
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From: osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi                             04-Oct-99 16:34:24
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 16:43:07
Subj: Re: BootManager vs. LILO

From: osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi (osmo vuorio)

In article <sngbkubgznvypbz.fj3dda0.pminews@news.otenet.gr>, "OS/2 Fan"
<fat_ox@hotmail.com> says:
>

>knows about it (or so I thought).  Another catch:  OS/2 fdisk reports
>the partition table on HD1, the 6.1 GB master, is corrupt and won't
>deal with it.  I followed the advice in the Partition Magic 3 book

Install the large ide drive support, the classic Warp limit is 4Gb

http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/miscellb/os_2warp/

Osmo

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From: fat_ox@hotmail.com                                04-Oct-99 19:41:09
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 16:43:07
Subj: Re: BootManager vs. LILO

From: "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com>

Hi Osmo,
Thanks, but I've got that installed for support up to 8.3 GB, and the
6.1 drive works fine now, it's just that I can't use OS/2 fdisk on
it.  Partition Magic and DOS/Win fdisk both work on it fine.  I
mentioned the "corrupt MBR" detail thinking it might be why
BootManager thinks my / Linux partition, actually on the other drive,
is not formatted (?).  I apologize for all the confusion I've caused,
but I'm confused...  Thanks again!


On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 16:34:49 GMT, osmo vuorio wrote:

>In article <sngbkubgznvypbz.fj3dda0.pminews@news.otenet.gr>, "OS/2 Fan"
<fat_ox@hotmail.com> says:
>>
>
>>knows about it (or so I thought).  Another catch:  OS/2 fdisk reports
>>the partition table on HD1, the 6.1 GB master, is corrupt and won't
>>deal with it.  I followed the advice in the Partition Magic 3 book
>
>Install the large ide drive support, the classic Warp limit is 4Gb
>
>http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/miscellb/os_2warp/
>
>Osmo

Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan
	
Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, 
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, 
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From: Novosad @server030.fwb.saic.com                   04-Oct-99 16:01:11
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 16:43:07
Subj: Toolbar-Palette Position

From: Novosad @server030.fwb.saic.com

Hello,

     I had a normal Warp 4 desktop until the
Toolbar/Launchpad glitched badly.  Now it comes up
in a poor position on boot up.  I have tried to move
it back to a convenient place, but I cannot get it
to persist.  I have used WPTOOL's CHECKINI, and the
destop settings to no effect.  Any ideas what to try
next?

     I posted this to comp.os.os2.utilities and got
some suggestions to 1) delete SCENTER.CFG, but that
was the WarpCenter, and 2) to remove all items from
the Launchpad and have Warp rebuild a default Toolbar.
The Toolbar was rebuilt, but it still cannot be moved
properly.

    Warp 4, Fixpack 5.  Any ideas where the Toolbar
position is stored or how to change/Fix it?

Thank you

Steve

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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        04-Oct-99 18:34:29
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:11
Subj: Re: BootManager vs. LILO

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 19:34:36 -0400 (EDT), OS/2 Fan <fat_ox@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Problem:  I can't install LILO on / on the second drive, I get an
> error (RH5.2 is the OS, by the way). I already have BM on the master
> drive and can't let LILO go to the MBR of the master.  I've resorted
> to booting Linux from floppies.  When I try adding / to the
> BootManager menu, I get an error stating that the partition is
> unformatted.  Yet I'd formatted it FAT before installig Linux so OS/2
> knows about it (or so I thought).  Another catch:  OS/2 fdisk reports
> the partition table on HD1, the 6.1 GB master, is corrupt and won't
> deal with it.  I followed the advice in the Partition Magic 3 book
> and used DOS fdisk to partition my master drive, then Partition Magic
> to format everything.  OS/2 and WinNT work flawlessly in this manner,
> but I don't dare launch OS/2 fdisk.  Is there any way to boot all 3
> OSs from the HDs instead of having to use a boot floppy for Linux? 
> TIA!

You say you can't install LILO?  You're going to have to before you
can boot off the partition.  Just make sure you install it to the
local partition, not to the MBR.

The other problem with OS/2 reporting the partition table is corrupt,
is a difficult one.  I've seen it before, generally when Linux's
fdisk has been allowed to write to that drive.  The Linux fdisk seems
to do something funny that OS/2's fdisk doesn't like.  (Some people
have reported that the version of fdisk from OS/2 2.11 works whereas
the one from Warp does not.  Others, myself included, have tried 
both versions without success.)

The most important thing to do when trying to get Linux and OS/2 to
coexist is to make sure you originally create the Linux boot 
partition using OS/2's FDISK.  _Then_ install Linux and format the
partition with ext2.  Of course, it may be too late for that...

You have to install LILO, though, otherwise you won't be able to boot
from the Linux partition no matter what.  

-- 
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 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     04-Oct-99 19:46:08
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: BootManager vs. LILO

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 18:34:59 GMT, Alex Taylor wrote:

->On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 19:34:36 -0400 (EDT), OS/2 Fan <fat_ox@hotmail.com>
wrote:
->
->> Problem:  I can't install LILO on / on the second drive, I get an
->> error (RH5.2 is the OS, by the way). I already have BM on the master
->> drive and can't let LILO go to the MBR of the master.  I've resorted
->> to booting Linux from floppies.  When I try adding / to the
->> BootManager menu, I get an error stating that the partition is
->> unformatted.  Yet I'd formatted it FAT before installig Linux so OS/2
->> knows about it (or so I thought).  Another catch:  OS/2 fdisk reports
->> the partition table on HD1, the 6.1 GB master, is corrupt and won't
->> deal with it.  I followed the advice in the Partition Magic 3 book
->> and used DOS fdisk to partition my master drive, then Partition Magic
->> to format everything.  OS/2 and WinNT work flawlessly in this manner,
->> but I don't dare launch OS/2 fdisk.  Is there any way to boot all 3
->> OSs from the HDs instead of having to use a boot floppy for Linux? 
->> TIA!
->
->You say you can't install LILO?  You're going to have to before you
->can boot off the partition.  Just make sure you install it to the
->local partition, not to the MBR.
->
->The other problem with OS/2 reporting the partition table is corrupt,
->is a difficult one.  I've seen it before, generally when Linux's
->fdisk has been allowed to write to that drive.  The Linux fdisk seems
->to do something funny that OS/2's fdisk doesn't like.  (Some people
->have reported that the version of fdisk from OS/2 2.11 works whereas
->the one from Warp does not.  Others, myself included, have tried 
->both versions without success.)
->
->The most important thing to do when trying to get Linux and OS/2 to
->coexist is to make sure you originally create the Linux boot 
->partition using OS/2's FDISK.  _Then_ install Linux and format the
->partition with ext2.  Of course, it may be too late for that...
->
->You have to install LILO, though, otherwise you won't be able to boot
->from the Linux partition no matter what.  

PARTINFO.EXE from Partition Magic is good for diagnosing this sort of
stuff. I had errors on one of my disks after installing Linux recently. It
turns out that Linux's FDISK is very literal when you tell it to define a
partition. You say start here and go for xMB and it does. When it has xMB
then it stops. This can be anywhere on disk and OS/2's FDISK checks for
partitions ending on cylinder boundaries and complains bitterly until you
fix it.


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 04-Oct-99 08:19:15
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: PM freeze problem after installing Linux

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

rzimmerm@almaak.usc.edu (Roger Zimmermann) wrote:

>Hi everyone,
>
>I have a strange problem and I am getting really desperate to find a
>solution.
>
>The situation is as follows:
>Last Friday I tried to install Linux RedHat 6.0 on a partition of my
>Dell Dimension XPS R450 system with a 12 GB drive.
>I already have Win98 and OS/2 Warp 4, FP11, on it (via Boot Manager).
>Before the Linux installation, OS/2 was working very stable for weeks.
>
> Primary Partition: Boot Manager (7MB)
> Primary Partition: C: Win98 (2GB)
> Extended Partition: D: OS/2 boot (HPFS, 2GB)
> Extended Partition: E: OS/2 data (HPFS, 2GB)
> Extended Partition: G: Fat32, 2GB (drive is G: because of PARTFILT
remapping)
> Extended Partition: F: OS/2 scratch (HPFS, 4GB), to be used for Linux
>
>The Linux installation went OK on the F: partition as far as I could tell.
>I added Linux to the Boot Manager and was able to boot into all three OSes.
>
>Since then I have this very strange problem with OS/2. I can boot into OS/2, 
>work for about 2-3 minutes, and then PM applications such as Netscape
>Communicator, Acrobat Reader, etc. freeze. OS/2 windowed command prompts
>continue to work but nothing PM related. Shutdown also does not work
>anymore after some applications freeze.
>The Linux partition used to be HPFS but I had only data on that
>partition, no programs and there are no references in config.sys to F:


I know you've restored all as before, but it sure sounds to
me like your partitions got juggled or changed somehow, and
OS/2 is looking for eg, its swap file to put someplace --
but that someplace isn't playing cricket.  The fact that you
don't trap at bootup is kind of significant.  Did lilo
perhaps do something strange to change the status of your
partitions?  Not much help, I guess.

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com



>
>I have since removed Linux and restored my previous configuration (with
>F: being HPFS). I have also removed the Linux entry from the Boot Manager.
>I have switched OS/2 to VGA mode (I have a Matrox G200, driver v2.23) and I
>have also tried an STB card. I have restored a backup of my OS/2 system
>disk (D:) from two weeks ago. I have also tried to clean up my OS2.INI and
>OS2SYS.INI files.
>
>The result remains the same: PM applications freeze after about 2-3 minutes.
>As far as I can tell, I am back to were I started with my configuration,
>but the problem remains. Also, the problem seems to be strangely time (and
>not individual application) related. There are no error messages.
>I don't think it is a hardware problem since Win98 still works fine and
>OS/2 also works with non-PM applications.
>
>Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>I really hope I don't need to start from scratch (because it seems that
>even restoring system backups do not help).
>
>Regards,
>Roger
>
>rzimmerm@imsc.usc.edu

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        04-Oct-99 18:40:20
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Remote Svc Management?

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Fri, 01 Oct 1999 21:34:14 GMT, George Barrowcliff <barrowcl@flash.net>
wrote:
> Does anyone have any experience using the IBM Remote Support for OS/2 that
> they advertise in the Warp 4 box?  The version supplied by International
> Software Solutions in Florida?
> 
> I need access to the desktop of systems that are located remotely,  but have
> modems installed.

I've had no experience actually installing this or setting it up,
but a client company I was working at was trying this product out
for deployment for a while.  I used it a couple of times, and it's
a really nice product to use.  Works with OS/2 and Windows alike.
However, only the client end comes with Warp 4, you have to buy
the manager separately.

The company eventually decided not to use this, because licensing
it for widespread deployment would have been ruinously expensive
(apparently it's a very costly bit of software).  They went with
Netfinity instead, which they already had licenses for anyway.
(It seems to be free now, too...)

Note that both of these were used over LAN/WAN connections.  I've
no experience using either over a modem, although I suspect
Netfinity, at least, would be  v e r y  s l o w...

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 Alex Taylor                  BA - CIS - University of Guelph
 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: merlins@ibm.net                                   04-Oct-99 19:51:26
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: BootManager vs. LILO

From: Meinolf Sondermann <merlins@ibm.net>


OS/2 Fan wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> Here's my system:
> 
> 6.1 GB master IDE HD, with
> BootManager
> 300 MB NTFS NT4 boot partition
> 500 MB HPFS OS/2 boot partition
> Extended partition with
>         1 HPFS logical drive for OS/2 data
>         1 FAT16 logical drive for both OS/2 and NT4
> 
> 1.2 GB slave IDE HD
> 100 MB Linux / partition
> Extended partition with
> 700 MB Linux /home partition
> 300 MB Linux /usr partition
> 100 MB Linux /swap partition[....]
> 
> Problem:  I can't install LILO on / on the second drive, I get an
> error (RH5.2 is the OS, by the way). I already have BM on the master

The error is, that it doesn't make any sense to put LILO in the MBR of an IDE
slave drive as this would never be startable. Let LILO go to the LINUX root
partition instead. This partition is now startable by Bootmanager.

> drive and can't let LILO go to the MBR of the master.  I've resorted
> to booting Linux from floppies.  When I try adding / to the
> BootManager menu, I get an error stating that the partition is
> unformatted.  Yet I'd formatted it FAT before installig Linux so OS/2
> knows about it (or so I thought).  Another catch:  OS/2 fdisk reports
> the partition table on HD1, the 6.1 GB master, is corrupt and won't

You really need the idedasd fix often mentioned on other threads .
Once again - here is the location :
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/idedasd.exe

You might want to install FP12 and DD-FP1 instead .

> deal with it.  I followed the advice in the Partition Magic 3 book
> and used DOS fdisk to partition my master drive, then Partition Magic
> to format everything.  OS/2 and WinNT work flawlessly in this manner,
> but I don't dare launch OS/2 fdisk.  Is there any way to boot all 3

After applying idedasd fix, you can safely user OS/2 fdisk .

> OSs from the HDs instead of having to use a boot floppy for Linux?
> TIA!
> 
> Regards,
> Xtralarge OS/2 fan
> 
> Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
> killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone,
> I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it,
> and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.


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From: aubergine@my-deja.com                             04-Oct-99 19:52:10
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Lexmark Z51: optimizing under Warp

From: aubergine@my-deja.com

In article <37e189d4@news3.prserv.net>,
  ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller) wrote:

> I think the only way you will improve the performance is to

install the
> bi-directional printer driver. It is a package called bidi.exe
> found in IBM's
> device driver pak on-line. Be aware that this driver requires
> that irq 7 be
> free.

thanks for the advice. This does indeed make a great difference.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: isaacl@grizzlies.ece.ubc.ca                       04-Oct-99 20:08:16
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Resource Kit for OS/2?

From: isaacl@grizzlies.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)

Graham C. Norris (norrisg@linkline.com) wrote:
: George Barrowcliff wrote:
: > Does anyone know of a Resource Kit for OS/2 similiar to the Windoze 9X
: > variety?

: There are two related things. First is the IBM Developer Connection
: which includes OS/2 toolkits etc. and a whole ton of stuff you probably
: don't want, including, believe it or not, stuff for Windoze. The second
: is the Device Driver Kit which is exclusively OS/2.

: The former is at: http://www.developer.ibm.com/devcon/titlepg.htm
: the latter is at: http://service.software.ibm.com/ddk

: Devcon is partially are free, the DDK is completely free, however both
: require registration, and the free bits of DevCon, while they list
: everything may not contain everything you need, you may need to pay for
: an Advanced online subscription.

This is what's pissed me off about IBM+OS2....
Geez, you'd figure the INFORMATION you need to develop apps would be
freely available. Instead, you gotta pay some pretty big $$$. 

Couldn't they just make the "guest" level = "advanced" level minus
support?



Isaac

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From: tkatz@demand-sys.com                              04-Oct-99 19:02:03
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: enhanced USB driver: looking for testers

From: Tim Katz <tkatz@demand-sys.com>


Robert Lalla wrote:
> 
> I just completed some enhancements to the USB host controller (UHCI) driver
for OS/2.
> The following changes are included:
>  * fix VIA chipsets not working
>  * fix screen message at boot-up
>  * support for up to 8 root hub ports (not yet verified)
>  * make transfer list access more dma-safe (cannot be verified)
  Will this new driver support hot-plug of USB devices, like Win98 does,
or will the items need to be plugged in when the system is booted up?

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           04-Oct-99 18:36:27
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: SMP Motherboards and OS/2

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:32:22, "Gerald F. Meazell" <meazell@ibm.net> 
wrote:

> Is there a list of SMP Motherboards that work well with OS/2?  All I
> could glean from DejaNews was that the Gigabyte boards were unstable and
> 
> the Tyans worked well.  Can someone defend Gigabyte?  Are there other
> brands besides Tyan that work well?  Thanks.
> 

I am using an A-Trend 6820 with two Pentium II 400Mhz and it
seems to run and work well with WSeB. The only caveat is
that the MB is all PCI slots, no ISA. The only other thing I have
found is that it (the MB) is VERY power hungry. It won't boot with
less than a 250 watt power supply and to run two processors
you have to have a 300 watt power supply.

Lorne Sunley

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 04-Oct-99 18:30:10
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: New monitor questions

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <hY=4NyxLprbicn2o43NqkzmhwSWI@news.kraftwerk.net>, Martin Nisshagen
<forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se> writes:
>Raphael Tennenbaum [AT&T WorldNet Services] -> comp.os.os2.misc:
>
> Yeah, I could see being addicted to a large screen.  In fact
> I'm a bit scared of bringing home something, being happy
> with it for three months, and then wishing I'd shelled out a
> bit more to get something REALLY big.  I might skip lunch
> for a few months and see about the Provia after all. 
>
>IMHO: Get a better quality (not the cheapest series) of a 21" monitor from
any
>of the well known vendors and add a fast 1600x1200 graphics card to it.
>
>You won't regret it (it's really awesome to use, and if you use your computer
>daily you will appreciate it for many, many years to come).
>
>Important:
>
>But be aware that different monitors has *very* different characteristics,
and
>which one you should select depends on what you will use and optimize it for.
>
>Example:
>
>If you want to do mostly text editing or wire frame CAD/CAM I would suggest a
>21" Hitachi monitor who is extremely sharp (but not so good color balance as
>many of the other 21" monitors). 
>
>If your more into photo editing, 3D-animation, DTP or digital video I would
>suggest a 21" Philips from the professional series (not the cheaper business
>series) who has extremely good color balance (but not as sharp as the best
21"
>Hitachi monitors).
>

Martin -

I prefer a smaller monitor 'cuz my desk just isn't big enough ! and a 21"er
is like sitting in the front row at the movies . . but

are you acquainted with the Mitsubishi 19" *flat* screen (900u maybe ?)
what's your thinking on this one ? CAD work, but rendering, solids, that sort 
thing - as well as writing manuals, regular office-type work.  19" screen
in a 17" package, that part is nice ! 


>Best regards,
>
>m a r t i n | n
>
>-- 
>Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.0: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:-)
>CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
>d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.sbbs2.com/mn      
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw


--
Hrad ngravvrd

remove trees, see forest

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From: gbritton@!britton.dhs.org                         04-Oct-99 17:51:10
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: SMP Motherboards and OS/2

From: "Gerry Britton" <gbritton@!britton.dhs.org>

On 4 Oct 1999 16:49:40 GMT, Yuri Dario wrote:

>> Is there a list of SMP Motherboards that work well with OS/2?  All I
>> could glean from DejaNews was that the Gigabyte boards were unstable and
>
>I'm running WSeB on a SuperMicro P6DBU with a couple of P3/450

Using a Abit BP6 here, with 2 Celery 366s oc'd to 550.




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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 04-Oct-99 08:21:12
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: New monitor questions

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) wrote:

>Here in comp.os.os2.misc, raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net
>(Raphael Tennenbaum) spake unto us, saying:
>
>>I think I need a new monitor -- partly thanks to this superb
>>new Netscape, nowadays I'm apt to have 4-5 browser windows
>>open along with a dozen folders, not to mention the standard
>>retinue of apps.  I'm running out of screen real estate.
>
>Another solution (or something in addition to a new monitor) might be a
>virtual desktop utility like PageMage or 9Lives or whatever.

I've used these in the past, and I've liked them -- when I'm
doing say, two or three different "kinds" of work.  But
these days, some of what I do just goes easier if I keep a
mess of folders and four Netscapes running, and I to drag
and drop between'em.  (Otoh, I've got a decent shot, maybe I
could just put up a jumper onto the "other" desktop, I'm
sure I could shoot over 90%, you bet!)

>
>I bought a 17" monitor back in 1992 to replace my wonderful 14" Zenith
>1490, and even though the new monitor (Viewsonic 7) was US$1150 or so
>at the time, I never regretted that purchase for an instant.  I still
>use that monitor here as a backup/gaming monitor.
>
>About two years ago I purchased a 21" Hitachi for use as my primary
>monitor, and I've never looked back.  I usually use 1280x1024 @ 85HZ
>(4MB Millenium), and I really couldn't be happier!
>
>I'd spend a little bit of time actually looking at monitors and doing
>some comparisons at various resolutions so you know whay you're getting
>into.  That will give you some feel for what the various sizes will do
>for you in terms of screen real-estate.
>
>Something else to possibly consider -- I just picked up a pair of 17"
>monitors (stealth black IBM C71's) on uBid for US$133 apiece, and they
>seem to sell a lot of good monitors there.  If you time your bids right,
>you might be able to get a good monitor for very little $$.

I just did -- and all I can say is, I'd better win my bid,
and this thing better work, or you're in trouble!  (Just
kidding.)  Anyway, thanks a bunch for this, Rich.

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     04-Oct-99 19:46:21
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: SMP Motherboards and OS/2

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 18:36:55 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote:

->> Is there a list of SMP Motherboards that work well with OS/2?  All I
->> could glean from DejaNews was that the Gigabyte boards were unstable and
->> 
->> the Tyans worked well.  Can someone defend Gigabyte?  Are there other
->> brands besides Tyan that work well?  Thanks.

I've used Tyan and Supermicro. Both work just fine.


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: fat_ox@hotmail.com                                04-Oct-99 21:49:01
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: BootManager vs. LILO

From: "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com>

Thanks for responding!  I am using a boot floppy to load Linux.  I
think the damage to the disk 1 MBR was done by DOS/Win fdisk, but am
not sure.  I did make the linux partitions on disk 2 while in OS/2,
with Partition Magic, and added the / partition to the BM menu within
Partition Magic.  One thing I've thought of are DOS utilities that
allow one to boot linux from DOS, but I don't know if OS/2's DOS VDM
will allow that sort of thing (doubt it...).  What about putting LILO
in the HD1 MBR and using it to launch OS/2 and WinNT and Linux,
instead of BootManager?  Anyone doing this successfully?  Thanks for
any advice!


On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 18:34:59 GMT, Alex Taylor wrote:

>On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 19:34:36 -0400 (EDT), OS/2 Fan <fat_ox@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> Problem:  I can't install LILO on / on the second drive, I get an
>> error (RH5.2 is the OS, by the way). I already have BM on the master
>> drive and can't let LILO go to the MBR of the master.  I've resorted
>> to booting Linux from floppies.  When I try adding / to the
>> BootManager menu, I get an error stating that the partition is
>> unformatted.  Yet I'd formatted it FAT before installig Linux so OS/2
>> knows about it (or so I thought).  Another catch:  OS/2 fdisk reports
>> the partition table on HD1, the 6.1 GB master, is corrupt and won't
>> deal with it.  I followed the advice in the Partition Magic 3 book
>> and used DOS fdisk to partition my master drive, then Partition Magic
>> to format everything.  OS/2 and WinNT work flawlessly in this manner,
>> but I don't dare launch OS/2 fdisk.  Is there any way to boot all 3
>> OSs from the HDs instead of having to use a boot floppy for Linux? 
>> TIA!
>
>You say you can't install LILO?  You're going to have to before you
>can boot off the partition.  Just make sure you install it to the
>local partition, not to the MBR.
>
>The other problem with OS/2 reporting the partition table is corrupt,
>is a difficult one.  I've seen it before, generally when Linux's
>fdisk has been allowed to write to that drive.  The Linux fdisk seems
>to do something funny that OS/2's fdisk doesn't like.  (Some people
>have reported that the version of fdisk from OS/2 2.11 works whereas
>the one from Warp does not.  Others, myself included, have tried 
>both versions without success.)
>
>The most important thing to do when trying to get Linux and OS/2 to
>coexist is to make sure you originally create the Linux boot 
>partition using OS/2's FDISK.  _Then_ install Linux and format the
>partition with ext2.  Of course, it may be too late for that...
>
>You have to install LILO, though, otherwise you won't be able to boot
>from the Linux partition no matter what.  
>
>-- 
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
> Alex Taylor                  BA - CIS - University of Guelph
> alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
>-----------------------------------------------------------------

Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan
	
Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, 
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, 
and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.  


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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     04-Oct-99 19:29:22
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Adding NT safely to a Warp 4 machine

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On 4 Oct 1999 10:18:40 GMT, Ian Johnston wrote:

->Graham C. Norris (norrisg@linkline.com) wrote:
->
->: Since you've got 6G
->: free, this suggests you'll be using NTFS, so FDISK can't create it for
->: you.
->
->I am only going to creat an itsy-bitsy little partition, as I need NT to run 

->one program for the next three weeks before it goes (back) to oblivion!
->I thought FDISK only created the partition, and something else formatted it,
->but no matter - the important thing to me is - "Will NT on install give
->me the chance to creat a new primary partition on a disk which already
->has a boot manager, a primary and a logical partition without fouling up any
->of these three?"

Don't let NT's install create a partition for you. It *might* work but I
prefer to know that it will not depend on "might". Create the partition
with OS/2's FDISK. I usually make a point of setting that to be the active
partition (startable in OS/2 FDISK terminology). Perform the install and
then use OS/2's FDISK to set Boot Manager back as the startable partition
again (from a floppy disk boot). Don't use NT's Dick Administrator unless
you are forced to and if you are forced to then apply a later Service Pack
than 3 before you do.


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     04-Oct-99 19:32:27
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Toolbar-Palette Position

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 16:01:22 GMT, Novosad @server030.fwb.saic.com wrote:

->Hello,
->
->     I had a normal Warp 4 desktop until the
->Toolbar/Launchpad glitched badly.  Now it comes up
->in a poor position on boot up.  I have tried to move
->it back to a convenient place, but I cannot get it
->to persist.  I have used WPTOOL's CHECKINI, and the
->destop settings to no effect.  Any ideas what to try
->next?
->
->     I posted this to comp.os.os2.utilities and got
->some suggestions to 1) delete SCENTER.CFG, but that
->was the WarpCenter, and 2) to remove all items from
->the Launchpad and have Warp rebuild a default Toolbar.
->The Toolbar was rebuilt, but it still cannot be moved
->properly.
->
->    Warp 4, Fixpack 5.  Any ideas where the Toolbar
->position is stored or how to change/Fix it?

Follow these instructions _exactly_...

 1) Ctrl-Esc to get the tasklist
 2) Highlight the Launchpad line
 3) Hold Shift and double click on the Launchpad line to minimise it
 4) Right click on the Launchpad line and select close
 5) Doubleclick on a blank bit of desktop to get the launchpad active
again


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: kahnt@adan.kingston.net                           04-Oct-99 16:49:26
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: New monitor questions

From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <kahnt@adan.kingston.net>

Martin Nisshagen wrote:
> 
> Raphael Tennenbaum [AT&T WorldNet Services] -> comp.os.os2.misc:
> 
>  Yeah, I could see being addicted to a large screen.  In fact
>  I'm a bit scared of bringing home something, being happy
>  with it for three months, and then wishing I'd shelled out a
>  bit more to get something REALLY big.  I might skip lunch
>  for a few months and see about the Provia after all.
> 
> IMHO: Get a better quality (not the cheapest series) of a 21" monitor from
any
> of the well known vendors and add a fast 1600x1200 graphics card to it.
> 
> You won't regret it (it's really awesome to use, and if you use your
computer
> daily you will appreciate it for many, many years to come).
> 
> Important:
> 
> But be aware that different monitors has *very* different characteristics,
and
> which one you should select depends on what you will use and optimize it
for.
> 
> Example:
> 
> If you want to do mostly text editing or wire frame CAD/CAM I would suggest
a
> 21" Hitachi monitor who is extremely sharp (but not so good color balance as
> many of the other 21" monitors).
> 
> If your more into photo editing, 3D-animation, DTP or digital video I would
> suggest a 21" Philips from the professional series (not the cheaper business
> series) who has extremely good color balance (but not as sharp as the best
21"
> Hitachi monitors).
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> m a r t i n | n
> 
> --
> Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.0: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:-)
> CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
> d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.sbbs2.com/mn      
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw

Mmmmmmm - Philips Professional series...

Mmmmmmm - Hitachi big monitors...

Saw an ad in one of the design industry magazines I read about a 31"
monitor - hell, my tv set is only 17"!

I haven't looked into the graphics cards with 32 MB of RAM, but gimme
that with 3200 x 2400 x 24 bit colour on a flat screen and fast update
so that when I do video editing, I can have the multiple video segments
cued up for splicing and mixing in real-time and pump it back out in
HDTV broadcast quality.

Oh, I'd also love to have the rest of the equipment for handling HDTV,
rather than just the SuperBeta format I currently work with...
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From: raymond.heath@pss.boeing.com                      04-Oct-99 22:46:11
  To: maxikins@os2bbs.com                               04-Oct-99 21:24:10
Subj: Re: SB16 IDE controller

To: Mark Klebanoff <maxikins@os2bbs.com>
From: Ray <raymond.heath@pss.boeing.com>

I'm not understanding why you are not using your slave IDE off of your
primary IDE cable. The standard hook-up is primary harddrive and
secendary harddrive, or primary harddrive and cd-rom on the first slot,
then the secondayry IDE has any additional drives, such as tape and zip.

As for using the ISA SB16 IDE port, the driver that comes with SB16 is
for atapi cd-roms only. There is not enought throughput and buffer on
the SB16 card for a zip or harddrive, even if there was a driver for it.

But basically, IRQ 10 or 11 should work on that board, unless you have a
twain scanner board already hooked up. Then it was probaly assigned 10.
Ray

Mark Klebanoff wrote:
> 
> I have an old non-PnP SB16.  It had a built-in IDE controller to
> control a CD rom. The controller is jumper controllable to IRQ
> 10,11,12 or 15, and to 4 different port addresses.
> 
> My current system has a WD 6.4 GB drive on the primary IDE channel,
> and a CD-ROM as the secondary master and a Seagate TR-4 tape drive as
> the secondary slave.  I'd prefer not to hang anything on the same
> channel as the Hard drive, so I'm looking for a tertiary IDE
> controller to hang a ZIP 100 drive.
> 
> I enabled the tertiary port on the SB16, and set it to IRQ 11 (which I
> think is free).  Neither IBM1s506 nor DANIS506 drivers will recognize
> the port, but I can force it by adding /U:2 /p:1e8 /IRQ:11.
> IBMATAPI.FLT then recognizes the ZIP drive, but if I try to access it
> the computer freezes solid.  Is the card itself compatible with a ZIP
> drive?  I tried to hang the CD rom on the SB card and the ZIP on the
> secondary on-board controller, but that doesn't work either (the BIOS
> won't recognize the tape drive and the computer hangs).
> 
> BTW, the ZIP drive works perfectly when I jumper it as a slave and
> hang it on the same channel as the Hard disk
> 
> If this ain't gonna work, are there addon cards that will give me
> another IDE port and that work with OS/2?

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From: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Vi...               04-Oct-99 23:24:29
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 21:24:10
Subj: Re: Resource Kit for OS/2?

Message sender: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca

From: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca (Michel A Goyette)

Mon, 4 Oct 1999 20:08:32, isaacl@grizzlies.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog) a 
crit:

> This is what's pissed me off about IBM+OS2....
> Geez, you'd figure the INFORMATION you need to develop apps would be
> freely available. Instead, you gotta pay some pretty big $$$. 
> 
> Couldn't they just make the "guest" level = "advanced" level minus
> support?

	Well, have you taken a look at the Guest level?  If you can't develop
apps/drivers with that, I don't know what you need!  You have the docs
and even the sources are include.

Salut,

	Michel (sur OS/2 Warp 4.07)
	ICQ #13376913
	http://pages.infinit.net/exovede

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 04-Oct-99 23:22:06
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 21:24:10
Subj: Re: SMP Motherboards and OS/2

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <geribeurzfyrlqvnycvcrkpbz.fj3rdv8.pminews@news.dial.pipex.com>, "Trevor
Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com> writes:
>On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 18:36:55 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote:
>
>->> Is there a list of SMP Motherboards that work well with OS/2?  All I
>->> could glean from DejaNews was that the Gigabyte boards were unstable and
>->> 
>->> the Tyans worked well.  Can someone defend Gigabyte?  Are there other
>->> brands besides Tyan that work well?  Thanks.
>
>I've used Tyan and Supermicro. Both work just fine.
>
>

At the risk of sounding like an Idiot for recommending IBM, the Intellistation
works very well with Warp Advanced Server SMP here.


>Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
>(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
>
>
>

--
Hrad ngravvrd


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From: fat_ox@hotmail.com                                04-Oct-99 14:43:29
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 22:07:06
Subj: BootManager vs. LILO

From: "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com>

Hello all,
Here's my system:

6.1 GB master IDE HD, with
BootManager
300 MB NTFS NT4 boot partition
500 MB HPFS OS/2 boot partition
Extended partition with
	1 HPFS logical drive for OS/2 data
	1 FAT16 logical drive for both OS/2 and NT4

1.2 GB slave IDE HD
100 MB Linux / partition
Extended partition with
700 MB Linux /home partition
300 MB Linux /usr partition
100 MB Linux /swap partition

Problem:  I can't install LILO on / on the second drive, I get an
error (RH5.2 is the OS, by the way). I already have BM on the master
drive and can't let LILO go to the MBR of the master.  I've resorted
to booting Linux from floppies.  When I try adding / to the
BootManager menu, I get an error stating that the partition is
unformatted.  Yet I'd formatted it FAT before installig Linux so OS/2
knows about it (or so I thought).  Another catch:  OS/2 fdisk reports
the partition table on HD1, the 6.1 GB master, is corrupt and won't
deal with it.  I followed the advice in the Partition Magic 3 book
and used DOS fdisk to partition my master drive, then Partition Magic
to format everything.  OS/2 and WinNT work flawlessly in this manner,
but I don't dare launch OS/2 fdisk.  Is there any way to boot all 3
OSs from the HDs instead of having to use a boot floppy for Linux? 
TIA!

Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan
	
Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, 
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, 
and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.  


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From: meazell@ibm.net                                   04-Oct-99 07:32:11
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 22:07:06
Subj: SMP Motherboards and OS/2

From: "Gerald F. Meazell" <meazell@ibm.net>

Is there a list of SMP Motherboards that work well with OS/2?  All I
could glean from DejaNews was that the Gigabyte boards were unstable and

the Tyans worked well.  Can someone defend Gigabyte?  Are there other
brands besides Tyan that work well?  Thanks.

--
__________________________________
Gerald F. Meazell
Dallas, Texas
-----------------------------------------------------------
"The one I kiss will be your man." - Judas Iscariot, 33 A.D.
"I am loyal to the United States." - Benedict Arnold, 1776
"OS/2 will be the platform of the 90's." - Bill Gates, 1989
--
In a world without fences, who needs Gates?

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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      04-Oct-99 14:49:00
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 22:07:06
Subj: Re: New monitor questions

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Raphael Tennenbaum [AT&T WorldNet Services] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

 Yeah, I could see being addicted to a large screen.  In fact
 I'm a bit scared of bringing home something, being happy
 with it for three months, and then wishing I'd shelled out a
 bit more to get something REALLY big.  I might skip lunch
 for a few months and see about the Provia after all. 

IMHO: Get a better quality (not the cheapest series) of a 21" monitor from any
of the well known vendors and add a fast 1600x1200 graphics card to it.

You won't regret it (it's really awesome to use, and if you use your computer
daily you will appreciate it for many, many years to come).

Important:

But be aware that different monitors has *very* different characteristics, and
which one you should select depends on what you will use and optimize it for.

Example:

If you want to do mostly text editing or wire frame CAD/CAM I would suggest a
21" Hitachi monitor who is extremely sharp (but not so good color balance as
many of the other 21" monitors). 

If your more into photo editing, 3D-animation, DTP or digital video I would
suggest a 21" Philips from the professional series (not the cheaper business
series) who has extremely good color balance (but not as sharp as the best 21"
Hitachi monitors).

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.0: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:-)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.sbbs2.com/mn      
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw

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From: cocke@ibm.net                                     04-Oct-99 09:19:11
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 22:07:06
Subj: Re: GRADD .8 screwed up video install

From: Michael W. Cocke <cocke@ibm.net>

I haven't encountered the problem, but it sounds like you may need to 
fool around with the DSPINSTL program, which, on my system, is located 
in /OS2/INSTALL/VGA.  I don't know where you'd look for docs on this 
program, but if you run it with the parameter HELP, displays what looks 
like the initial install video driver select.   YMMV, and at your own 
risk.



On Fri, 01 Oct 1999 23:53:06 GMT, Duncan Munro wrote:

>I recently tried to install GRADD .8 on a Warp4/FP10 machine with a
>S3765 PCI card. The install failed and now I cannot reinstall my older
>S3 2.8.4 drivers. using setvga gets me a plain VGA install but when I
>try to install the older drivers it fails with an "unable to find
>valid .dsp file" or words to that effect. Has anyone else run into
>this problem?
>
>TIA
>
>Duncan
>

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From: rgehrig@primenet.com                              04-Oct-99 07:27:24
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 22:07:06
Subj: Re: SMP Motherboards and OS/2

From: "Robert Gehrig" <rgehrig@primenet.com>

On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 07:32:22 -0400, Gerald F. Meazell wrote:

>Is there a list of SMP Motherboards that work well with OS/2?  All I
>could glean from DejaNews was that the Gigabyte boards were unstable and
>
>the Tyans worked well.  Can someone defend Gigabyte?  Are there other
>brands besides Tyan that work well?  Thanks.
>
>--
>__________________________________
>Gerald F. Meazell
>Dallas, Texas
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>"The one I kiss will be your man." - Judas Iscariot, 33 A.D.
>"I am loyal to the United States." - Benedict Arnold, 1776
>"OS/2 will be the platform of the 90's." - Bill Gates, 1989
>--
>In a world without fences, who needs Gates?


I have two Micronics W6-LI dual Pentium Pros with no trouble




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From: News@The-Net-4U.com                               04-Oct-99 14:45:04
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 22:07:07
Subj: Re: GRADD .8 screwed up video install

From: News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)

> dunmunro@direct.ca (Duncan Munro) wrote:

> I recently tried to install GRADD .8 on a Warp4/FP10 machine with a
> S3765 PCI card. The install failed and now I cannot reinstall my older
> S3 2.8.4 drivers. using setvga gets me a plain VGA install but when I
> try to install the older drivers it fails with an "unable to find
> valid .dsp file" or words to that effect. Has anyone else run into
> this problem?

No, I ran into other problems trying GRADD .8 with an S3 Trio card.
That is, using the S3 option of that GRADD, when I did it again with
the generic SVGA option GEN it worked. Perhaps trying GEN gives you
the functionality of the card again without need of going back to S3-drivers?

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: norrisg@linkline.com                              04-Oct-99 07:59:26
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 22:07:07
Subj: Re: Adding NT safely to a Warp 4 machine

From: "Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com>

That is how it is supposed to work, yes. As always however, back things
up before you start.

Graham.

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From: Roland.Pinches@rolypoly.force9.c...               05-Oct-99 01:13:23
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: SMP Motherboards and OS/2

Message sender: Roland.Pinches@rolypoly.force9.co.uk

From: Roland Pinches <Roland.Pinches@rolypoly.force9.co.uk>

I'm using an ASUS P2B-DS with 2 Pentium II 400Mhz processors. Not found
any problems at all, even with the onboard SCSI (AIC7890) unlike some
Compaq motherboards with onboard SCSI!

Roland.

"Gerald F. Meazell" wrote:
> 
> Is there a list of SMP Motherboards that work well with OS/2?  All I
> could glean from DejaNews was that the Gigabyte boards were unstable and
> 
> the Tyans worked well.  Can someone defend Gigabyte?  Are there other
> brands besides Tyan that work well?  Thanks.
> 
> --
> __________________________________
> Gerald F. Meazell
> Dallas, Texas
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> "The one I kiss will be your man." - Judas Iscariot, 33 A.D.
> "I am loyal to the United States." - Benedict Arnold, 1776
> "OS/2 will be the platform of the 90's." - Bill Gates, 1989
> --
> In a world without fences, who needs Gates?

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From: mmhj@my-deja.com                                  05-Oct-99 00:16:24
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Warp 3 on Dell Latitude CPi

From: mmhj@my-deja.com

For anyone still using Warp 3 on Dell Latitude CPi with TI-1131 cardbus
chipset:

The socket service driver SS2INTEL.SYS dated 08-31-99 works with the
latest PC Card Director.

Mail me if you need that driver.

Mark

P.S.: Warp 4 user should use SS2PCIC2.SYS dated 06-16-97.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: norrisg@linkline.com                              04-Oct-99 18:29:13
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: Adding NT safely to a Warp 4 machine

From: "Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com>

Trevor Hemsley wrote:
> Don't let NT's install create a partition for you. It *might* work but I
> prefer to know that it will not depend on "might". Create the partition
> with OS/2's FDISK. I usually make a point of setting that to be the active
> partition (startable in OS/2 FDISK terminology). Perform the install and
> then use OS/2's FDISK to set Boot Manager back as the startable partition
> again (from a floppy disk boot). Don't use NT's Dick Administrator unless
> you are forced to and if you are forced to then apply a later Service Pack
> than 3 before you do.

If he does this, NT will come along and want to reuse a primary
partition, of which one is his HPFS partition, one will be a nominally
empty one. NT will then give him the choice of formatting a primary
partition. I'd sooner trust NT for create and then format the partition
it just created than to have it just format an existing partition and
hope it manages to get the right one! (I have as little faith in NT
doing what I expect as you do.) Ideally, I'd have something like
Partition Magic make me an NTFS partition before I start, but I'd still
want the whole thing backed up before letting an NT install loose on it!
I'd also hide the HPFS primary before I get started if I was using
Partition Magic: anything to discourage NT from misbehaving.

Graham.

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From: norrisg@linkline.com                              04-Oct-99 18:32:20
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: Resource Kit for OS/2?

From: "Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com>

e-frog wrote:
> This is what's pissed me off about IBM+OS2....
> Geez, you'd figure the INFORMATION you need to develop apps would be
> freely available. Instead, you gotta pay some pretty big $$$.
> 
> Couldn't they just make the "guest" level = "advanced" level minus
> support?

What exactly are you comparing OS/2 with? Linux, or Windows? It's hardly
comparable with Linux. With Windows if you buy a compiler you get enough
information to write programs, and the same is true if you buy an OS/2
compiler. In addition which, as I said, quite a lot of DevCon is free.

Graham.

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From: stinky@ameritech.net                              05-Oct-99 03:18:08
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: TP760 ELD, ES16881$, and Trap 000D

From: stinky@ameritech.net

Hello Eric,

By any chance, do you recall where you found the fixed driver?  The drivers
from
www.esstech.com and the ddpack online site are at the same revision (1.0.3), 
though the zipfile sizes differ slightly.

Thanks,

John

In <rfxbxnhccvaravozarg.fj31700.pminews@news3.ibm.net>, "Esko Kauppinen"
<esko.kauppinen@ibm.net> writes:
>On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 00:17:02 GMT, stinky@ameritech.net wrote:
>
>>Thanks for the tip.  In fact, that's exactly what I did.  Still, I get the 
>>traps.
>>
>>What I'll probably do is re-install OS/2, and install only FP9 (and leave
>>it there), as FP10 and above seem to break the ES1688 driver.
>
>I'm using the ES1688 on my Compaq and also had the Trap while
>installing Fixpak 10 (or was it 9?).
>
>I solved the problem by installing the fixed driver but had a bit
>difficulties finding it. I first tried one driver from the recommended
>pages and it trapped too. 
>
>Now it works well in OS/2 side but for WinOS2 I have to use the
>Blaster drivers.   
>
>


jdserra at ameritech dot net

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 04-Oct-99 23:40:20
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: New monitor questions

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se> wrote:

>Raphael Tennenbaum [AT&T WorldNet Services] -> comp.os.os2.misc:
>
> Yeah, I could see being addicted to a large screen.  In fact
> I'm a bit scared of bringing home something, being happy
> with it for three months, and then wishing I'd shelled out a
> bit more to get something REALLY big.  I might skip lunch
> for a few months and see about the Provia after all. 
>
>IMHO: Get a better quality (not the cheapest series) of a 21" monitor from
any
>of the well known vendors and add a fast 1600x1200 graphics card to it.
>
>You won't regret it (it's really awesome to use, and if you use your computer
>daily you will appreciate it for many, many years to come).
>
>Important:
>
>But be aware that different monitors has *very* different characteristics,
and
>which one you should select depends on what you will use and optimize it for.
>
>Example:
>
>If you want to do mostly text editing or wire frame CAD/CAM I would suggest a
>21" Hitachi monitor who is extremely sharp (but not so good color balance as
>many of the other 21" monitors). 
>
>If your more into photo editing, 3D-animation, DTP or digital video I would
>suggest a 21" Philips from the professional series (not the cheaper business
>series) who has extremely good color balance (but not as sharp as the best
21"
>Hitachi monitors).

I do appreciate your advice, Martin, especially considering
the vehemence of a flame or two I have directed at you in
the past. 

I'm sure you're absolutely correct; alas at the moment, desk
and wallet space allow me only a fairly cheap model -- or
rather, a decent model at a cheap price.  If I had a nice
big desk in a floor-through office, I'd love to use a 21"
monitor, but it looks like I'm settling on a lesser one --
in fact on one of the cheaper 17" Philips models (if my bid
holds up).  And if it doesn't, I'll continue exploring. 
Truth is, I'm a perfect candidate for a flat-screen model,
but it's out of my range.

Thanks.

>
>Best regards,
>
>m a r t i n | n
>
>-- 
>Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.0: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:-)
>CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
>d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.sbbs2.com/mn      
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: Mike.Box@153.sasbbs.com                           04-Oct-99 19:51:25
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: i810?

From: "Mike Box" <Mike.Box@153.sasbbs.com>

jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) wrote:

 JH>     I noticed that there are i810 video drivers for OS/2 but what
 JH> about the sound?  For those that do not know, i810 is a chipset from
 JH> Intel that has both sound and video integrated.  Not like the Cyrix
 JH> MediaGX that had the sound and video run from the CPU, instead it is
 JH> the motherboard chipset that handles it.  Better idea, at least it
 JH> sounds like it.  That way the CPU isn't responsible for everything.

I had the chance to install warp on the i810 and found the i810 video drives
quite nice... I did search high and low and couldn't find the sound drives as
well. Were you trying the AC97 integrated sound driver or the higher end
Yamaha
744 drivers? Also have you seen anything on the modem riser?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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+
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From: will.honea@wcom.com                               05-Oct-99 03:17:00
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: Toolbar-Palette Position

From: Will Honea <will.honea@wcom.com>

This reminds me:  I've got one system with one of those blasted
unkillable green question marks on the toolbar - darned thing locks the
system solid if I try to shred, move, or delete it.  I'm ready to delete
the toolbar as that seems to be the only way out (tried about every
other trick in the book) but how do I re-create the toolbar to start
fresh? (Warp 4, btw).

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From: rappleby@cadvision.com                            04-Oct-99 00:10:28
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: GIMP, XFree86, GhostScript HELP PLEASE.

From: rappleby@cadvision.com (Ray Appleby)

I am trying to open a .EPS file in GIMP.  After getting 
XFree86/XWindows/GIMP setup, the first try said that it couldn't find 
gs.exe (ghostscript) so I installed ghostscript for X11 from Hobbes.  
Didn't work.  I have been advised that ghostscript 5.5 for OS/2 will 
work under XWindows but I'm not convinced of that since the 
executables have different names (I need it to work in conjuction 
(seamlessly) with GIMP which wants to call gs.exe to interpret the 
encapsulated postscript file.)

I can't find any info on how to properly set up ghostscript under 
XFree86/XWindows.

If anyone has done this could you please post the procedure or 
location and name of a readme file which contains detailed info about 
this specific procedure.

I don't just want to run ghostscript, I want it to work in conjuction 
with GIMP under XWindows.

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Ray Appleby                     rappleby@cadvision.com
[Team OS/2]                 Multitasking at OS/2 Warp4 Speed.

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From: dropThis.DenverD@ibm.net                          05-Oct-99 04:33:22
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: Problems dialing to the Internet (Help please)

From: dropThis.DenverD@ibm.net (DenverD )

In message <37EF47B0.58085F39@boehringer-ingelheim.es> - Sergi
Ballester <balleste@boehringer-ingelheim.es>Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:32:16
+0200 writes:
>
>Hi all,
>
>First: Sorry for the crossposting
>
>Second: The real problem:
>
>I'm going through a problem that it may have been suffered by anybode
>else.
>The problem is that I can't connect to the Internet with my home machine
>via modem (PPP).
>One month ago I installed FP 10 (I don't know if one thing carried the
>other), but I can't connect (I have been working with no problems for
>the 3 last years). After this problem appeared I downloaded Injoy and
>registered it (everybody say that it's a terrific app) with no success,
>even tried SIO. I got a free account from one of the biggest spanish
>providers with it own dialer called Teleline.
>
>I'm trying all these dialers and providers:
>"Dial other internet provider"   --> Redes tb + Airtelnet + Teleline
>Injoy 2.2    ----> Redes tb + Airtelnet + Teleline
>Infovia plus ---->  Teleline
>
>The problem I'm getting is:
>Call established.
>My machine gets an IP adress from the provider.
>After a few seconds the conections suddenly stops.
>
>I have an account at ibm.net that works perfectly using IBM Dialer
>(SLIP), but I don't want to use it due to fact that IBM is not a local
>provider.
>
>My machine is:
>Clone P166 + 96MB + S3 Virge 2MB + US Robotics Sporter external 28.8 +
>Warp 4.0 Spanish + FP 10 + SIO drivers
>
>All this makes me thing about a problem with the TCP/IP setup, but I'm
>not aware of me changing anything. Any idea out there??
>
>TIA,
>Sergi Ballester (Sabadell, Spain)

Hi Sergi,
Sorry it took me so long to see this (I've been in Mallorca..)

anyway, there are a number of things that MIGHT be wrong..

you might wanna TRY these things one at a time:

In InJoy, on the Comm Setup page, make sure the "Modem initstring #1"
and "Modem initstring #2" are EXACTLY the SAME as that which is being
used by the IBM dialer (since that one works)..

In InJoy, also on the Comm Setup page, set your "Port speed" to 57600,
or less..

In InJoy, make VERY VERY sure that both your User "ID" and "Password"
are precisely the way your ISP wants them (like "Pass" and "pasS" may
not be the same thing to them)..

Do ALL of the above before trying the below:

Are you using a script? If so, turn it off . . . about 99.99% of the
ISPs today use either CHAP or PAP instead of a script..

On the PPP Options page, try clicking on "Default" and try that..

If that doesn't help, click on "Make Slow" and try that..

Maybe your ISP is using an NT PPP server, so try (also on the PPP
Options page): click again on "Make Slow and then turn off PAP and
turn on "Allow CHAP Authentication" and "Allow MS-CHAP
Authentication"..... ("on" means that there should be an X in the [ ] 
)

by now you should have a working setup..

if so, be sure and turn off unneeded trace/logging (it REALLY slows
things down) to get there from InJoys opening/operating face, click on
[Misc. opt] then on [Trace configuration] then put an X in ONLY these
blocks "Trace ON/OFF", "Important info", "Trace errors", and "InJoy
output window".

if not:

1. Join and post to the FREE InJoy mail list:
Subscribe at http://www.fx.dk/contadd.html

2. If the mailing list does not give you the help you need, e-mail the
InJoy Support Center at: support@fx-usa.com

3. In InJoy, set up a new host that can use the ibm.net (its pretty
easy if you follow the guide in the faq.txt file that comes with
InJoy)...this will give you confidence that InJoy WILL work for you
once you get the stuff set up right...(I KNOW for sure that one can
connect to either Palma de Mallorca or Barcelona with a proper setup
Warp + InJoy + SIO) [and, I should mention that Mallorca is WONDERFUL,
but TOO many tourist for my taste..   ;-)  ]

good luck...

caveat: Hey, I'm no guru . . . if you fry your modem trying to follow
my tips I am sorry, but not responsible . . 

--
DenverD AT ibm DOT net

CAUTION: All addresses are anti-spam spoofs.
you gotta fix'em up to mail me...sorry!

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From: jdb@juliand.com                                   04-Oct-99 23:15:06
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:07
Subj: Re: Long boot-up, no audio

From: Julian Dominic <jdb@juliand.com>

I have a AMD K6 300mhz and it takes at least three minutes to get from the
bios screen to the WARP desktop.  I'm not sure that you have a problem
there.  The sound is probably drivers.  I don't have any experience with
your board.  Check the IBM device driver page and make sure you have the
right ones.  Also, if you get sound to work in OS/2, it is a separate
effort to get it to work in WIN/OS2.

Ray wrote:

> All,
> I am using a Pentium system but it seems excessively long to boot up, 3
> 1/2 min, and my audio is missing. Here is my system setup:
>
> Intel P133 non MMX
> 100mhz motherboard
> no cache(hard stuff to find if it doesn't come with mb)
> 32meg RAM
> 4.3G Fuji HD, partioned in forths
> SB-16 PCI Vibra
> 1.44 floppy
> IOMEGA IDE ZIP
> Trident SVGA using the standard 8900 driver @ 256 colors
>
> I also have DOS 6.22 and WIN 3.1 loaded up and it boots in 30 seconds,
> with sound in WIN 3.1. WARP and DOS/WIN boot through System Commander.
>
> Any clues where to look?
>
> Ray
>
> The frog is boiling, he just doesn't know it yet



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From: esko.kauppinen@ibm.net                            05-Oct-99 09:45:15
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 05:20:19
Subj: Re: TP760 ELD, ES16881$, and Trap 000D

From: "Esko Kauppinen" <esko.kauppinen@ibm.net>

On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 03:18:17 GMT, stinky@ameritech.net wrote:

>Hello Eric,
>
>By any chance, do you recall where you found the fixed driver?  The drivers
from
>www.esstech.com and the ddpack online site are at the same revision (1.0.3), 
>though the zipfile sizes differ slightly.

I cannot remember where I got it from but the driver is revision 2.00.15.
The name of the packet is os21688.zip     341207 bytes.

The date on my file is 17 Apr-99 but that is probably wrong and caused by
the date bug. The newest file is dated 23.Oct -98 as is the ES1688DD.SYS
which states ver. 2.00.15.

The readme files still talk about ver. 1.0.3.

Esko
  


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From: rdohrenburg@hotmail.com                           05-Oct-99 01:59:19
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 05:20:19
Subj: Re: Help: OS/2 hangs at IBMIDECD.FLT with new cdrom

From: Robert Dohrenburg <rdohrenburg@hotmail.com>

Doug Bissett wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 04:07:59, Robert Dohrenburg
> <rdohrenburg@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I found a/the solution? If I set the dvd-cdrom as a master ( secondary
> > controller ) the system hangs, setting the dvd as a slave everything
> > works fine. I wonder if this is a bug in the ibm1s506 driver.
> >
> > BTW the size and date of the file is 24136 1998/09/30 21:14:00
> > IBMIDECD.FLT From FixPack12
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> 
> Are you sure you got that right??? It is known that a SLAVE, without a
> MASTER, will sometimes work with older OS/2 IDE drivers, and with
> windows systems, but it will NOT work (it should NEVER work, under any
> circumstances) with the later OS/2 IDE driver.


Yes Im sure. I have two Matrox drives ( a master 13.6G 7200RPM and a
slave 13.6G 5400RPM ) hooked to the primary controller. The DVD-CDROM is
connected to the secondary controller acting as a slave.



> 
> The basic rule (for each controller), is that if a controller has a
> single device attached, it MUST be a MASTER. If there is a second
> device attached, it MUST be a SLAVE. If your device won't work, as a
> single device on the interface, as a MASTER, then it is breaking the
> rules, especially, if it does work as a SLAVE, without a MASTER.


Sorry but the rules don't apply here. ASUS P2B 128Mb, TNT2-Ultra, WARP
4.0 FP12 and the above combination of drives.


Robert,

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From: rdohrenburg@hotmail.com                           05-Oct-99 02:13:14
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 05:20:19
Subj: Re: Help: OS/2 hangs at IBMIDECD.FLT with new cdrom

From: Robert Dohrenburg <rdohrenburg@hotmail.com>

Doug Bissett wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 04:07:59, Robert Dohrenburg
> <rdohrenburg@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I found a/the solution? If I set the dvd-cdrom as a master ( secondary
> > controller ) the system hangs, setting the dvd as a slave everything
> > works fine. I wonder if this is a bug in the ibm1s506 driver.
> >
> > BTW the size and date of the file is 24136 1998/09/30 21:14:00
> > IBMIDECD.FLT From FixPack12
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> 
> Are you sure you got that right??? It is known that a SLAVE, without a
> MASTER, will sometimes work with older OS/2 IDE drivers, and with
> windows systems, but it will NOT work (it should NEVER work, under any
> circumstances) with the later OS/2 IDE driver.
> 
> The basic rule (for each controller), is that if a controller has a
> single device attached, it MUST be a MASTER. If there is a second
> device attached, it MUST be a SLAVE. If your device won't work, as a
> single device on the interface, as a MASTER, then it is breaking the
> rules, especially, if it does work as a SLAVE, without a MASTER.
> 
> Hope this helps...
> ******************************
> From the PC of Doug Bissett
> doug.bissett at attglobal.net
> The " at " must be changed to "@"
> ******************************


Just an update on my reply.

This is what I get from rmview:

/START
  Adapter: PCI_Bus_0
  Device Type: OTHER          Bus/Width: PLANAR 32 BIT

    Adapter: IDE_0 ST506/IDE Controller
    Device Type: MS-IDE         Bus/Width: PCI 16 BIT
    IRQ Level = 14  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED
    I/O = 0X01F0  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
    I/O = 0X03F6  Len =   1  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16

      Device: HD_0 Maxtor 91536U6                         FIXED  DISK


      Device: HD_1 Maxtor 91360D8                         FIXED  DISK


    Adapter: IDE_1 ST506/IDE Controller
    Device Type: MS-IDE         Bus/Width: PCI 16 BIT
    IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED
    I/O = 0X0170  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
    I/O = 0X0376  Len =   1  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16

      Device: HD_0 Hard Drive   FIXED  DISK

      Device: ATAPI_0 IDE CDROM Drive   FIXED  CDROM

    Adapter: AIC7870_0  Adaptec AIC7870
    Device Type: MS-SCSI        Bus/Width: PCI 32 BIT
    I/O = 0XD000  Len =  16  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16
    IRQ Level = 11  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = SHARED

      Device: DISK_(3,0)  iomega   jaz 1GB          G.60      DISK

/END

I dont have a secondary master, so why is rmview reporting a "Hard
Drive"?


Robert,

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From: Mackan@SpamMeNot.se                               05-Oct-99 11:37:29
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 10:27:11
Subj: Installing FIX-pack

From: "Mackan" <Mackan@SpamMeNot.se>

Hello there

I was trying to install the fixpack (fixpack 11 for os/2 warp 4.) , not
using diskettes or the web.
There was a way described in a readme-fil that followed the FIX141-disk.
And that I instead used a program called SVdisk, that faked a DISK-drive, to
make it possible
to unpack the disketts to the local harddrive.

Then when I'm trying to run SERVICE it will not update the system, I get the
following error
"Error opening ir creating logfile" in the "Corrective Service Facility
Message".

I have made the SET's that are necessary, but I'll not work anyway.
The instructions that I've been testing are included in the readme file is
as follows :
--------------------------------------
  First, setup a directory to hold the FixTool code. For example,
  run the following to place the FixTool into the d:\csf directory.

|       cs_141.exe d:\csf

  Next, setup the FixPak directory using the diskette images.
        loaddskf xr_w035.1dk j: /f/y/q
        xcopy j: d:\xr_w035\ /h/o/t/s/e/r/v
        loaddskf xr_w035.2dk j: /f/y/q
        xcopy j: d:\xr_w035\ /h/o/t/s/e/r/v
        ...
        ...
        ...        <repeat for each disk image in the FixPak>

  Install the FixPak by running service.exe.
        set csfutilpath=d:\csf
        set csfcdromdir=d:\xr_w035
        d:
        cd csf
        service  (or start service)
---------------------------------------
End Readme-file.

Any suggestions how to succseed in applying a fixpack is very helpful.
I have applyed the FIXpack 7 on this computer, but that was a year ago, and
I did use disketts then, but I hade disketts,
so I wanna figure this out, so I don't have to use the disks.
Why havn't IBM figured out an easy way to upgrade OS/2.

any suggestions or tips please mail them to
arkus.forsblom@nospam.com  ----> Important : Change the "nospam" to "TELIA"
!!!



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From: prather@infi.net                                  05-Oct-99 12:35:25
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 11:34:06
Subj: Re: Remote Svc Management?

From: prather@infi.net (Jerry Prather)

In message <Iw6K3.11308$48.240575@news2.rdc1.on.home.com> -
alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor) writes:
:>
:>On Fri, 01 Oct 1999 21:34:14 GMT, George Barrowcliff <barrowcl@flash.net>
wrote:
:>> Does anyone have any experience using the IBM Remote Support for OS/2 that
:>> they advertise in the Warp 4 box?  The version supplied by International
:>> Software Solutions in Florida?
:>> 
:>> I need access to the desktop of systems that are located remotely,  but
have
:>> modems installed.
:>
:>I've had no experience actually installing this or setting it up,
:>but a client company I was working at was trying this product out
:>for deployment for a while.  I used it a couple of times, and it's
:>a really nice product to use.  Works with OS/2 and Windows alike.
:>However, only the client end comes with Warp 4, you have to buy
:>the manager separately.
:>
:>The company eventually decided not to use this, because licensing
:>it for widespread deployment would have been ruinously expensive
:>(apparently it's a very costly bit of software).  They went with
:>Netfinity instead, which they already had licenses for anyway.
:>(It seems to be free now, too...)
:>
:>Note that both of these were used over LAN/WAN connections.  I've
:>no experience using either over a modem, although I suspect
:>Netfinity, at least, would be  v e r y  s l o w...

I bought the RSM software (the LITE version) to do exactly this. 
I was running it between an ancient 486/25 with WARP 3 and my
main machine (AMD K6 2 / 350, Warp4), using their 28.8 modems. 
You are right, it was very slow.  But it does do a nice job of
transfering/synchronizing files for distant computers while I
sleep <G>.

Jerry Prather                    prather@infi.net

"Many religions are worth dying for; no religion is worth killing
for."
					- Me (circa 1998)

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From: mark@premark.freeserve.co.uk                      05-Oct-99 13:45:02
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 11:34:06
Subj: Hard drive wont play games. Help.

From: "Mark" <mark@premark.freeserve.co.uk>

Hi
I have 3 hard drives I am using on a computer with
Windows 95. But this computer does not have a
CD Rom drive and I would like to reconfigure one of
the drives to make the computer think that the drive
is a CD Rom drive so that I can play the games I have
installed on it.

The problem is I have copied games to my Windows 95
pc from the CD Rom drive on my Windows 98 pc. The
games are copied to the hard drive (all of the files on the
cd are copied) and are successfully installed, but when
I initialize the game and press 'play' I get an error message
telling me that the CD cant be found, even though all of the
necessary files are there on the hard drive.

Maybe Im doing it all wrong. Can a hard drive be used in
place of a CD Rom drive in this way? I would appreciate
any advise. Thank you.
MARK.


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From: mark@premark.freeserve.co.uk                      05-Oct-99 13:47:17
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 11:34:06
Subj: Hard drive wont play games. Help.

From: "Mark" <mark@premark.freeserve.co.uk>

Hi
I have 3 hard drives I am using on a computer with
Windows 95. But this computer does not have a
CD Rom drive and I would like to reconfigure one of
the drives to make the computer think that the drive
is a CD Rom drive so that I can play the games I have
installed on it.

The problem is I have copied games to my Windows 95
pc from the CD Rom drive on my Windows 98 pc. The
games are copied to the hard drive (all of the files on the
cd are copied) and are successfully installed, but when
I initialize the game and press 'play' I get an error message
telling me that the CD cant be found, even though all of the
necessary files are there on the hard drive.

Maybe Im doing it all wrong. Can a hard drive be used in
place of a CD Rom drive in this way? I would appreciate
any advise. Thank you.
MARK.




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From: mark@premark.freeserve.co.uk                      05-Oct-99 13:47:09
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 11:34:06
Subj: Hard drive wont play games. Help.

From: "Mark" <mark@premark.freeserve.co.uk>

Hi
I have 3 hard drives I am using on a computer with
Windows 95. But this computer does not have a
CD Rom drive and I would like to reconfigure one of
the drives to make the computer think that the drive
is a CD Rom drive so that I can play the games I have
installed on it.

The problem is I have copied games to my Windows 95
pc from the CD Rom drive on my Windows 98 pc. The
games are copied to the hard drive (all of the files on the
cd are copied) and are successfully installed, but when
I initialize the game and press 'play' I get an error message
telling me that the CD cant be found, even though all of the
necessary files are there on the hard drive.

Maybe Im doing it all wrong. Can a hard drive be used in
place of a CD Rom drive in this way? I would appreciate
any advise. Thank you.
MARK.




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From: mariah_holt@hotmail.com                           05-Oct-99 08:24:17
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 11:34:06
Subj: Re: Hard drive wont play games. Help.

From: "Mariah Holt" <mariah_holt@hotmail.com>

Yea you can sometimes use subst to make the dir act like a new drive.
Or find a tiny program called fakecd.exe thats how we use to do it back in
the old days.





Mark wrote in message <7tcrvd$vj9$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>Hi
>I have 3 hard drives I am using on a computer with
>Windows 95. But this computer does not have a
>CD Rom drive and I would like to reconfigure one of
>the drives to make the computer think that the drive
>is a CD Rom drive so that I can play the games I have
>installed on it.
>
>The problem is I have copied games to my Windows 95
>pc from the CD Rom drive on my Windows 98 pc. The
>games are copied to the hard drive (all of the files on the
>cd are copied) and are successfully installed, but when
>I initialize the game and press 'play' I get an error message
>telling me that the CD cant be found, even though all of the
>necessary files are there on the hard drive.
>
>Maybe Im doing it all wrong. Can a hard drive be used in
>place of a CD Rom drive in this way? I would appreciate
>any advise. Thank you.
>MARK.
>
>


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From: sbowring+nospam@mpc-data.co.uk                    05-Oct-99 15:56:14
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 14:43:29
Subj: Re: GIMP, XFree86, GhostScript HELP PLEASE.

From: "Simon Bowring" <sbowring+nospam@mpc-data.co.uk>

>I am trying to open a .EPS file in GIMP.  After getting 
>XFree86/XWindows/GIMP setup, the first try said that it couldn't find 
>gs.exe (ghostscript) so I installed ghostscript for X11 from Hobbes.  
>Didn't work.  I have been advised that ghostscript 5.5 for OS/2 will 
>work under XWindows but I'm not convinced of that since the 
>executables have different names (I need it to work in conjuction 
>(seamlessly) with GIMP which wants to call gs.exe to interpret the 
>encapsulated postscript file.)

Ghostscript isn't a GUI program, and as such will "work under X
windows"!

GhostView is a GUI front-end to gs.exe and an OS/2 Presentation
Manager version is available - this won't work under X.

I imagine (but don't know) that the OS/2 X version is also a 
front end for gs.exe.

Regards

Simon Bowring


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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               05-Oct-99 12:16:27
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 14:43:29
Subj: n-way systems? Was: SMP Motherboards and OS/2

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

Trevor Hemsley wrote:

> On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 18:36:55 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote:
>
> ->> Is there a list of SMP Motherboards that work well with OS/2?  All I
> ->> could glean from DejaNews was that the Gigabyte boards were unstable and
>
> I've used Tyan and Supermicro. Both work just fine.
>

How about MULTIprocessors (as opposed to dual)?
I would like to hear from users of n-way systems of both the older OS/2
versions
and WSeB.
There are a number of parameters I feel I need to know more about, such as the
impact of different cache strategies, size of RAM and bus load.


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From: Novosad @server030.fwb.saic.com                   05-Oct-99 14:21:16
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 14:43:29
Subj: Re: Toolbar-Palette Position

From: Novosad @server030.fwb.saic.com

In <geribeurzfyrlqvnycvcrkpbz.fj3qqv3.pminews@news.dial.pipex.com>, "Trevor
Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com> writes:

>->    Warp 4, Fixpack 5.  Any ideas where the Toolbar
>->position is stored or how to change/Fix it?
>
>Follow these instructions _exactly_...
>
> 1) Ctrl-Esc to get the tasklist
> 2) Highlight the Launchpad line
> 3) Hold Shift and double click on the Launchpad line to minimise it
> 4) Right click on the Launchpad line and select close
> 5) Doubleclick on a blank bit of desktop to get the launchpad active
>again
>
>
>Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
>(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)

Thank You!  Worked exactly as I wanted.

This is so close to some of the things I tried...
(Where is this documented?  Presumably to find
other minor hints and to avoid up coming questions
the next time I do something.)

Steve

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From: Novosad @server030.fwb.saic.com                   05-Oct-99 14:27:23
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 14:43:29
Subj: Re: Toolbar-Palette Position

From: Novosad @server030.fwb.saic.com

Thank You!  Worked exactly as I wanted.

This is so close to some of the things I tried...
(Where is this documented?  Presumably to find
other minor hints and to avoid up coming questions
the next time I do something.)

Steve

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From: gail.koontz@quancon.com                           05-Oct-99 11:43:22
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 14:43:29
Subj: Error after Xfree 3.3.5 install

From: "Gail Koontz" <gail.koontz@quancon.com>

Using WARP 4, I installed Xfree 3.3.5 over 3.3.2, which was working (at least
to the extent of getting the window manager loaded and having things like the
clock running). Now I get a gray screen with an X in it and nothing else.
I've checked to make sure that xf86config didn't get covered up and that
everything in config.sys is still pointing to the right places. I'm using a
Permedia chip (Elsa Gloria Synergy) at 1024x768, and the server code for that
(xf86_3dlabs.exe) doesn't appear to have changed. I'm using the latest
version of EMX. Can anyone give me a hint what might be wrong? I'd really
like to get this working so that I could install GIMP.

Sorry that this will be long, but here are the relevant config.sys entries
(except for those in the PATH and  LIBPATH statements) and the two error
logs.

REM ** The following lines set up XFree **
REM ** There are additional entries in PATH and LIBPATH
DEVICE=G:\XFree86\lib\xf86sup.sys
SET TERM=ansi
SET TERMCAP=G:/XFree86/lib/X11/etc/emx.termcap.x11
SET USER=koontz
SET LOGNAME=koontz
SET HOME=G:\XFree86\user\koontz
SET X11ROOT=G:
SET DISPLAY=localhost:0.0
SET XSERVER=G:/XFree86/bin/XF86_3DLabs.exe
SET MANPATH=G:/XFree86/man
SET HOSTNAME=localhost
REM ** End XFree lines **

Error log (don't know why the beginning includes what was in the clipboard -
twice):

XFree86 Version 3.3.3 / X Window
http://goeurope.about.com/travel/europe/goeurope/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=h
ttp://www.citadines.com/http://goeurope.about.com/travel/europe/goeurope/gi/dy
namic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.citadines.com/System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: November 13 1998
	If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
	than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
	problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: OS/2 IBM
Configured drivers:
  GLINT: accelerated server for 3DLabs GLINT graphics adapters
(Patchlevel 0)
xf86-OS/2: gethostname() returns: "localhost"
xf86-OS/2: DISPLAY to listen is set to: "localhost:0.0"
xf86-OS/2: gethostbyname() returns the following data:
xf86-OS/2:    official host name: "localhost"
xf86-OS/2:    addr type = 2,  addr length = 4
xf86-OS/2:      Internet address: "127.0.0.1"
xf86-OS/2: Console opened
xf86-OS/2: Keyboard opened
xf86-OS/2: Started Vio thread, Tid=2
xf86-OS/2: Started hard error Vio mode monitor thread, Tid=3
xf86-OS/2: Started Kbd monitor thread, Tid=4
xf86-OS/2: Started Kbd bit-bucket thread, Tid=5
xf86-OS/2: Opened kbd monitor, rc=0
xf86-OS/2: Kbd monitor registered, rc=0
xf86-OS/2: Kbd Queue created, rc=0
XF86Config: G:/XFree86/lib/X11/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: keymap: "xfree86(us)" (overrides other XKB settings)
(**) OsMouse selected for mouse input

(**) GLINT: Graphics device ID: "ELSA GLoria Synergy"
(**) GLINT: Monitor ID: "IIyama Vision Master Pro17"
(--) GLINT: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 93.75 kHz. Deleted.
(--) GLINT: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 105.77 kHz. Deleted.
(--) GLINT: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 107.16 kHz. Deleted.
(--) GLINT: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 96.15 kHz. Deleted.
(--) GLINT: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 104.52 kHz. Deleted.
(**) FontPath set to
"G:/XFree86/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,G:/XFree86/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,G:/XF
ree86/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,G:/XFree86/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,G:/XFree8
6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
(--) GLINT: found TI chip GLINT Permedia 2 at card #0 func #0 with base
0xe3000000
_X11TransOs2OpenClient: Open server pipe \PIPE\xf86.0 failed, rc=3
_X11Trans	Probable causes: either the XServer is not running, or has
not started properly,
_X11Trans	or the DISPLAY variable is set incorrectly.
_X11TransOpen: transport open failed for local/localhost:0

waiting for X server to begin accepting connections .

Process terminated by SIGTERM

xf86log.os2:

xf86-OS/2: xf86MapVidMem succeeded: (ScreenNum= 0, Base= 0xe3000000, Size=
0x40000
(--) GLINT: Framebuffer address at 0xe2000000
(--) GLINT: videoram : 8192k
(--) GLINT: Using builtin RAMDAC of Permedia 2 chip
(--) GLINT: Fitted Memory type is : SGRAM
(--) GLINT: VGA core is : Enabled
(--) GLINT: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 230.000 MHz
(**) GLINT: Cannot support interlaced modes, deleting.
(**) GLINT: Cannot support interlaced modes, deleting.
(**) GLINT: Cannot support interlaced modes, deleting.
(**) GLINT: Mode "1024x768": mode clock = 115.500
(**) GLINT: Mode "800x600": mode clock =  69.650
(**) GLINT: Mode "640x480": mode clock =  45.800
xf86-OS/2: xf86MapVidMem succeeded: (ScreenNum= 0, Base= 0xa0000, Size=
0x10000
xf86-OS/2: xf86MapVidMem succeeded: (ScreenNum= 0, Base= 0xe2000000, Size=
0x800000
(--) GLINT: Using XAA (XFree86 Acceleration Architecture)
(--) GLINT: XAA: Solid filled rectangles
(--) GLINT: XAA: Screen-to-screen copy
(--) GLINT: XAA: Using 8 128x128 areas for pixmap caching
(--) GLINT: XAA: Caching tiles and non-transparent stipples
(--) GLINT: XAA: Horizontal and vertical lines and segments
xf86-OS/2: OsMouse has 3 button(s).
xf86-OS/2: Started Mouse event thread, Tid=6
xf86-OS/2: Mouse Queue created, rc=0
Command line for XKB is G:\XFree86\lib\X11\xkb\xkbcomp -w 1
-RG:\XFree86\lib\X11\xkb -xkm -m us -em1 "The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler
(xkbcomp) reports:" -emp "> " -eml "Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the
X server" keymap/xfree86 compiled/xfree86.xkm




Gail Koontz		Retired in my home state
836 Mallard Rd.		 . . . and loving it!
Cocoa, FL 32926	gail.koontz@quancon.com



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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        05-Oct-99 16:01:01
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 14:43:29
Subj: Re: BootManager vs. LILO

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 21:49:02 -0400 (EDT), OS/2 Fan <fat_ox@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for responding!  I am using a boot floppy to load Linux.  I
> think the damage to the disk 1 MBR was done by DOS/Win fdisk, but am
> not sure.  I did make the linux partitions on disk 2 while in OS/2,
> with Partition Magic, and added the / partition to the BM menu within
> Partition Magic.  One thing I've thought of are DOS utilities that
> allow one to boot linux from DOS, but I don't know if OS/2's DOS VDM
> will allow that sort of thing (doubt it...).  What about putting LILO
> in the HD1 MBR and using it to launch OS/2 and WinNT and Linux,
> instead of BootManager?  Anyone doing this successfully?  Thanks for
> any advice!

Yes, you can replace Boot Manager with LILO if you really want.
I did that for a short time and it works fine, although it's
kind of unattractive-looking.  

First things first, though.  You've made a couple of offhand comments
that you can't install LILO to the / partition.  Why not?  What's
the error?

I've never used Partition Magic, so I can't really comment on 
whatever you did with it.

A previous suggestion was made that you use PM to ensure every partition
ends on a cylinder boundery, and that sounds like an excellent idea.
This could be what's confusing OS/2 FDISK.

But really, before you do anything else, I think you should concentrate
on solving your LILO problem, and getting it installed successfully.
A description of the error and the contents of your lilo.conf would be
helpful...

Once that's out of the way, we can start looking at the Boot Manager
problem.

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 Alex Taylor                  BA - CIS - University of Guelph
 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               05-Oct-99 14:01:13
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:10
Subj: Re: New monitor questions

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

Raphael Tennenbaum wrote:


> Refresh rates is something else I've never understood -- of
> course I should be used to higher numbers meaning faster,
> but in this case since I'm running at 85 Hz already, I guess
> it means that switching to 75 (60 certainly) might be a
> noticeable slowdown.  Definitely good to know I probably
> should avoid the $220 one with only 60Hz refresh, I guess.
>

It is not really as simple as that - refresh rate has become a selling
point, but there are more ways to reduce flicker. The best and cheapest is
to use the monitor in a room with subdued lighting. With low ambient light
- less than half the usually recommended foroffices, combined with a
non-glare desk lamp to illuminate your paperwork - the lifespan of the
monitor is dramatically improved. A monitor adjusted for use in low
ambient light will also give better sharpness than the same monitor used
in strong light.

Early CAD systems had to be used in rather dark rooms in order to have
sufficient resolution at all, but it is still a good idea to avoid
brightly lit rooms. For the same monitor and refresh rate, flicker
increases dramatically as you turn up brightness and contrast. Done right,
working in low ambient light (incandescent, because fluorescent has a
flicker of its own which will make screen flicker more noticeable) will be
less fatigueing at the same time as you save money.

One thing is the electricity bill, which is not an issue here (it provides
necessary heating, so most of the year room lighting is "free") but may be
important in other places. Having an expensive monitor last twice as long
is more important. Not only is picture tube bun-in and -out dramatically
reduced, the monitor electronics are drawing much less power (thus running
cooler) as well.

Another important factor is the quality of the phosphors used in the
picture tube. Cheap monitors will often use TV-quality phosphors, which
will give more flicker. On the other hand, some tubes which are optimized
for colour accuracy may have too long persistence at high brightness,
which will be annoying in moving images. The really good ones will have
good short-time persistence, and very low long-time persistence.

In the cinema, you will watch a large image at 24 fps with each picture
shown twice for a 48 fps flicker frequency. This works almost like a
"perfect persistence" phosphor - full brightness followed by a brief total
cutoff while the frame is changed.


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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     05-Oct-99 16:37:11
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:10
Subj: Re: Help: OS/2 hangs at IBMIDECD.FLT with new cdrom

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 07:13:28, Robert Dohrenburg 
<rdohrenburg@hotmail.com> wrote:

>     Adapter: IDE_1 ST506/IDE Controller
>     Device Type: MS-IDE         Bus/Width: PCI 16 BIT
>     IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED
>     I/O = 0X0170  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
>     I/O = 0X0376  Len =   1  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
>  
>       Device: HD_0 Hard Drive   FIXED  DISK
>  
>       Device: ATAPI_0 IDE CDROM Drive   FIXED  CDROM
> 
Now this is strange. This says you have a hard drive on the second 
controller, which is a master, and the DVD drive is a slave on the 
same interface. You did say that you have two hard drives on the first
controller, and ONLY the DVD drive on the second, did you not?

Does this device have a jumper to indicate whether it has a slave, 
while it is a master??? If you have only the DVD drive on that 
interface, it should work as a MASTER, without a SLAVE.

If that doesn't apply, I have no idea what is happening.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: flywheel@image.dk                                 05-Oct-99 17:12:20
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:10
Subj: Re: Installing FIX-pack

From: Peter Jespersen <flywheel@image.dk>

Dominique Pivard wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:37:58, "Mackan" <Mackan@SpamMeNot.se> wrote:
> >
> > Then when I'm trying to run SERVICE it will not update the system, I get
the
> > following error
> > "Error opening ir creating logfile" in the "Corrective Service Facility
> > Message".
> 
> You may have a problem with the files LOGF0000.OS2 and LOGSTART.OS2 in
> \OS2\INSTALL and/or LOGF0000.MPM and LOGSTART.MPM in \MMOS2\INSTALL.
> Try to delete them and see what happens.
> 
> I'm using SVD when applying fixpacks and it works fine.

Another way is to use fastkick, wich includes a utility that
enables you to decompress the dsk-files without having to use a
virtual floppy. Also it has got an extended SERVICE that enables
you to install the fixpack directly from the harddrive, it
replaces the fixtool!

Search for fastkick141.zip on hobbes, for the latest version!

But ofcause you still have to delete the log-files before
applying the FP!

-- 

Live long and prosper...

_________________________________________________________________

Peter Jespersen, Team OS/2 Denmark
flywheel@image.dk
http://www.image.dk/~flywheel/
Consciousness: that annoying time between naps.
_________________________________________________________________

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 05-Oct-99 17:18:10
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:10
Subj: Re: n-way systems? Was: SMP Motherboards and OS/2

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <37F9D014.5B95B832@powertech.no>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo
<bvermo@powertech.no> writes:
>Trevor Hemsley wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 18:36:55 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote:
>>
>> ->> Is there a list of SMP Motherboards that work well with OS/2?  All I
>> ->> could glean from DejaNews was that the Gigabyte boards were unstable
and
>>
>> I've used Tyan and Supermicro. Both work just fine.
>>
>
>How about MULTIprocessors (as opposed to dual)?
>I would like to hear from users of n-way systems of both the older OS/2
versions
>and WSeB.
>There are a number of parameters I feel I need to know more about, such as
the
>impact of different cache strategies, size of RAM and bus load.
>

I have seen testing showing that three 256K PPro 200's are faster than
four due to memory starvation. 512K or more was a different story. Kind 
of dampened my interest in a Goldenrod.


--
Hrad ngravvrd



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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     05-Oct-99 16:37:12
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Re: Hard drive wont play games. Help.

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 12:45:04, "Mark" <mark@premark.freeserve.co.uk> 
wrote:

> Maybe Im doing it all wrong. Can a hard drive be used in
> place of a CD Rom drive in this way? I would appreciate
> any advise. Thank you.
> MARK.
> 

Well, the FIRST thing you did wrong, was ask this in a couple of OS/2 
news groups. Here, we suggest that you FORMAT any drive that contains 
Win95, and/or Win98 <g>.

You might get some better answers if you ask in a Windows newsgroup...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: lviolette@syntellect.com                          05-Oct-99 09:54:09
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Merlin Installation WOES!  Please help if you can.

From: "Leo Violette" <lviolette@syntellect.com>

I have a Micron Millennia PII-450 with a Western Digital Caviar AC313000R
(13GB) hard disk.  I have updated my OS/2 boot disks with the latest idedasd
drivers.  Here is the installation scenario:

I go into advanced and setup my hard disk with fdisk and choose a boot
partition.  I set it up with the first 855 MB of the drive being my boot
partition and I call it Warp4, the rest of the disk is left unpartitioned.
After rebooting, I get to the welcome screen and press <ENTER> and it often
will give me a SYS0045: Drive D: cannot find the sector requested.  I then
hit <retry> and it usually continues to the Installing OS/2 Warp 4 menu
where I can select 2. Advanced Installation.  After selecting 2, I select
'Accept the drive.'  Then, I often get another SYS0045: Drive D: cannot find
the sector requested error.  I do Retry a few times, until I get to the menu
where I can choose FAT or HPFS.  I choose FAT for simplicity.  It says that
it formats it, and then continues to copy all the files from the CD.  Since
I have updated drivers on my floppies, it also eventually asks me to insert
floppies 1 and 2 so that it can copy those over.  When it finishes copying
the files and scanning my computer, it tells me to remove any floppy disks
so the computer can reboot and continue installation, it fails.  It is never
able to boot off the hard drive.  The computer either reports a 'Missing
operating system' or just hangs with a blank screen and a flashing cursor.
I never see the loading OS/2 insignia that occurrs when attempting to boot
from the hard drive.

Here are a couple of sites relating to my drive parameters:
http://www.westerndigital.com/products/drives/AC313000.htm
http://www.westerndigital.com/service/tip0998.html
http://www.westerndigital.com/fitness/wdata66.html

Any help would be much appreciated.
Leo V.
leov@primenet dot com




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From: rlalla@stepnet.REMOVETHIS.de                      05-Oct-99 21:44:25
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Re: enhanced USB driver: looking for testers

From: "Robert Lalla" <rlalla@stepnet.REMOVETHIS.de>

On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 19:02:07 GMT, Tim Katz wrote:

>  Will this new driver support hot-plug of USB devices, like Win98 does,
>or will the items need to be plugged in when the system is booted up?

All USB drivers for OS/2 support "hot-plugging".
But "on-demand" loading of device drivers is not supported.
So you need to write into config.sys the USB device drivers
for all devices that might be plugged in later at runtime.

--
RL


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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      05-Oct-99 20:56:17
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Re: New monitor questions

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Raphael Tennenbaum [AT&T WorldNet Services] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

 I do appreciate your advice, Martin, especially considering
 the vehemence of a flame or two I have directed at you in
 the past. 

Seriously; no hard feelings from my part at all. Besides my memory not being
the best one (random access as people often calls it) I probably deserved them
to some extent, and if not I'm sure I flamed back telling you why not! :-)
 
 in fact on one of the cheaper 17" Philips models (if my bid
 holds up).  And if it doesn't, I'll continue exploring. 

Take a good look at the 107MB monitor (rather good color balance and does
1280x1024 at 80Hz with .22 dot pitch) or the cheaper, I think about 2/3 of the
price of all the better 17" monitors from Philips, 107S (not perfect, but OK
value for the money).

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.0: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:-)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.sbbs2.com/mn      
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw

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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      05-Oct-99 20:56:13
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Re: New monitor questions

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

hamei@pacbell.net [SBC Internet Services] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

 are you acquainted with the Mitsubishi 19" *flat* screen (900u maybe ?)

I'm sorry, but I have personally never worked with any Mitsubishi monitor at
all so I haven't even had a chance to take a peek at them. That said, so far
at least, I have only heard very great of them so I think you absolutely
should take a closer look at it!

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.0: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:-)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.sbbs2.com/mn      
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw

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From: r.dunham@onsemi.com                               05-Oct-99 11:17:10
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Hardware Mgr Problem....

From: "Richard M. Dunham" <r.dunham@onsemi.com>

Recently, I installed NT4 and then OS2 with Boot Manager on my TP385XD.
My 385 has a 3.2GB HD w/96MB ram, FP11, DDPak 1, etc.  Installation
proceeded normally and all appeared to be working correctly until I
looked at the folder for the HW Mgr.  All icons appeared as large black
dots.  If I open the folder in the icon view all black icons then turn
into large red icons with an "FS" in the center.

Next I checked the properties of an item in HD Mgr and then an error
message appears stating:

The system was unable to show settings for the object.  The system may
be out of resources.  OK CANCEL HELP

I've check the system out for IRQs, I/Os, etc using RMVIEW but I don't
see any problems with the setup.  Have tried changing the PCI buss IRQ
but no difference was noted.  Also REM'd out the USB drivers in the
CONFIG.SYS-no difference.

If you have any suggestions on this situation please let me know.

Regards:  Dick

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From: fat_ox@hotmail.com                                05-Oct-99 21:27:07
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Re: BootManager vs. LILO

From: "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com>

Thanks for the tips!  I followed the previous advice and got the IDE
fix, and now can run fdiskpm.exe without errors on the first drive. 
So I partitioned the second drive and rebooted, then formatted the
partitions in OS/2 (fat, I just wanted OS/2 to know they were there
and formatted), then tried reinstalling Linux 5.2 off the RedHat CD. 
Same story with LILO, the error was "An error occured while
installing LILO in /dev/hdb1" or something close to those words, so I
had to skip (retry did nothing new).  When I finished the install and
rebooted and picked the / partition off of BootManager's menu, same
story, "Selected partition is unformatted, press any key" and back to
BootManager it goes.  I'll try moving the boundaries around again and
see what happens, then post the LILO conf. file's contents too if I
get stuck again.  Thanks very much and wish me luck, here I go!... 
:)


On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 16:01:02 GMT, Alex Taylor wrote:

>On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 21:49:02 -0400 (EDT), OS/2 Fan <fat_ox@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>> Thanks for responding!  I am using a boot floppy to load Linux.  I
>> think the damage to the disk 1 MBR was done by DOS/Win fdisk, but am
>> not sure.  I did make the linux partitions on disk 2 while in OS/2,
>> with Partition Magic, and added the / partition to the BM menu within
>> Partition Magic.  One thing I've thought of are DOS utilities that
>> allow one to boot linux from DOS, but I don't know if OS/2's DOS VDM
>> will allow that sort of thing (doubt it...).  What about putting LILO
>> in the HD1 MBR and using it to launch OS/2 and WinNT and Linux,
>> instead of BootManager?  Anyone doing this successfully?  Thanks for
>> any advice!
>
>Yes, you can replace Boot Manager with LILO if you really want.
>I did that for a short time and it works fine, although it's
>kind of unattractive-looking.  
>
>First things first, though.  You've made a couple of offhand comments
>that you can't install LILO to the / partition.  Why not?  What's
>the error?
>
>I've never used Partition Magic, so I can't really comment on 
>whatever you did with it.
>
>A previous suggestion was made that you use PM to ensure every partition
>ends on a cylinder boundery, and that sounds like an excellent idea.
>This could be what's confusing OS/2 FDISK.
>
>But really, before you do anything else, I think you should concentrate
>on solving your LILO problem, and getting it installed successfully.
>A description of the error and the contents of your lilo.conf would be
>helpful...
>
>Once that's out of the way, we can start looking at the Boot Manager
>problem.
>
>-- 
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
> Alex Taylor                  BA - CIS - University of Guelph
> alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
>-----------------------------------------------------------------

Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan
	
Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, 
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, 
and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.  


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From: fjones@onlink.net                                 05-Oct-99 13:35:23
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: System "Freeze" -> PCI Video Card incompatible??

From: "Frank Jones" <fjones@onlink.net>

Well, here I am again, still attempting to discover why the system freezes
(usually on a D&D or, more often, in Winos2). Of, course, my inability to
comprehend ?simple? hardware specifications may have a lot to do with the
long passage of time between getting the problem and finding out why the
problem occurs - not to mention my obviously "knee-jerk" response of
reinstalling Warp4, and getting Win95 installed so I had something the
store that sold me the MB could possibly work with....

Anyway, the motherboard specs says:
  "... To install a PCI card, you need to set something called the INT
(interrupt) assignement. Since all the PCI slots on this motherboard use
an INTA #, be sure that the ,jumpers on your PCI cards are set to INTA.
..."

and the Video card specs says: 
 "J2 allows you to enable/disable INTA. Close J2 to enable INTA. INTA is
disabled by default. ..." 

This specification covers two possible cards: CL-GD54M30 & CL-GD5440 -
trouble is, I have now discoverd that I do not own the GD5440 but that I
have the GD54M30 and there is NO J2 Jumper on that card.... 
   
I downloaded a pdf file from the Cirrus Logic site that purported to be a
more detailed description of the card(s), but it contained no mention of
either CL-GD54M30 or INTA; there is also a technical manual at the site
that is 3.7MB, but I think I should go ahead and purchase that Matrox
Millennium AGP 200 card I've been putting off buying, and hope my problem
is solved, rather than spend another half-hour downloading the manual,
only to find I don't understand it or that it also contains no mention of
those (to my little mind) highly important specifics, after all, in either
case,  it's only money right?...

For those that read this far; my system presently is:

 ASUS P2B-B Motherboard with Pentium II/Celeron 366mhz chip.
 Video Adapter: Cirrus Logic PCI VGA CL-GD54M30 with 1MB memory,
 External USR 56K fax-modem on COM2
 Serial mouse on COM1
 Lexmark 3200 colour inkjet on LPT1
 CDROM: Creative Labs (aka Matsushita) 4x cdrom 
 Hard Drive: 4.3gig SMART capable Quantum Fireball
 formatted as: ||BM||Win95||OS2||data{FAT16}||data{HPFS}||free space||
 OS: Warp4 with NO fixpacks applied...

Problem: system freezes when using Word6 under Winos2; also on an initial
powerup I get a black screen after the OS2 "blob", it can take 2or3 resets
to get the OS/2 logo to display (though it seems that using Hardware
detection [F5 from the Alt+F1 screen] will cause the logo to load OK the
freeze can then sometimes happen doing any mouse operation in OS/2-PM);
Win95 freezes on any Drag&drop operation. and has also frozen when I tried
to run one of the pgms that came with the Lexmark printer..... ( oh, and
Alt+F2 NEVER works when the logo does not show up)

   
Grace to you all,
-- 
Frank.
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Frank Jones" <fjones@onlink.net>
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     05-Oct-99 20:07:25
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Re: Adding NT safely to a Warp 4 machine

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 18:29:26 -0700, Graham C. Norris wrote:

->Trevor Hemsley wrote:
->> Don't let NT's install create a partition for you. It *might* work but I
->> prefer to know that it will not depend on "might". Create the partition
->> with OS/2's FDISK. I usually make a point of setting that to be the active
->> partition (startable in OS/2 FDISK terminology). Perform the install and
->> then use OS/2's FDISK to set Boot Manager back as the startable partition
->> again (from a floppy disk boot). Don't use NT's Dick Administrator unless
->> you are forced to and if you are forced to then apply a later Service Pack
->> than 3 before you do.
->
->If he does this, NT will come along and want to reuse a primary
->partition, of which one is his HPFS partition, one will be a nominally
->empty one.

Not if you create the primary partition with OS/2's FDISK first (the
missing word "primary" I left out above).


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     05-Oct-99 20:15:02
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Re: Toolbar-Palette Position

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 03:17:00 GMT, Will Honea wrote:

->This reminds me:  I've got one system with one of those blasted
->unkillable green question marks on the toolbar - darned thing locks the
->system solid if I try to shred, move, or delete it.  I'm ready to delete
->the toolbar as that seems to be the only way out (tried about every
->other trick in the book) but how do I re-create the toolbar to start
->fresh? (Warp 4, btw).

Make sure that TOOLBAR is in the SET AUTOSTART= line when you next boot up
and then double click the desktop.


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     05-Oct-99 20:33:16
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Re: BootManager vs. LILO

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 21:27:15 -0400 (EDT), OS/2 Fan wrote:

-> I followed the previous advice and got the IDE
->fix, and now can run fdiskpm.exe without errors on the first drive. 
->So I partitioned the second drive and rebooted, then formatted the
->partitions in OS/2 (fat, I just wanted OS/2 to know they were there
->and formatted), then tried reinstalling Linux 5.2 off the RedHat CD. 
->Same story with LILO, the error was "An error occured while
->installing LILO in /dev/hdb1" or something close to those words, so I
->had to skip (retry did nothing new).  When I finished the install and
->rebooted and picked the / partition off of BootManager's menu, same
->story, "Selected partition is unformatted, press any key" and back to
->BootManager it goes.

The last few installs of Linux that I've one have been of SuSe and that
asks where to install LILO. You get the choice of the MBR of the first
drive (no useful if you have OS/2's Boot Manager installed), or the boot
sector of the root partition. Selecting the second of these asks if you
want to install LILO in the extended partition or in the logical drive.
It's the second option that you need.


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu                      05-Oct-99 19:54:14
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Re: Merlin Installation WOES! Please help if you can.

From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu

In article <7tdbct$n39$1@nnrp03.primenet.com>,
  "Leo Violette" <lviolette@syntellect.com> wrote:

Was there an OS on the disk previously?? You may not have a MBR on this
drive. The easiest way to see if this is a problem is to run "fdisk
/mbr". If the system boots, then that was one of your problems.

Come to think of it, I don't know if OS/2's fdisk will do this, but DOS
5+ will.

Good luck!

--
-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |Warpstock '99 | Oct 16-17|
hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |       Atlanta GA        |


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 05-Oct-99 17:05:24
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 19:53:18
Subj: Re: New monitor questions

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se> wrote:

>Raphael Tennenbaum [AT&T WorldNet Services] -> comp.os.os2.misc:
>
> I do appreciate your advice, Martin, especially considering
> the vehemence of a flame or two I have directed at you in
> the past. 
>
>Seriously; no hard feelings from my part at all. Besides my memory not being
>the best one (random access as people often calls it) 

That would explain a lot.  Er, I mean, never mind!  It
never happened!  What were we talking about?

> in fact on one of the cheaper 17" Philips models (if my bid
> holds up).  And if it doesn't, I'll continue exploring. 
>
>Take a good look at the 107MB monitor (rather good color balance and does
>1280x1024 at 80Hz with .22 dot pitch) or the cheaper, I think about 2/3 of
the
>price of all the better 17" monitors from Philips, 107S (not perfect, but OK
>value for the money).


107B from Phillips it is -- $148 plus shipping, not dirt-
cheap, but not bad.  It should get here in week and half or
so.



-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: jek404@usa.net                                    05-Oct-99 20:48:22
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 19:53:19
Subj: Warpstock '99 Atlanta 

From: "Johnny Kitchens" <jek404@usa.net>

Outstanding Software and Specials At Warpstock '99 Atlanta


Warpstock '99 Atlanta Press Release
October 5, 1999
For Immediate Release

Warpstock is THE place to find the latest OS/2 Software. You'll find both
new and updated software from a large assortment of vendors, and be ready to
buy because you won't believe the "show specials" that will be available for
Warpstock attendees!

For example, Hethmon Brothers will be offering their first class Inet.Mail
Pro 1.5 for $399, a full $100 off the normal retail price! Version 1.3 will
be also available at discounted prices. Inet.Mail Pro for OS/2 is a full
featured SMTP and POP3 server for OS/2.

Sundial Systems, the Warped Jeopardy! sponsor and major OS/2 software house
("Sundial has the Answers"), will show their full product line. Look for
outstanding savings on their Mesa 2 spreadsheet; DBExpert relational
database and application builder; Relish, RelishNet, and RelishWeb, all for
time management; the Clearlook word processor; and Rover Pack desktop
enhancements. Plus, get a sneak preview of a new anti-spam product,
code-named Kiwi.

Perfect Niche Software will offer an incredible discount on SMACK!, the easy
to use label printing program. The retail price of SMACK! is $69.95, but
Warpstock attendees can license SMACK! for only $44.95, a $25.00 savings!

Serenity Systems will be supporting a pavilion where more than a dozen ISVs
will demonstrate their applications on Managed Clients supported by
Serenity's amazing WiseManager system. Serenity will also demonstrate their
new WiseTalker Database Server, and will preview their Building Automation
and Security Software, including the "security camera" application. User and
prospective channel partners can look for some "show specials" as well.

And Theta Band software, with Julien Pierre at the helm, has planned special
discounts on their WarpCharge and MMPack software for Warpstock attendees.
WarpCharge lets your web site take credit card orders online, and MMPack is
a top-of-the-line multimedia package.

You'll also see IBM's latest products including OS/2 Warp Server for
e-business, and Workspace On-Demand. IBM is giving over a dozen
presentations, and it's a perfect opportunity for you to see the future
through IBM's eyes.

JBC Software Development will offer a fantastic 30% discount on their
HomePage Publisher and GpfRexx products. HomePage Publisher is the most
powerful OS/2 web page editor on the market. GpfRexx is a visual application
generator that combines the ease of a WYSIWYG visual programming environment
with the power of Rexx.

Also, Armin Schwarz of the Warped Code Cellar has announced discounted
pricing for his powerful House/2, House/290, and UPS Monitor products. Get
all three programs at Warpstock for only $34.00, and Warp your whole house!
HOUSE/2 is designed for easy operation of X10 home control devices, and UPS
Monitor is a utility program to monitor most American Power Conversion (APC)
Uninterruptible Power Sources (UPS) for power line status.

Aviar will showcase several unique OS/2 products including KidStuff for
OS/2, KidStuff for OS/2 Plus Pack, Oz of Prevention System, and "Object Rexx
by Example". The KidStuff titles are edutainment packages for little
children, while "Object Rexx by Example" is a book which teaches Object
Rexx. The Oz of Prevention System is the world's only OS/2 native
speech-aware Computerized Maintenance Management System for Plant Engineers,
Maintenance Managers, and Operations Personnel.

Uwe Schlenter has made special arrangements to provide drastically reduced
prices on his WarpNote, BioGraph/2, and PM Checksum programs. Plus you can
see Phoenix Software's Think Tool Pro desktop database alternative and
CrossTec's NetOp Remote Control for OS/2 remote control software.

With Software and Specials like these, you know you don't want to miss the
premier OS/2 event of the century, Warpstock '99 Atlanta!

OS/2 users from around the world will meet October 16-17 in Atlanta. Visit
http://www.warpstock.org for the complete information about this very
special OS/2 event.


# # # # #
Press release by Tom Bolick (tbolick@ibm.net).


Registration Rates and Deals! Warpstock Home


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From: pf@hempseed.com                                   05-Oct-99 20:18:24
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 19:53:19
Subj: Re: Long boot-up, no audio

From: pf <pf@hempseed.com>

> > All,
> > I am using a Pentium system but it seems excessively long to boot up, 3
> > 1/2 min, and my audio is missing. Here is my system setup:
> >
> > Intel P133 non MMX
> > 100mhz motherboard
> > no cache(hard stuff to find if it doesn't come with mb)

Take the cover off, and take it to a small PC shop. There's really only
two types of cache for these older MB's,  a knowledgeable PC guy will
know which -- or try both. The only problem when you put in the wrong
type is the PC won't boot; nothing gets screwed up.  For $10 in cache,
you'll be really happy with the result.

> > 32meg RAM
> > 4.3G Fuji HD, partioned in forths
> > SB-16 PCI Vibra
> > 1.44 floppy
> > IOMEGA IDE ZIP
> > Trident SVGA using the standard 8900 driver @ 256 colors
> >

Press ALT-F2 during the "boot blob" (that little white block that shows
in the upper left when os2 first starts to boot), and see which device
driver it is getting stuck on.  If it is IBM1S506.ADD, try the
replacment Danis506 (search hobbes).

I had a SB16 vibra for a while, and it worked.  Try removing all signs
of \MMOS2, and reinstalling mmos2 after you boot with "full hardware
detection" (hold down ALT-F1 during the boot-blob and select F5 from the
menu).

Here's the part of my config.sys from those days. I can't remember if
the line that is rem'ed out worked:

rem DEVICE=D:\MMOS2\SB16D2.SYS /C:1 /D:1 /H:5 /I:5 /A:220 /M:330
/N:SBAUD1$ /Q /P
DEVICE=D:\MMOS2\SB16D2.SYS /P /Q
DEVICE=D:\MMOS2\AUDIOVDD.SYS SBAUD1$


I believe "/Q" is "quiet" mode, so you might want to take that off while
you're debugging.

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From: pf@hempseed.com                                   05-Oct-99 20:29:12
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 19:53:19
Subj: Re: Merlin Installation WOES!  Please help if you can.

From: pf <pf@hempseed.com>

Leo Violette wrote:
> 
> I have a Micron Millennia PII-450 with a Western Digital Caviar AC313000R
> (13GB) hard disk.  I have updated my OS/2 boot disks with the latest idedasd
> drivers.  Here is the installation scenario:

I think you need more than just ibm1s506.add.  There's a whole new set
of install disks somewhere on IBM's site.

Also, do you have "SET COPYFROMFLOPPY=1" in config.sys on disk 1?  very
important; else it copies the old *.add from the cdrom.


> 
> I go into advanced and setup my hard disk with fdisk and choose a boot
> partition.  I set it up with the first 855 MB of the drive being my boot
> partition and I call it Warp4, the rest of the disk is left unpartitioned.
> After rebooting, I get to the welcome screen and press <ENTER> and it often
> will give me a SYS0045: Drive D: cannot find the sector requested.  I then
> hit <retry> and it usually continues to the Installing OS/2 Warp 4 menu
> where I can select 2. Advanced Installation.  After selecting 2, I select
> 'Accept the drive.'  Then, I often get another SYS0045: Drive D: cannot find
> the sector requested error.  I do Retry a few times, until I get to the menu
> where I can choose FAT or HPFS.  I choose FAT for simplicity.  It says that

Believe me, FAT will not simplify your life.  Once Windows goes anywhere
near the drive, you'll start loosing EA's,  then your Desktop will be
screwed up, if it will even boot.  Go HPFS.

> it formats it, and then continues to copy all the files from the CD.  Since
> I have updated drivers on my floppies, it also eventually asks me to insert
> floppies 1 and 2 so that it can copy those over.  When it finishes copying
> the files and scanning my computer, it tells me to remove any floppy disks
> so the computer can reboot and continue installation, it fails.  It is never
> able to boot off the hard drive.  The computer either reports a 'Missing
> operating system' or just hangs with a blank screen and a flashing cursor.
> I never see the loading OS/2 insignia that occurrs when attempting to boot
> from the hard drive.
> 
> Here are a couple of sites relating to my drive parameters:
> http://www.westerndigital.com/products/drives/AC313000.htm
> http://www.westerndigital.com/service/tip0998.html
> http://www.westerndigital.com/fitness/wdata66.html
> 
> Any help would be much appreciated.
> Leo V.
> leov@primenet dot com

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From: esitea@inficad.com                                04-Oct-99 22:23:19
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 19:53:19
Subj: Re: Adding NT safely to a Warp 4 machine

From: Ezra <esitea@inficad.com>


Ian Johnston,

Use OS/2's FDISK.EXE for this.  Create another primary partition.  Highlight
the
new primary partition and "Assign C:" from the file menu in FDISK.  Reboot
with
OS/2 boot disks and run FDISK just to make sure the Assign C: took properly.
Then you can format it FAT - FORMAT C: /FS:FAT /L.  Partition should be 2 gig
or
less.  I have only installed NT 4 where the installation only works with
partitions that can be formatted FAT during installation, hence 2.1 gig limit
applies.  I have heard that later releases allow larger partitions, but can't
confirm this.  IMO, do not use NT's install to create or modify partitions --
it
can't be trusted to get things right.  Use OS/2's FDISK to create the rest of
the partitions you will need.

>
> 1) Creating another primary partition on the first HD (should I use
>    Fdisk or the NT install stuff to do this?)
>
> 2) Installing NT on this
>

Once NT is installed, go to Disk Administrator, in the Start Menu under
Administrative Tools (or some such similarly named folder).  Reset the OS/2
Bootmanager to Active, under the file menu.  When you close DA, you will be
asked to write a signature to the disks.  In my experience, this has never
caused any problems with the IDE disks and HPFS partitions I had.  However, I
have heard otherwise from some users, so this is at your own risk.  When DA
finally closes, you MIGHT get a message that the partition numbers have
changed
and that your BOOT.INI file needs to updated.  BOOT.INI is located on the root
of C:, hidden, system, and readonly attributes are set.  ATTRIB -S -H -R
BOOT.INI and open in edit.exe (or notepad.exe) and make the changes that DA
told
you to make.  These changes must be made before the machine is restarted. Save
the file and reset the attributes to their +S +H +R states.  Sometimes the
changes to BOOT.INI are not needed, and you won't get the message to make any
changes.

>
> 3) Reactivating the Boot manager following directions in the NT install
>    handbook.
>

If you have formatted the second primary FAT and install NT, NT's installation
will report the HPFS partitions as "Damaged" and will not allow installation
to
those partitions unless you format them.  Just make sure you do not select one
of the HPFS partitions for installation and you should be fine.

>
> I am worried about making sure NT installs on the "right" primary partition,
> and doesn't scribble all over Warp.
>
> All advice and help gratefully received!
>
> Ian

Hope this helps,

Ezra

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From: lviolette@syntellect.com                          05-Oct-99 14:31:09
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 19:53:19
Subj: Re: Merlin Installation WOES!  Please help if you can.

From: "Leo Violette" <lviolette@syntellect.com>

pf <pf@hempseed.com> wrote in message news:37FA5FA4.68F6@hempseed.com...
> Leo Violette wrote:
> >
> > I have a Micron Millennia PII-450 with a Western Digital Caviar
AC313000R
> > (13GB) hard disk.  I have updated my OS/2 boot disks with the latest
idedasd
> > drivers.  Here is the installation scenario:
>
> I think you need more than just ibm1s506.add.  There's a whole new set
> of install disks somewhere on IBM's site.
>
> Also, do you have "SET COPYFROMFLOPPY=1" in config.sys on disk 1?  very
> important; else it copies the old *.add from the cdrom.
>

Thanks for the response.  Yes, I do have SET COPYFROMFLOPPY=1.  Also, these
are the updated files I have:
Inst Disk 1.
IBM1S506.ADD  55K 7/12/99 3:48pm
IBM1S506.SYM  12K 7/12/99 3:48pm
OS2DASD.DMD  40K 5/4/99 5:42pm
IBMIDECD.FLT  24K 3/22/99 5:10pm
Inst Disk 2.
OS2CDROM.DMD 28K 6/3/99 5:25pm
CDFS.IFS  45K 5/19/97 9:13pm
FDISK.COM  109K 11/19/96 10:33pm

>
> >
> > I go into advanced and setup my hard disk with fdisk and choose a boot
> > partition.  I set it up with the first 855 MB of the drive being my boot
> > partition and I call it Warp4, the rest of the disk is left
unpartitioned.
> > After rebooting, I get to the welcome screen and press <ENTER> and it
often
> > will give me a SYS0045: Drive D: cannot find the sector requested.  I
then
> > hit <retry> and it usually continues to the Installing OS/2 Warp 4 menu
> > where I can select 2. Advanced Installation.  After selecting 2, I
select
> > 'Accept the drive.'  Then, I often get another SYS0045: Drive D: cannot
find
> > the sector requested error.  I do Retry a few times, until I get to the
menu
> > where I can choose FAT or HPFS.  I choose FAT for simplicity.  It says
that
>
> Believe me, FAT will not simplify your life.  Once Windows goes anywhere
> near the drive, you'll start loosing EA's,  then your Desktop will be
> screwed up, if it will even boot.  Go HPFS.
>

I tried it both ways.  Basically, I just formatted a primary partition using
MSDOS and made it bootable, then rebooted, and it worked.  Then, I installed
WARP over the top of that DOS FAT partition without reformatting in hopes
that it would still boot to it, but it didn't.  Same thing as before.  It
would just sit with a blinking cursor during bootup before the loading OS/2
message comes up.

> > it formats it, and then continues to copy all the files from the CD.
Since
> > I have updated drivers on my floppies, it also eventually asks me to
insert
> > floppies 1 and 2 so that it can copy those over.  When it finishes
copying
> > the files and scanning my computer, it tells me to remove any floppy
disks
> > so the computer can reboot and continue installation, it fails.  It is
never
> > able to boot off the hard drive.  The computer either reports a 'Missing
> > operating system' or just hangs with a blank screen and a flashing
cursor.
> > I never see the loading OS/2 insignia that occurrs when attempting to
boot
> > from the hard drive.
> >
> > Here are a couple of sites relating to my drive parameters:
> > http://www.westerndigital.com/products/drives/AC313000.htm
> > http://www.westerndigital.com/service/tip0998.html
> > http://www.westerndigital.com/fitness/wdata66.html
> >
> > Any help would be much appreciated.
> > Leo V.
> > leov@primenet dot com


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From: lviolette@syntellect.com                          05-Oct-99 14:34:09
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 19:53:19
Subj: Re: Merlin Installation WOES! Please help if you can.

From: "Leo Violette" <lviolette@syntellect.com>

<hunters@thunder.indstate.edu> wrote in message
news:7tdl1e$f2f$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <7tdbct$n39$1@nnrp03.primenet.com>,
>   "Leo Violette" <lviolette@syntellect.com> wrote:
>
> Was there an OS on the disk previously?? You may not have a MBR on this
> drive. The easiest way to see if this is a problem is to run "fdisk
> /mbr". If the system boots, then that was one of your problems.

Yes, I used to have Win NT4 installed.  It boots fine.  In one of my feeble
attempts, I actually formatted a 800MB primary partition as FAT and
transferred the MS-DOS System files to it just if I could get the computer
to boot to anything.  It was able to boot to that DOS partition.  I then
installed OS/2 over the top of that without reformatting, but it didn't
work.  It will boot into the Boot Manager, but then when I select the Warp
partition, the same flashing cursor happens and the computer just hangs. :(


>
> Come to think of it, I don't know if OS/2's fdisk will do this, but DOS
> 5+ will.
>
> Good luck!
>
> --
> -Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |Warpstock '99 | Oct 16-17|
> hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |       Atlanta GA        |
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.


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From: lviolette@syntellect.com                          05-Oct-99 14:37:03
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 19:53:19
Subj: Re: Merlin Installation WOES!  Please help if you can.

From: "Leo Violette" <lviolette@syntellect.com>

I was not able to find the new installation disks.  I found some for PCMCIA
cdrom drives
(http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/os_2inst/ibmcorpo/index.htm),
but not a generic updated set of install disks as was mentioned in this
response.  Anyone know where they may be located?

pf <pf@hempseed.com> wrote in message news:37FA5FA4.68F6@hempseed.com...
> Leo Violette wrote:
> >
> > I have a Micron Millennia PII-450 with a Western Digital Caviar
AC313000R
> > (13GB) hard disk.  I have updated my OS/2 boot disks with the latest
idedasd
> > drivers.  Here is the installation scenario:
>
> I think you need more than just ibm1s506.add.  There's a whole new set
> of install disks somewhere on IBM's site.
>
> Also, do you have "SET COPYFROMFLOPPY=1" in config.sys on disk 1?  very
> important; else it copies the old *.add from the cdrom.
>
>
> >
> > I go into advanced and setup my hard disk with fdisk and choose a boot
> > partition.  I set it up with the first 855 MB of the drive being my boot
> > partition and I call it Warp4, the rest of the disk is left
unpartitioned.
> > After rebooting, I get to the welcome screen and press <ENTER> and it
often
> > will give me a SYS0045: Drive D: cannot find the sector requested.  I
then
> > hit <retry> and it usually continues to the Installing OS/2 Warp 4 menu
> > where I can select 2. Advanced Installation.  After selecting 2, I
select
> > 'Accept the drive.'  Then, I often get another SYS0045: Drive D: cannot
find
> > the sector requested error.  I do Retry a few times, until I get to the
menu
> > where I can choose FAT or HPFS.  I choose FAT for simplicity.  It says
that
>
> Believe me, FAT will not simplify your life.  Once Windows goes anywhere
> near the drive, you'll start loosing EA's,  then your Desktop will be
> screwed up, if it will even boot.  Go HPFS.
>
> > it formats it, and then continues to copy all the files from the CD.
Since
> > I have updated drivers on my floppies, it also eventually asks me to
insert
> > floppies 1 and 2 so that it can copy those over.  When it finishes
copying
> > the files and scanning my computer, it tells me to remove any floppy
disks
> > so the computer can reboot and continue installation, it fails.  It is
never
> > able to boot off the hard drive.  The computer either reports a 'Missing
> > operating system' or just hangs with a blank screen and a flashing
cursor.
> > I never see the loading OS/2 insignia that occurrs when attempting to
boot
> > from the hard drive.
> >
> > Here are a couple of sites relating to my drive parameters:
> > http://www.westerndigital.com/products/drives/AC313000.htm
> > http://www.westerndigital.com/service/tip0998.html
> > http://www.westerndigital.com/fitness/wdata66.html
> >
> > Any help would be much appreciated.
> > Leo V.
> > leov@primenet dot com


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From: raymond.heath@pss.boeing.com                      05-Oct-99 22:03:16
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 19:53:19
Subj: Re: Long boot-up, no audio

From: Ray <raymond.heath@pss.boeing.com>

Thanks, but for some reason, all the major retailers in the area do not
sell cache seperate from the motherboard, although I see lots of low end
socket seven MB sold without cache, doesn't seem to make much sense.
Sounds like you are right, got to goto a repair shop and see what they
have. Even a 256K stick would be better than nothing. While I am at it,
maybe I can find a $30 P133MMX processor and get rid of this one I have.
I realize that the onboard MMX commands are Windoze oriented, but the
look ahead cache is great to have!

The water is boiling, the frog just doesn't know it yet

Ray

(invalid e-mail addresses are a pain!)

pf wrote:
> 
> > > All,
> > > I am using a Pentium system but it seems excessively long to boot up, 3
> > > 1/2 min, and my audio is missing. Here is my system setup:
> > >
> > > Intel P133 non MMX
> > > 100mhz motherboard
> > > no cache(hard stuff to find if it doesn't come with mb)
> 
> Take the cover off, and take it to a small PC shop. There's really only
> two types of cache for these older MB's,  a knowledgeable PC guy will
> know which -- or try both. The only problem when you put in the wrong
> type is the PC won't boot; nothing gets screwed up.  For $10 in cache,
> you'll be really happy with the result.
> 
> > > 32meg RAM
> > > 4.3G Fuji HD, partioned in forths
> > > SB-16 PCI Vibra
> > > 1.44 floppy
> > > IOMEGA IDE ZIP
> > > Trident SVGA using the standard 8900 driver @ 256 colors
> > >
> 
> Press ALT-F2 during the "boot blob" (that little white block that shows
> in the upper left when os2 first starts to boot), and see which device
> driver it is getting stuck on.  If it is IBM1S506.ADD, try the
> replacment Danis506 (search hobbes).
> 
> I had a SB16 vibra for a while, and it worked.  Try removing all signs
> of \MMOS2, and reinstalling mmos2 after you boot with "full hardware
> detection" (hold down ALT-F1 during the boot-blob and select F5 from the
> menu).
> 
> Here's the part of my config.sys from those days. I can't remember if
> the line that is rem'ed out worked:
> 
> rem DEVICE=D:\MMOS2\SB16D2.SYS /C:1 /D:1 /H:5 /I:5 /A:220 /M:330
> /N:SBAUD1$ /Q /P
> DEVICE=D:\MMOS2\SB16D2.SYS /P /Q
> DEVICE=D:\MMOS2\AUDIOVDD.SYS SBAUD1$
> 
> I believe "/Q" is "quiet" mode, so you might want to take that off while
> you're debugging.

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From: w.d.hines@ns.sympatico.ca                         05-Oct-99 22:55:29
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 21:22:25
Subj: Win-98 help

From: w.d.hines@ns.sympatico.ca (G. Wayne Hines)

Does anyone know if Windows-98 will install on a primary 
partition on a hard drive on the secondary controler...or does 
it have to be on the first HD on the primary controller? We 
disconnected the other drive to install Win-98, then hooked all 
the drives back up. Our partition shows on Boot Manager, but it 
won't boot. 

gwh

# w.d.hines@ns.sympatico.ca                     G. Wayne Hines #
# Team OS/2                              Kentville, NS, Canada #
# I don't wanna work. I just want to ride on the train all day #
#     http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/w.d.hines/express.html       #

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     06-Oct-99 00:01:09
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 21:22:25
Subj: Re: Merlin Installation WOES!  Please help if you can.

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 20:29:25 GMT, pf wrote:

->> I have a Micron Millennia PII-450 with a Western Digital Caviar AC313000R
->> (13GB) hard disk.  I have updated my OS/2 boot disks with the latest
idedasd
->> drivers.  Here is the installation scenario:
->
->I think you need more than just ibm1s506.add.  There's a whole new set
->of install disks somewhere on IBM's site.

The ONLY driver that is required to support large hard IDE disks is
IBM1S506.ADD. Anything else is just padding.


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: ldd23@yahoo.com                                   05-Oct-99 23:44:04
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 21:22:25
Subj: modem when i've already got 2 serial ports?

From: Jack Roberts <ldd23@yahoo.com>

hello,
i've got a PnP ISA modem of some sort (3com i think) and i'd like to be
able to use it, but i already have two serial ports and don't know how
to get OS/2 to recognize the modem.  actually, i don't know if it's
setting itself up correctly; i tried setting injoy to use com3, but it
said it was unable to access the port.
any help is appreciated!


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: djohnson@isomedia.com                             05-Oct-99 16:42:01
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 21:22:25
Subj: Re: GIMP, XFree86, GhostScript HELP PLEASE.

From: "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com>


Ray Appleby wrote:
> 
> I am trying to open a .EPS file in GIMP.  After getting
> XFree86/XWindows/GIMP setup, the first try said that it couldn't find
> gs.exe (ghostscript) so I installed ghostscript for X11 from Hobbes.
> Didn't work.  I have been advised that ghostscript 5.5 for OS/2 will
> work under XWindows but I'm not convinced of that since the
> executables have different names (I need it to work in conjuction
> (seamlessly) with GIMP which wants to call gs.exe to interpret the
> encapsulated postscript file.)
> 
> I can't find any info on how to properly set up ghostscript under
> XFree86/XWindows.

Ghostscript is an interpreter for the PostScript page description
language used by
laser printers.  GSview is a graphical interface for Ghostscript that
runs on Windows, OS/2 and X11.  Info on how to obtain and configure
GSView and Ghostscript under OS/2 (and other platforms) is available at:

http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/gsview/index.html

All of the files and information that you need are available here but
you will have to download and read some READ.ME files to get some of the
info.  

> 
> If anyone has done this could you please post the procedure or
> location and name of a readme file which contains detailed info about
> this specific procedure.
> 
> I don't just want to run ghostscript, I want it to work in conjuction
> with GIMP under XWindows.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Ray Appleby                     rappleby@cadvision.com
> [Team OS/2]                 Multitasking at OS/2 Warp4 Speed.

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From: tkatz@demand-sys.com                              05-Oct-99 23:30:22
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 21:22:26
Subj: Re: enhanced USB driver: looking for testers

From: Tim Katz <tkatz@demand-sys.com>


Robert Lalla wrote:
> All USB drivers for OS/2 support "hot-plugging".
> But "on-demand" loading of device drivers is not supported.

  That sounds Similar to an external Zip drive driver works.  If I have
a USB mouse,  do I have to plug it in before the desktop appears, and if
I don't, will I get an error in the config.sys during bootup?

> So you need to write into config.sys the USB device drivers
> for all devices that might be plugged in later at runtime.

  So the only reason for a "blahblahblah.sys was not loaded, press enter
to continue" error to appear during bootup on a USB device is that the
USB chip on the motherboard isn't supported by the driver?

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     06-Oct-99 00:04:10
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 21:22:26
Subj: Re: New monitor questions

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 17:05:48 -0400, Raphael Tennenbaum wrote:

->>Take a good look at the 107MB monitor (rather good color balance and does
->>1280x1024 at 80Hz with .22 dot pitch) or the cheaper, I think about 2/3 of
the
->>price of all the better 17" monitors from Philips, 107S (not perfect, but
OK
->>value for the money).
->
->107B from Phillips it is -- $148 plus shipping, not dirt-
->cheap, but not bad.  It should get here in week and half or
->so.

The 107B is the predecessor model to the 107MB. Still quite nice but the
MB is newer and better. The 107S is a much cheaper model (and you can tell
why when you see them side by side).

Thanks for helping to keep me in a job ;-)

Working for, but not speaking for, a subsidiary of Philips.

Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: yyyc186.illegaltospam@ibm.net                     04-Oct-99 23:30:18
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Installing Lotus SmartSuite - Problems (continue ...)

From: yyyc186.illegaltospam@ibm.net

In <fIF9M9pMNugl-pn2-UdhHOCQiysT4@camb0679.capecod.net>, on 10/02/99 
   at 12:23 PM, xyxmadxyx@xyxziplinkxyx.xyxnetxyx (mark davidson) said:

Install only FP5.  Then install Lotus.  Then install FP11.

Roland

>On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:35:58, "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com> 
>wrote:

>> >I'm running Warp4 FP11 and can't seem to install Lotus SmartSuite 1.0.
>> >The error message indicates that I'm not at the appropriate FP level
>> >but at FP 11, that shouldn't be a problem, should it?

>> You must run the install from a CMD.EXE session, NOT 4OS2, or some
>> other replacement shell. LSS/2 install depends or the info returned by
>> "ver /r" command. Most replacement shells don't return the proper
>> response. Most shells, all that's required is to type "CMD [Enter]"
>> then run install.

>thanks for the responses.  indeed, i do run 4os2 but having installed 
>smartsuite once before, i had already reverted to a 'cmd.exe' setup  for
>the installation.  ver /r results in The Operating System/2  Version is
>4.00 Revision 9.035.  

>this is a recent reinstallation of warp4 and fp11 was the first  fixpack
>applied to the system.  if i recall, the device drivers were  not part of
>fp11 and i'm wondering if perhaps i need to apply the  first device
>driver fixpack to successfully install smartsuite on my  system?

>again, any thoughts appreciated.  thanks/regards, ..

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From: jdparker@erols.com                                05-Oct-99 20:36:02
  To: stinky@ameritech.net                              06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: TP760 ELD, ES16881$, and Trap 000D

To: stinky@ameritech.net
From: "James D Parker Jr." <jdparker@erols.com>

stinky@ameritech.net wrote:

> Hello Eric,
>
> By any chance, do you recall where you found the fixed driver?  The drivers
from
> www.esstech.com and the ddpack online site are at the same revision (1.0.3),
> though the zipfile sizes differ slightly.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> In <rfxbxnhccvaravozarg.fj31700.pminews@news3.ibm.net>, "Esko Kauppinen"
<esko.kauppinen@ibm.net> writes:
> >On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 00:17:02 GMT, stinky@ameritech.net wrote:
> >
> >>Thanks for the tip.  In fact, that's exactly what I did.  Still, I get the
> >>traps.
> >>
> >>What I'll probably do is re-install OS/2, and install only FP9 (and leave
> >>it there), as FP10 and above seem to break the ES1688 driver.
> >
> >I'm using the ES1688 on my Compaq and also had the Trap while
> >installing Fixpak 10 (or was it 9?).
> >
> >I solved the problem by installing the fixed driver but had a bit
> >difficulties finding it. I first tried one driver from the recommended
> >pages and it trapped too.
> >
> >Now it works well in OS/2 side but for WinOS2 I have to use the
> >Blaster drivers.
> >
> >
>
> jdserra at ameritech dot net

You can find the driver referred to in another post at at
ftp://ftp.quasarbbs.com/os2/drivers/audio/ess/os21688.zip

Jim


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From: markk@NOSPAM.wnycs.com                            06-Oct-99 00:47:24
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: CORELscsi 2.0

From: markk@NOSPAM.wnycs.com

In desperate need of this if any one has it please contact me ASAP

Mark Kopenski
markk@wnycs.com
mkopenski@adelphia.net

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From: luistino@my-deja.com                              06-Oct-99 03:31:12
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Installing FIX-pack_try QF11

From: luistino <luistino@my-deja.com>

Mackan wrote:
> 
> Hello there
> 
> I was trying to install the fixpack (fixpack 11 for os/2 warp 4.) , not
> using diskettes or the web.
> There was a way described in a readme-fil that followed the FIX141-disk.
> And that I instead used a program called SVdisk, that faked a DISK-drive, to
> make it possible
> to unpack the disketts to the local harddrive.
> 
> Then when I'm trying to run SERVICE it will not update the system, I get the
> following error
> "Error opening ir creating logfile" in the "Corrective Service Facility
> Message".
> 
> I have made the SET's that are necessary, but I'll not work anyway.
> The instructions that I've been testing are included in the readme file is
> as follows :
> --------------------------------------
>   First, setup a directory to hold the FixTool code. For example,
>   run the following to place the FixTool into the d:\csf directory.
> 
> |       cs_141.exe d:\csf
> 
>   Next, setup the FixPak directory using the diskette images.
>         loaddskf xr_w035.1dk j: /f/y/q
>         xcopy j: d:\xr_w035\ /h/o/t/s/e/r/v
>         loaddskf xr_w035.2dk j: /f/y/q
>         xcopy j: d:\xr_w035\ /h/o/t/s/e/r/v
>         ...
>         ...
>         ...        <repeat for each disk image in the FixPak>
> 
>   Install the FixPak by running service.exe.
>         set csfutilpath=d:\csf
>         set csfcdromdir=d:\xr_w035
>         d:
>         cd csf
>         service  (or start service)
> ---------------------------------------
> End Readme-file.
> 
> Any suggestions how to succseed in applying a fixpack is very helpful.
> I have applyed the FIXpack 7 on this computer, but that was a year ago, and
> I did use disketts then, but I hade disketts,
> so I wanna figure this out, so I don't have to use the disks.
> Why havn't IBM figured out an easy way to upgrade OS/2.
> 
> any suggestions or tips please mail them to
> arkus.forsblom@nospam.com  ----> Important : Change the "nospam" to "TELIA"
> !!!

Everyone has their own preference, mine is to use QF11. I have found it
simple to use and based on my experience, I cannot recommend it enough.

It checks your downloded *.?dk files, one by one,  for errors and
reports the them if found. It prompts you with easy to follow
instructions on installing a fixpak and then gets on with it. Here is an
exerpt from the read me file

"The critical issue is safety.

The main difference between this utility and most others in the genre is
that
QuickFix uses an image unpacking tool which performs CRC validation of
the
diskette images before applying what could otherwise be junk to your
finely-
tuned and previously functional OS/2 system.  To me that seems a
worthwhile
contribution."

I cannot remember where I downloaded from, probaly hoobes, look for
Qf11.zip

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From: merlins@ibm.net                                   06-Oct-99 06:20:03
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:26
Subj: Re: BootManager vs. LILO

From: Meinolf Sondermann <merlins@ibm.net>


Trevor Hemsley wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 21:27:15 -0400 (EDT), OS/2 Fan wrote:
> 
> -> I followed the previous advice and got the IDE
> ->fix, and now can run fdiskpm.exe without errors on the first drive.
> ->So I partitioned the second drive and rebooted, then formatted the
> ->partitions in OS/2 (fat, I just wanted OS/2 to know they were there
> ->and formatted), then tried reinstalling Linux 5.2 off the RedHat CD.
> ->Same story with LILO, the error was "An error occured while
> ->installing LILO in /dev/hdb1" or something close to those words, so I
> ->had to skip (retry did nothing new).  When I finished the install and
> ->rebooted and picked the / partition off of BootManager's menu, same
> ->story, "Selected partition is unformatted, press any key" and back to
> ->BootManager it goes.
> 
> The last few installs of Linux that I've one have been of SuSe and that
> asks where to install LILO. You get the choice of the MBR of the first
> drive (no useful if you have OS/2's Boot Manager installed), or the boot
> sector of the root partition. Selecting the second of these asks if you
> want to install LILO in the extended partition or in the logical drive.
> It's the second option that you need.
> 
> Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
> (Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)

As "OS/2 Fan" wrote in his very first post that /dev/hdb1 is a primary
partition, to tell between extended partition and logical drive is not
relevant in this case. 

Here just a few more proposals :

1.) On creation leave the Linux partitions unformatted, let the Linux install
do this job and create a EXT2FS filesystem. OS/2 doesn't need any knowledge of
these partition at that stage - BM has already.

2.) I remember that - as one of the first steps in Linux install - I had to
call Linux fdisk and change the partition type of Linux root and other Linux
data partition to read 'Linux native', the swap partition type would read
'Linux swap'.

3.) As the hole disk 2 is dedicated to Linux, leave the disk holly blank with
no partition at all. Do the partition setup from Linux install as well as the
formatting . You may add the Linux root partition to BM menu at a later stage.

Good luck
Meinolf

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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           06-Oct-99 08:03:06
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 14:39:26
Subj: Re: Hard drive wont play games. Help.

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <7tcrvt$vjg$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>, on 10/05/99 at 01:47 PM,
   "Mark" <mark@premark.freeserve.co.uk> said:

> Hi
> I have 3 hard drives I am using on a computer with
> Windows 95. But this computer does not have a
> CD Rom drive and I would like to reconfigure one of
> the drives to make the computer think that the drive
> is a CD Rom drive so that I can play the games I have
> installed on it.

The only advice you will get here is to reformat the entire drive and
install OS/2.

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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 9
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
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From: ednaber@nospam.ibm.net                            06-Oct-99 13:13:10
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 14:39:27
Subj: Re: Help: OS/2 hangs at IBMIDECD.FLT with new cdrom

From: ednaber@nospam.ibm.net (E.D. Naber)

In message <37F9A1DA.7A805A20@hotmail.com> - Robert Dohrenburg
<rdohrenburg@hotmail.com>Tue, 05 Oct 1999 01:59:38 -0500 writes:
:>
:>Doug Bissett wrote:
:>> 
:>> On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 04:07:59, Robert Dohrenburg
:>> <rdohrenburg@hotmail.com> wrote:
:>> 
:>> > I found a/the solution? If I set the dvd-cdrom as a master ( secondary
:>> > controller ) the system hangs, setting the dvd as a slave everything
:>> > works fine. I wonder if this is a bug in the ibm1s506 driver.
:>> >
:>> > BTW the size and date of the file is 24136 1998/09/30 21:14:00
:>> > IBMIDECD.FLT From FixPack12
:>> >
:>> > Thanks again.
:>> >
:>> 
:>> Are you sure you got that right??? It is known that a SLAVE, without a
:>> MASTER, will sometimes work with older OS/2 IDE drivers, and with
:>> windows systems, but it will NOT work (it should NEVER work, under any
:>> circumstances) with the later OS/2 IDE driver.
:>
:>
:>Yes Im sure. I have two Matrox drives ( a master 13.6G 7200RPM and a
:>slave 13.6G 5400RPM ) hooked to the primary controller. The DVD-CDROM is
:>connected to the secondary controller acting as a slave.
:>
:>
snip

Robert,
you're right. It's a known problem - to me, at least - that some
CD-drives, even normal bread and butter 24x-drives, are not recognized
when they are connected to the second IDE channel as master and there is
no slave. It seems to be motherboard/controller-dependend. So either
switch one of your HD's to be master on the second channel and make the
CDROM to be slave or try to attach a third HD as slave behind the CDROM
as master (the latter sometimes works sometimes does not).


E.D. Naber
ednaber@nospam.ibm.net

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From: klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu                          06-Oct-99 13:46:14
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 14:39:27
Subj: Re: modem when i've already got 2 serial ports?

From: klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu (Kevin Croxen)

Com 1 and Com 3 share an IRQ (namely, 4) The peripheral that you wish 
to put on com3 must be set to use some other IRQ (5, or for a PnP modem 
I use on com3, 9) otherwise, the IRQ conflict when you try to access your 
modem will cause the system to hang.

If your hardware is current, it's always best to set up this port first in 
your hardware bios (since Warp 3 doesn't do PnP, and Warp 4 does it 
badly).  Assuming you have your bios set up for com 3 at, say, address 
3e8 and IRQ 9, then in Warp open your config.sys file and at the end of 
the line loading com.sys at the following parenthesis (3,3e8,9)  No spaces.
Save, exit. This will tell Warp 3 where to look for com3. For Warp 4, 
you'll want to take the added step of *disabling* hardware detection 
with the alt-f1 emergency recovery menu at bootup, (only need to do 
once) so that Warp 4 doesn't persist in trying to set up the modem at 
the wrong address and then being unable to detect it.

After this exercise, InJoy or DOIP should be perfectly happy with com3. 
If you use SIO instead of com.sys, it also has to be explicitly set up to use
a non-default IRQ with com3. Consult Ray Gwinn's readme with your copy 
of SIO to set up com 3 and/or 4

--Kevin
 



On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 23:44:09 GMT, Jack Roberts <ldd23@yahoo.com> wrote:
>hello,
>i've got a PnP ISA modem of some sort (3com i think) and i'd like to be
>able to use it, but i already have two serial ports and don't know how
>to get OS/2 to recognize the modem.  actually, i don't know if it's
>setting itself up correctly; i tried setting injoy to use com3, but it
>said it was unable to access the port.
>any help is appreciated!
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     06-Oct-99 16:37:14
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 16:31:22
Subj: Re: Win-98 help

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:55:59, w.d.hines@ns.sympatico.ca (G. Wayne 
Hines) wrote:

> Does anyone know if Windows-98 will install on a primary 
> partition on a hard drive on the secondary controler...or does 
> it have to be on the first HD on the primary controller? We 
> disconnected the other drive to install Win-98, then hooked all 
> the drives back up. Our partition shows on Boot Manager, but it 
> won't boot. 
> 
> gwh
> 
> # w.d.hines@ns.sympatico.ca                     G. Wayne Hines #
> # Team OS/2                              Kentville, NS, Canada #
> # I don't wanna work. I just want to ride on the train all day #
> #     http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/w.d.hines/express.html       #

Win98 MUST be on a PRIMARY partition on the FIRST drive (which means, 
it MUST boot a from a C: drive). The controller posistion shouldn't 
make any difference, as long as the drive is the FIRST hard drive. The
FIRST hard drive will be found in this order Ctl0-Dev0, Ctl0-Dev1, 
Ctl1-Dev0, Ctl1-Dev1. Most of the time, the FIRST hard drive is on 
Ctl0-Dev0, but it doesn't have to be there. (Some machines have a BIOS
setting to change this order, but I think that is very rare).

So: The answer is YES, it will boot from a hard drive, on the 
secondary controller, AS LONG AS, you do NOT have a hard drive on the 
primary controller, AND the drive is the first hard drive on the 
secondary controller (which is what it would have been when you 
disconnected the other drive).

Hope this all makes sense...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: lviolette@syntellect.com                          06-Oct-99 09:25:15
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: Re: Merlin Installation WOES!  Please help if you can.

From: "Leo Violette" <lviolette@syntellect.com>

I figured out the problem.  I changed my BIOS to not see the ZIP drive.
Then, everything installed fine.  Go figure.  Hopefully, I will be able to
reenable my ZIP drive after installing Warp with the latest fixpack.
Thanks for your help!
Leo.

pf <pf@hempseed.com> wrote in message news:37FA5FA4.68F6@hempseed.com...
> Leo Violette wrote:
> >
> > I have a Micron Millennia PII-450 with a Western Digital Caviar
AC313000R
> > (13GB) hard disk.  I have updated my OS/2 boot disks with the latest
idedasd
> > drivers.  Here is the installation scenario:
>
> I think you need more than just ibm1s506.add.  There's a whole new set
> of install disks somewhere on IBM's site.
>
> Also, do you have "SET COPYFROMFLOPPY=1" in config.sys on disk 1?  very
> important; else it copies the old *.add from the cdrom.
>
>
> >
> > I go into advanced and setup my hard disk with fdisk and choose a boot
> > partition.  I set it up with the first 855 MB of the drive being my boot
> > partition and I call it Warp4, the rest of the disk is left
unpartitioned.
> > After rebooting, I get to the welcome screen and press <ENTER> and it
often
> > will give me a SYS0045: Drive D: cannot find the sector requested.  I
then
> > hit <retry> and it usually continues to the Installing OS/2 Warp 4 menu
> > where I can select 2. Advanced Installation.  After selecting 2, I
select
> > 'Accept the drive.'  Then, I often get another SYS0045: Drive D: cannot
find
> > the sector requested error.  I do Retry a few times, until I get to the
menu
> > where I can choose FAT or HPFS.  I choose FAT for simplicity.  It says
that
>
> Believe me, FAT will not simplify your life.  Once Windows goes anywhere
> near the drive, you'll start loosing EA's,  then your Desktop will be
> screwed up, if it will even boot.  Go HPFS.
>
> > it formats it, and then continues to copy all the files from the CD.
Since
> > I have updated drivers on my floppies, it also eventually asks me to
insert
> > floppies 1 and 2 so that it can copy those over.  When it finishes
copying
> > the files and scanning my computer, it tells me to remove any floppy
disks
> > so the computer can reboot and continue installation, it fails.  It is
never
> > able to boot off the hard drive.  The computer either reports a 'Missing
> > operating system' or just hangs with a blank screen and a flashing
cursor.
> > I never see the loading OS/2 insignia that occurrs when attempting to
boot
> > from the hard drive.
> >
> > Here are a couple of sites relating to my drive parameters:
> > http://www.westerndigital.com/products/drives/AC313000.htm
> > http://www.westerndigital.com/service/tip0998.html
> > http://www.westerndigital.com/fitness/wdata66.html
> >
> > Any help would be much appreciated.
> > Leo V.
> > leov@primenet dot com


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From: centaurs@apk.net                                  06-Oct-99 17:03:11
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: Warp 3.0 and fix pak for Y2K

From: "Jerry A. Jelinek" <centaurs@apk.net>

I need some simple assistance in getting the proper files from the IBM
support site. 

I Have Warp 3.00 Connect and I've never applied a Fix Pak to it before. I
recently found out that I need a fix pak to get my OS upto date with Y2K
compatibility. 

I have tried to navigate the IBM web site, but I keep going around in circles.
Could some kind soul please email me the proper ftp or html links for the
files
I need to get my beloved Warp upto date?

Thanks for any help you can provide,

Jerry


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From: rjfreem@ibm.net                                   06-Oct-99 10:11:08
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: Re: Merlin Installation WOES!  Please help if you can.

From: rjfreem@ibm.net

In <7tdbct$n39$1@nnrp03.primenet.com>, on 10/05/99 
   at 09:54 AM, "Leo Violette" <lviolette@syntellect.com> said:

Do you have Boot Manager installed and did you set the partition
Installable from FDISK?
RJF

>I have a Micron Millennia PII-450 with a Western Digital Caviar AC313000R
>(13GB) hard disk.  I have updated my OS/2 boot disks with the latest
>idedasd drivers.  Here is the installation scenario:

>I go into advanced and setup my hard disk with fdisk and choose a boot
>partition.  I set it up with the first 855 MB of the drive being my boot
>partition and I call it Warp4, the rest of the disk is left
>unpartitioned. After rebooting, I get to the welcome screen and press
><ENTER> and it often will give me a SYS0045: Drive D: cannot find the
>sector requested.  I then hit <retry> and it usually continues to the
>Installing OS/2 Warp 4 menu where I can select 2. Advanced Installation. 
>After selecting 2, I select 'Accept the drive.'  Then, I often get
>another SYS0045: Drive D: cannot find the sector requested error.  I do
>Retry a few times, until I get to the menu where I can choose FAT or
>HPFS.  I choose FAT for simplicity.  It says that it formats it, and then
>continues to copy all the files from the CD.  Since I have updated
>drivers on my floppies, it also eventually asks me to insert floppies 1
>and 2 so that it can copy those over.  When it finishes copying the files
>and scanning my computer, it tells me to remove any floppy disks so the
>computer can reboot and continue installation, it fails.  It is never
>able to boot off the hard drive.  The computer either reports a 'Missing
>operating system' or just hangs with a blank screen and a flashing
>cursor. I never see the loading OS/2 insignia that occurrs when
>attempting to boot from the hard drive.

>Here are a couple of sites relating to my drive parameters:
>http://www.westerndigital.com/products/drives/AC313000.htm
>http://www.westerndigital.com/service/tip0998.html
>http://www.westerndigital.com/fitness/wdata66.html

>Any help would be much appreciated.
>Leo V.
>leov@primenet dot com





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From: mchasson@ibm.net                                  06-Oct-99 16:01:17
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: Will this work???

From: mchasson@ibm.net

Before installing a new drive I am planning a partition arrangement.  

I now have BM with DOS/Win3.1 on C: in Fat 16

Warp 4 is on the extended partition as F:  in HPFS.

I was considering putting in a second C: with W95.  Can I install this in
FAT32 or must it be FAT 16.  I have noted some comments about Warp in the
extended partition needing a Fat 16 primary, as it cannot see the Fat 32. 
Of course I will have the Fat 16 that is presently installed.  Will this
answer the problem??

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     06-Oct-99 22:09:01
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: Re: BootManager vs. LILO

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 09:34:18 -0400 (EDT), OS/2 Fan wrote:

->Everyone thanks again *very* much!  After more digging around here is
->the output from PARTINFO.EXE.  I suspect I am looking at a complete
->reinstall, but would love to be wrong about that!  Here goes:
->
->==============================================================
->Disk 0:  784 Cylinders, 255 Heads, 63 Sectors/Track.
->====================== Partition Tables ======================
->Partition      ----Begin----    ------End-----   Start     Num
->Sector  # Boot Cyl Head Sect FS  Cyl Head Sect    Sect   Sects
->------- - ---- --- ---- ---- -- ---- ---- ---- ------- -------
->      0 0 00     1    0    1 17   38  254   63   16065  610470
->      0 1 00   103    0    1 05  783  254   63 165469510940265
->      0 2 80     0    1    1 0A    0  254   63      63   16002
->      0 3 00    39    0    1 07  102  254   63  626535 1028160
->1654695 0 80   103    1    1 07  523  254   63 1654758 6763302
->1654695 1 00   524    0    1 05  784  254   63 8418060  616896

It's this one it objects to. With 784 cylinders on the disk and starting
to count from 0 that means the last partition should end on cyl 783, head
254, sector 63. This one doesn't, it ends on 784/254/63 instead. One
possibility remains: make sure that the version of IBM1S506.ADD that you
are using reports itself as V4.20 or higher as one version added an
"extra" cylinder at the end of the disk that was previously thought to be
unusable. If you partitioned using this driver and have subsequently
backed it out to an earlier version then this might explain what you see.

->Warning #109: Partition ends after end of disk.
->  ucEndCylinder (784) must be less than 784.
->  This problem is created by a known bug in OS/2 FDISK.
->Warning #110: Number of sectors in partition is inconsistent.
->  ucSectors   = 616896
->  end - begin = 4192965
->8418060 0 80   524    1    1 06  783  254   63 8418123 4176837

This one looks OK though, the FAT partition inside the one that reports
itself as being wrong.

> From the manual, the way out of this is most probably deleting
> everything and reinstalling (argh!!).

I *think* you can probably get away with deleting only the things in the
extended partition on the first drive since that is the partition that
extends beyond the end of the disk. If you were willing to take some risks
(and some very good backups (-:) you could try fiddling the partition
table from within Linux using its version of FDISK. It is non-destructive
unlike OS/2 or DOS etc. I suspect that if you deleted the second partition
in the extended and redefined in it the same place then it would be OK
(but youre' responsible for anything that goes wrong, not me...).

>Will NT allow me to use zip -r$, or the
>equivalent, and then restore by unzipping?  Or is there a way to
>avoid full reinstallation (please...).

No. Not if you have to delete its partition.


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: void@nospam.demon.nl                              06-Oct-99 19:02:09
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 21:36:00
Subj: Re: Installing FIX-pack

From: huug <void@nospam.demon.nl>

>>>>> "Mackan" == Mackan  <Mackan@SpamMeNot.se> writes:

 Mackan> Hello there I was trying to install the fixpack (fixpack 11 for
 Mackan> os/2 warp 4.) , not using diskettes or the web.  There was a
 Mackan> way described in a readme-fil that followed the FIX141-disk.
 Mackan> And that I instead used a program called SVdisk, that faked a
 Mackan> DISK-drive, to make it possible to unpack the disketts to the
 Mackan> local harddrive.

Easier would be to get the *.ZIP version then.  I've used SVDisk in the
past when I *didn't* want to unpack it to my harddisk: the whole process
can run from the virtual floppy.

 Mackan> Why havn't IBM figured out an easy way to upgrade OS/2.

But they have: it's called RSU.

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From: malkajef@orthohelp.com                            06-Oct-99 20:24:06
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:16:29
Subj: Warp 3 connecting to a Windows 98 or Unix network?

From: "Jeff Malka" <malkajef@orthohelp.com>

Can Warp 3 PC connect to a Peer to Peer network of Windows 98 PCs?  How?
Same question if the network was a Unix network.  How?

Is it easier if it was Warp 4?

Thanks.

--
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From: LMStone_NoSpamPlease_@ibm.net                     05-Oct-99 22:21:02
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: Word6 requires Share.Exe

From: "L. Mark Stone" <LMStone_NoSpamPlease_@ibm.net>

You can keep C: as NTFS if you add the subst command to your
autoexec.bat file.

Here's mine:

@ECHO OFF
SET ATI_NOEE_M64=D:\MACH_OS2\EEDATA.EE_
ECHO.
PROMPT $i$p$g
REM SET DELDIR=C:\DELETE,512;D:\DELETE,512;E:\DELETE,512;
SET WIN3DIR=D:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2
PATH=D:\OS2;D:\OS2\MDOS;D:\;D:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2;
LOADHIGH APPEND D:\OS2;D:\OS2\SYSTEM
SET TMP=D:\TEMP
REM LOADHIGH DOSKEY FINDFILE=DIR /A /S /B $*
REM DOSKEY EDIT=QBASIC/EDITOR $*
REM SET DIRCMD=/A
SET TEMP=D:\TEMP
SET ETC=d:\tcpip\dos\etc
SUBST C: E:\

Note that E:\ need not be FAT, but OS/2 must be able to read it.



"Eric A. Erickson" wrote:
> 
> On 28 Sep 1999 00:38:37 GMT, Peter Moylan wrote:
> 
> >Eric A. Erickson <drowelf@nospamvnet.net> wrote:
> >>I'm stumped. All of a sudden my Word 6 is using a pop-up about requiring
> >>Share.Exe before it will run. I've been running Word 6 for several years
> >>with no problems. Also I have this problem on a fresh install on a new
> >>notebook.
> >
> >Is drive C: accessible?  Presumably because of brain-dead programming,
> >a lot of M$ stuff won't run unless you let it write to drive C:, even
> >if the software is installed in another drive.  You'll get this problem
> >if, for example, you convert C: to a format (like NTFS) for which you
> >don't have OS/2 drivers.
> >
> Bingo. That it. I had just converted the C: Drive to NT and formatted it as
an NTFS
> partition.  I just wiped and re-formatted as FAT and all work well. Have to
write this one
> down and keep it for posterity.
> 
> Elvish Software Foundry, Inc.                   - Internet: 
drowelf@vnet.net
> IBM Certified OS/2 Warp Engineer        - IBMLink:   HONE81(ESFISA1)
> IBM Certified OS2/ Warp Developer & Associate Visual Age C++ Developer
> 'Already where I want to be Today       - Voice/Fax: (281)-398-2625 <-Newe'

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From: helle05@ibm.net                                   06-Oct-99 18:58:16
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: Installing Lotus SmartSuite - Problems (continue ...)

From: "Thomas A. Heller" <helle05@ibm.net>


Doug Bissett wrote:

> > i'm wondering if perhaps i need to apply the device driver fixpack > >  to 
successfully install smartsuite on my system?
 
> I don't know if that is your problem, or not, BUT, I would suggest
> installing the DD fix pack anyway. If you just installed FP11, over > a new
warp4 install, you will be missing a LOT of driver updates, 
> and I wouldn't even want to guess what might be missing.

I concur with Doug's advice to install the DD
fixpak.   Do that and then reinstall WordPro.  See
my reply (a few lines above this) to Jan Eri re:
"OS/2 hangs when printing from WordPro".  While
you're at it, I'd also go to FP 12 -- 11 was
something of a dud, as I understand.

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From: esitea@inficad.com                                06-Oct-99 22:49:04
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 05:18:12
Subj: Re: Adding NT safely to a Warp 4 machine

From: Ezra Sitea <esitea@inficad.com>


Ezra wrote:

A couple of corrections and clarifications.

1.  Meant to say that Disk Administrator will ask to write signatures when you 
first
run the program, not when you close.

> When you close DA, you will be asked to write a signature to the disks.

2.  The reason I suggest using DA to reset OS/2 Bootmanager to active is
because of
the below possibility.  I have used OS/2 boot disk and FDISK to reset the
Bootmanager back to active only to find that NT will not boot because it
cannot find
NTOSKRNL after the first reboot from Bootmanager selection.  I realize that
some
users have experienced problems using DA, but my experience is the opposite.

> When DA finally closes, you MIGHT get a message that the partition numbers
have
> changed and that your BOOT.INI file needs to updated.

3.   In the below sentences, I may have implied a causal relationship between
having
a second primary partition, formatted as FAT, and NT's reporting that HPFS
partitions are "Damaged."  There is no such cause-effect here.  NT4
installation
will always report HPFS partitions as "Damaged."  I suggested formatting the
partition intended for NT as FAT for a specific reason.  If you format the
partition
FAT before attempting to install NT, then during the NT installation, the
correct
partition will be the only one the NT finds acceptable for installation, hence
eliminating any confusing when selecting the "right" one.

> If you have formatted the second primary FAT and install NT, NT's
installation
> will report the HPFS partitions as "Damaged" and will not allow installation 
to
> those partitions unless you format them.  Just make sure you do not select
one of
> the HPFS partitions for installation and you should be fine.

Hope this helps some more.  Thanks for the response.  Good luck with the
install.

Ezra

--
Of all tyrannies a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the
most
oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent 
moral
busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may
at some
point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us
without
end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C. S. Lewis


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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 07-Oct-99 00:01:20
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 05:18:12
Subj: Re: Warp 3 connecting to a Windows 98 or Unix network?

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.setup.misc, "Jeff Malka" <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
spake unto us, saying:

>Can Warp 3 PC connect to a Peer to Peer network of Windows 98 PCs?
>How? 

The standard Warp 3 (non-Connect) doesn't to peer-to-peer networking at
all without additional software (and it might be hard to find now)
because all it had in the box is dial-up networking (SLIP-only in the
original Warp 3 Red Box release, both SLIP and PPP in all others).

Warp Connect (that is, the Warp 3 peer version) might, I dunno.  It
should certainly connect to a Win95 network w/o problems, but thought
I'd heard that Win98 introduced some sort of encryption into the mix.

>Same question if the network was a Unix network.  How?

I use Samba on my Linux file server.  It works just fine with Warp 4
(using the SMB protocol to share partitions).

I assume one could also use nfs if IBM (or a third party) still makes
an add-on which adds nfs capability to Warp.

>Is it easier if it was Warp 4?

Warp 4 is certainly able to do peer-to-peer networking with Windows 95,
since I do that here, but again I'm unsure about Windows 98 because I've
not used it myself (my Windows box uses Win95B, aka OSR2).

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
          I know it all.  I just can't remember it all at once!

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From: fat_ox@hotmail.com                                07-Oct-99 11:01:29
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 05:18:12
Subj: Re: BootManager vs. LILO

From: "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com>

Hi Trevor,
I have the IDEFIX files from June 04, 1999 now, but did not partition
with these; I partitioned with another set of files some time last
winter and that may be what went wrong.  I might build up courage to
use the Linux fdisk and remake the partition with the bad boundary,
thanks for the suggestion!  Wish me luck... :)


>->Disk 0:  784 Cylinders, 255 Heads, 63 Sectors/Track.
>->====================== Partition Tables ======================
>->Partition      ----Begin----    ------End-----   Start     Num
>->Sector  # Boot Cyl Head Sect FS  Cyl Head Sect    Sect   Sects
>->------- - ---- --- ---- ---- -- ---- ---- ---- ------- -------
>->      0 0 00     1    0    1 17   38  254   63   16065  610470
>->      0 1 00   103    0    1 05  783  254   63 165469510940265
>->      0 2 80     0    1    1 0A    0  254   63      63   16002
>->      0 3 00    39    0    1 07  102  254   63  626535 1028160
>->1654695 0 80   103    1    1 07  523  254   63 1654758 6763302
>->1654695 1 00   524    0    1 05  784  254   63 8418060  616896
>
>It's this one it objects to. With 784 cylinders on the disk and starting
>to count from 0 that means the last partition should end on cyl 783, head
>254, sector 63. This one doesn't, it ends on 784/254/63 instead. One
>possibility remains: make sure that the version of IBM1S506.ADD that you
>are using reports itself as V4.20 or higher as one version added an
>"extra" cylinder at the end of the disk that was previously thought to be
>unusable. If you partitioned using this driver and have subsequently
>backed it out to an earlier version then this might explain what you see.

Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan
	
Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, 
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, 
and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.  


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From: iwaki@gte.net                                     07-Oct-99 07:41:11
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 05:18:12
Subj: Maximum disk drive size for IDEDASDE "large disk" driver.

From: "michael" <iwaki@gte.net>

I downloaded the IDEDASDE  package for accomodating "large disk drives". 
The IBM website states that this disk driver are for disk drives larger
than 8.4Gb.   What's the maximum size IDE disk drive that these drivers can
handle?   The date modified is July 1999.


iwaki@gte.net

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From: meazell@ibm.net                                   07-Oct-99 07:09:27
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 10:30:29
Subj: Re: SMP Motherboards and OS/2

From: "Gerald F. Meazell" <meazell@ibm.net>

Thanks to all that replied.  I have decided to go with the Tyan S1836DLU.
It has the best combination of PCI, ISA, and DIMM slots and also has some
built-ins that are nice as well.


--
__________________________________
Gerald F. Meazell
Dallas, Texas
-----------------------------------------------------------
"The one I kiss will be your man." - Judas Iscariot, 33 A.D.
"I am loyal to the United States." - Benedict Arnold, 1776
"OS/2 will be the platform of the 90's." - Bill Gates, 1989
--
In a world without fences, who needs Gates?


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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 05-Oct-99 19:26:06
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 14:41:20
Subj: Re: New monitor questions

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

"Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 17:05:48 -0400, Raphael Tennenbaum wrote:
>
>->>Take a good look at the 107MB monitor (rather good color balance and does
>->>1280x1024 at 80Hz with .22 dot pitch) or the cheaper, I think about 2/3 of 
the
>->>price of all the better 17" monitors from Philips, 107S (not perfect, but
OK
>->>value for the money).
>->
>->107B from Phillips it is -- $148 plus shipping, not dirt-
>->cheap, but not bad.  It should get here in week and half or
>->so.
>
>The 107B is the predecessor model to the 107MB. Still quite nice but the
>MB is newer and better. The 107S is a much cheaper model (and you can tell
>why when you see them side by side).
>
>Thanks for helping to keep me in a job ;-)

Least I can do!...

>Working for, but not speaking for, a subsidiary of Philips.

...and I promise to spell it right from now on as well.  I
liked the specs on it (as much sense as I could make of
these) but for some reason I have this good "brand
association" (if that's the marketing phrase) w/Philips. 
Partly a trusty old Magnavox CD player that's never failed,
maybe more for dozens of old classical LPs from the 50s and
60s...


-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: horseman@ibm.net                                  07-Oct-99 08:16:04
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 14:41:21
Subj: Re: Toolbar-Palette Position

From: Tony Wright <horseman@ibm.net>

Trevor Hemsley wrote:

> On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 03:17:00 GMT, Will Honea wrote:
>
> ->This reminds me:  I've got one system with one of those blasted
> ->unkillable green question marks on the toolbar - darned thing locks the
> ->system solid if I try to shred, move, or delete it.  I'm ready to delete
> ->the toolbar as that seems to be the only way out (tried about every
> ->other trick in the book) but how do I re-create the toolbar to start
> ->fresh? (Warp 4, btw).
>
> Make sure that TOOLBAR is in the SET AUTOSTART= line when you next boot up
> and then double click the desktop.

Remembering that this now re-registers WPLaunchpad class creating a new
object from PMWP.dll resource and creates a new Nowhere directory (with
incrementally numbered suffix)....    which leaves any previous archived
INI's now having location pointers pointing to previous "awakened"
location for these "abstract" icons?(ie the old corrupt Nowhere
directory). 
Thus it might be prudent to re-archive the INI's again otherwise a
future restore will probably bring back Will's green meanies again?

Also not forgetting that same applies to WarpCenter which will now have
blanks instead of greenies (sniff-cough-spit).....

Alternatively one could try checking what/how many Nowhere dir's are
around and delete the last one "outside" of OS/2, reboot  and then let
re-register recreate the new directory again.
You should be then able to restore from archives and get your Toolbars
with drawers working again. Nice theory - pity I can't seem to get it to
work in practise!  :-(
(there's presumably something missing within EA's in newly recreated
Nowhere that prevents this simplistic solution)

> Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
> (Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



--
Rgds Tony W   Email: horseman@ibm.net

"humanum est errare: To err is human
.... and to fail is to be a Project Manager...
...but to foul things up completely needs a computer!"


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From: quasimodo@notre.dame.paris                        07-Oct-99 14:33:22
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 16:38:27
Subj: Re: Win-98 help

From: "Paul M. Pilon" <quasimodo@notre.dame.paris>

On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 22:55:59 GMT, G. Wayne Hines wrote:

>Does anyone know if Windows-98 will install on a primary 
>partition on a hard drive on the secondary controler...or does 
>it have to be on the first HD on the primary controller? We 
>disconnected the other drive to install Win-98, then hooked all 
>the drives back up. Our partition shows on Boot Manager, but it 
>won't boot. 
>
>gwh
>
># w.d.hines@ns.sympatico.ca                     G. Wayne Hines #
># Team OS/2                              Kentville, NS, Canada #
># I don't wanna work. I just want to ride on the train all day #
>#     http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/w.d.hines/express.html       #

Hey you!

	You forgot to release the handbrake after you coupled up the
airhoses.


	Seriously, Wayne while I can't give you the answer to this, I can
tell you that Nick has been having lots of problems with Win 98.  He only
uses it for his USB scanner at the present time.  He says that you should
stick with '95 if you can.


**************************************************************
"I have the male 'work avoidance chromosome'.
I can detect unnecessary work, thereby avoiding it."
-- Dilbert

Paul M. Pilon
Halifax, NS Canada
redpilon@redfox.rednstn.ca
To reply, get rid of the 3 "red"s .
**************************************************************


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From: fat_ox@hotmail.com                                07-Oct-99 20:50:04
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 16:38:27
Subj: Re: BootManager vs. LILO

From: "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com>

Dear everyone,
	I followed everyone's advice and applied the big
disk IDE fix.  I then followed Trevor's advice and tried to deal
with a logical drive that extended beyond the end of the 
partition that contained it.  I've pasted the new PARTINFO.EXE
output below.  OS/2 FDISK no longer reports any problems.  However,
I am still unable to install LILO into /dev/hdb1.  I get an error 
message whenever I attempt to install either RedHat 5.2 or 5.0 and
put LILO on /dev/hdb1; furthermore, BootManager will not boot 
/dev/hdb1 even though I created the partitions I use for Linux under
OS/2.  BootManager says "partition not formatted, press any key" and
I get bounced back to the BM blue screen.  I can then select either
OS/2 or NT (both on the first HD, the 6.1 GB unit).  I've also posted
the contents of my lilo.conf file below, and appreciate any clues on 
how to proceed.  I am now booting OS/2 and NT off the HD using BM,
and 
Linux off the floppy using a boot disk.  I'd like to learn what's 
going on, if possible, and - secondary at this point - I'd like to 
fix my BootManager so I can boot Linux without a floppy.  Thanks
again!

LILO.CONF
boot=/dev/hdb1
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
linear
timeout=50
images=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.36-0.7
         label=linux
         root=/dev/hdb1
         initrd=/boot/initrd-2.0.36-0.7
         read-only
other=/dev/hda6
         label=dos
         table=/dev/hda


PARTITION INFORMATION
==============================================================
Disk 0:  784 Cylinders, 255 Heads, 63 Sectors/Track.
====================== Partition Tables ======================
Partition      ----Begin----    ------End-----   Start     Num
Sector  # Boot Cyl Head Sect FS  Cyl Head Sect    Sect   Sects
------- - ---- --- ---- ---- -- ---- ---- ---- ------- -------
      0 0 00     1    0    1 17   38  254   63   16065  610470
      0 1 00   103    0    1 05  783  254   63 165469510940265
      0 2 80     0    1    1 0A    0  254   63      63   16002
      0 3 00    39    0    1 07  102  254   63  626535 1028160
1654695 0 80   103    1    1 07  523  254   63 1654758 6763302
1654695 1 00   524    0    1 05  782  254   63 8418060 4160835
8418060 0 80   524    1    1 06  782  254   63 8418123 4160772

==============================================================
Disk 1:  616 Cylinders, 64 Heads, 63 Sectors/Track.
====================== Partition Tables ======================
Partition      ----Begin----    ------End-----   Start     Num
Sector  # Boot Cyl Head Sect FS  Cyl Head Sect    Sect   Sects
------- - ---- --- ---- ---- -- ---- ---- ---- ------- -------
      0 0 00     0    1    1 83   50   63   63      63  205569
      0 1 00    51    0    1 05  615   63   63  205632 2278080
 205632 0 00   407    0    1 05  559   63   63 1641024  616896
 205632 1 00    51    1    1 83  406   63   63  205695 1435329
1641024 0 00   560    0    1 05  615   63   63 2257920  225792
1641024 1 00   407    1    1 83  559   63   63 1641087  616833
2257920 0 00   560    1    1 82  615   63   63 2257983 
225729

======================================================================
==
Disk 0:  6149.9 Megabytes
========================= Partition Information
========================
Volume        Partition                        Partition   Start  
Total
Letter:Label  Type            Status   Size MB Sector  #  Sector
Sectors
------------- --------------- -------- ------- ------- - -------
-------
              Boot Manager    Pri,Boot     7.8       0 2      63  
16002
              Hidden NTFS     Pri        298.1       0 0   16065 
610470
C:OS2WARP4    HPFS            Pri        502.0       0 3  626535
1028160
              Extended        Pri       5341.9       0 1
165469510940265
              EPBR            Log       3302.4    None - 1654695
6763365
D:OS2DATA     HPFS            Log,Boot  3302.4 1654695 0 1654758
6763302
              EPBR            Log       2031.7 1654695 1 8418060
4160835
E:SCRATCH     FAT16B          Log,Boot  2031.6 8418060 0 8418123
4160772
              Free Space      Log          7.8    None -12578895  
16065
Info: MBR Partition Table not in sequential
order.

======================================================================
==
Disk 1:  1212.8 Megabytes
========================= Partition Information
========================
Volume        Partition                        Partition   Start  
Total
Letter:Label  Type            Status   Size MB Sector  #  Sector
Sectors
------------- --------------- -------- ------- ------- - -------
-------
              Linux Ext2      Pri        100.4       0 0      63 
205569
              Extended        Pri       1112.3       0 1  205632
2278080
              EPBR            Log        700.9    None -  205632
1435392
              Linux Ext2      Log        700.8  205632 1  205695
1435329
              EPBR            Log        301.2  205632 0 1641024 
616896
              Linux Ext2      Log        301.2 1641024 1 1641087 
616833
              EPBR            Log        110.3 1641024 0 2257920 
225792
              Linux Swap      Log        110.2 2257920 0 2257983 
225729

Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan
	
Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, 
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, 
and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.  


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From: fat_ox@hotmail.com                                07-Oct-99 22:06:07
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:03
Subj: Re: BootManager vs. LILO

From: "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com>

On Thu, 07 Oct 1999 18:27:51 GMT, Alex Taylor wrote:
{SNIP where Alex kindly goes through my lilo.conf and makes
suggestions}
Thanks very much Alex I will do everything you said.  The "images"
was a type on my part, it's "image," as you suspected.  I'll try it
and post back what happened.  Have a good everning everyone!

Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan
	
Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, 
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, 
and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.  


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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        07-Oct-99 18:13:15
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:04
Subj: Re: BootManager vs. LILO

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 21:27:15 -0400 (EDT), OS/2 Fan <fat_ox@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the tips!  I followed the previous advice and got the IDE
> fix, and now can run fdiskpm.exe without errors on the first drive. 
> So I partitioned the second drive and rebooted, then formatted the
> partitions in OS/2 (fat, I just wanted OS/2 to know they were there
> and formatted), then tried reinstalling Linux 5.2 off the RedHat CD. 
> Same story with LILO, the error was "An error occured while
> installing LILO in /dev/hdb1" or something close to those words, so I
> had to skip (retry did nothing new).  When I finished the install and
> rebooted and picked the / partition off of BootManager's menu, same
> story, "Selected partition is unformatted, press any key" and back to
> BootManager it goes.  I'll try moving the boundaries around again and
> see what happens, then post the LILO conf. file's contents too if I
> get stuck again.  Thanks very much and wish me luck, here I go!... 

Simple.  Boot Manager WILL NOT be able to boot Linux until LILO is
installed.

LILO does two things.  First, optionally, it acts as a boot manager
which allows you to select different partitions to boot from.  You
need not be interested in this functionality, since you are using OS/2
Boot Manager for this purpose.

Second, and most importantly, it creates a boot loader on a
Linux partition, which allows the partition to be booted from.  This
_must_ be done before either LILO or Boot Manager can boot from the
partition.

See, when you select a partition within Boot Manager and tell it to boot,
Boot Manager just goes to the standard "boot block" address and attempts
to execute whatever code it finds there.  This code is what loads the OS
kernel and starts the OS (OS/2, DOS, Linux, whatever) up.

OS/2, DOS, etc. install their own boot loaders at this address.  In Linux,
however, this function is left up to the LILO program.  Which means, if
LILO hasn't been installed, there's no executable code at this address on
the partition!  So when Boot Manager goes to try and boot from it, it just
finds empty space (or possibly meaningless garbage) where it expects to
find a boot loader.

So it assumes the partition is unformatted, and returns with an error.

This is what appears to be happening to you.

(Now, it is possible that there are other, additional errors which are also
affecting Boot Manager.  HOWEVER, the error I just described is occuring
for sure, and you WILL have to fix it before you can boot Linux from Boot
Manager.  That's what I mean when I say we should deal with first things
first.)

You must get LILO working.  Since you posted your lilo.conf file in
another message, I'll follow-up to that one and continue from there...

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 Alex Taylor                  BA - CIS - University of Guelph
 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: hofner@gstis.net                                  07-Oct-99 19:00:02
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:04
Subj: share.exe required by Word 6.0

From: Kurt H. Selvig <hofner@gstis.net>

I just tried to install Word 6 into Windows 98 and I receive a message 
stating that share.exe is required.  It worked great in my 95 version, and 
I can't seem to find anywhere to get the file.  I have not upgraded 
anything - this is a new 233 Pentium, 128mb RAM, 2.4gb hard drive with 8mb 
VGA video.

Any ideas as to what approach I might take?

Thanks, sincerely -

------------------  Posted via CNET Help.com  ------------------
                      http://www.help.com/

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From: alanp@globalnet.co.uk                             07-Oct-99 17:44:23
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:04
Subj: Bad setup floppy

From: alanp@globalnet.co.uk

I got OS/2 Warp with my PC a few years ago and used the disc utility
to make disc images should I ever need to reinstall.  Now that I need
to reinstall it, trying to boot from the setup disc gives an error -
" Non system disk inserted"

Any suggestions gratefully received.

Alan Paterson.

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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        07-Oct-99 18:27:25
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:04
Subj: Re: BootManager vs. LILO

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Thu, 07 Oct 1999 20:50:09 -0400 (EDT), OS/2 Fan <fat_ox@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 	I followed everyone's advice and applied the big
> disk IDE fix.  I then followed Trevor's advice and tried to deal
> with a logical drive that extended beyond the end of the 
> partition that contained it.  I've pasted the new PARTINFO.EXE
> output below.  OS/2 FDISK no longer reports any problems.  However,
> I am still unable to install LILO into /dev/hdb1.  I get an error 
> message whenever I attempt to install either RedHat 5.2 or 5.0 and
> put LILO on /dev/hdb1; furthermore, BootManager will not boot 
> /dev/hdb1 even though I created the partitions I use for Linux under
> OS/2.  BootManager says "partition not formatted, press any key" and
> I get bounced back to the BM blue screen.  I can then select either
> OS/2 or NT (both on the first HD, the 6.1 GB unit).  I've also posted
> the contents of my lilo.conf file below, and appreciate any clues on 
> how to proceed.  I am now booting OS/2 and NT off the HD using BM,
> and 
> Linux off the floppy using a boot disk.  I'd like to learn what's 
> going on, if possible, and - secondary at this point - I'd like to 
> fix my BootManager so I can boot Linux without a floppy.  Thanks
> again!

OK, as I mentioned in my previous post, I don't believe the problem
lies with Boot Manager.  You must get LILO working.  Without it, you
_will_ get problems similar to what you describe.

> boot=/dev/hdb1
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b

Looks good so far.

> prompt

You might want to get rid of this line, and replace it with
something like "delay=50".  That way, you won't be forced to press
<enter> before booting (instead it will pause 5 seconds so you can
press Shift to bring up the boot prompt if you want to).
This is just a preference thing, though.

> linear

This line may not be necessary (or it may be), but could cause
problems if it's not required by your hardware setup.  You might
try removing it.

> timeout=50

Not needed unless you're using LILO to replace Boot Manager.

> images=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.36-0.7

That should be "image=", NOT "images=".  Is this a typo?

>          label=linux
>          root=/dev/hdb1

Looking good.

>          initrd=/boot/initrd-2.0.36-0.7

I don't know what this does, except that I sure don't use it.
Try commenting it out (put a "#" in front).

>          read-only

OK again.

> other=/dev/hda6
>          label=dos
>          table=/dev/hda

Comment these out as well.  Not needed if you're not completely
replacing Boot Manager; in fact, they won't work at all, and may
be confusing it.

<snipped partition information>

Try the changes to /etc/lilo.conf that I suggested.  Install LILO
with the command "lilo -v".  Adding the -v provides verbose output,
which will be helpful if it still doesn't work.  In that case,
post the results and we'll take another look at it...

HTH...
--
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 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: isaacl@bulls.ece.ubc.ca                           07-Oct-99 19:41:13
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:04
Subj: Re: Will this work???

From: isaacl@bulls.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)

mchasson@ibm.net wrote:
: Before installing a new drive I am planning a partition arrangement.  

: I now have BM with DOS/Win3.1 on C: in Fat 16

: Warp 4 is on the extended partition as F:  in HPFS.

: I was considering putting in a second C: with W95.  Can I install this in
: FAT32 or must it be FAT 16.  I have noted some comments about Warp in the
: extended partition needing a Fat 16 primary, as it cannot see the Fat 32. 
: Of course I will have the Fat 16 that is presently installed.  Will this
: answer the problem??

I have Warp4 and Win95 on my system. The Win95 uses FAT32 on C: and I have
no problems with Boot Manager seeing and using it.


Isaac

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     07-Oct-99 19:48:03
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:04
Subj: Re: Warp 3.0 and fix pak for Y2K

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:03:22, "Jerry A. Jelinek" <centaurs@apk.net> 
wrote:

> I need some simple assistance in getting the proper files from the IBM
> support site. 
> 
> I Have Warp 3.00 Connect and I've never applied a Fix Pak to it before. I
> recently found out that I need a fix pak to get my OS upto date with Y2K
> compatibility. 
> 
> I have tried to navigate the IBM web site, but I keep going around in
circles.
> Could some kind soul please email me the proper ftp or html links for the
files
> I need to get my beloved Warp upto date?
> 
> Thanks for any help you can provide,
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 
> -- 
> ----------
> Jerry Jelinek via telnet
> centaurs@apk.net
> http://junior.apk.net/~centaurs    - My Favorite Web Sites

Go to:
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/v3.0warp/english-us/
The README file explains most of what you need to know.

Also go to the OS/2 supersite, and look through the New user links. 
There is some very good stuff in there about installing fix packs. 

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com                             07-Oct-99 21:57:29
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:04
Subj: Re: Word6 requires Share.Exe

From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)

On Wed, 6 Oct 1999 02:21:04, "L. Mark Stone" 
<LMStone_NoSpamPlease_@ibm.net> wrote:

> > >>I'm stumped. All of a sudden my Word 6 is using a pop-up about requiring
> > >>Share.Exe before it will run. I've been running Word 6 for several years
> > >>with no problems. Also I have this problem on a fresh install on a new
> > >>notebook.

See if you can find a copy of vshare.386 and change system.ini like
this- 

[386Enh]

other stuff

device=vshare.386



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From: rlalla@stepnet.REMOVETHIS.de                      07-Oct-99 22:56:29
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:04
Subj: Re: enhanced USB driver: looking for testers

From: "Robert Lalla" <rlalla@stepnet.REMOVETHIS.de>

On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 23:30:45 GMT, Tim Katz wrote:

>If I have
>a USB mouse,  do I have to plug it in before the desktop appears, and if
>I don't, will I get an error in the config.sys during bootup?

No error message.

>  So the only reason for a "blahblahblah.sys was not loaded, press enter
>to continue" error to appear during bootup on a USB device is that the
>USB chip on the motherboard isn't supported by the driver?

Most likely. 
You might check this with rmview.exe or using the wps hardware manager object.

--
RL


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From: rlalla@stepnet.REMOVETHIS.de                      07-Oct-99 22:54:00
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:04
Subj: Re: enhanced USB driver: looking for testers

From: "Robert Lalla" <rlalla@stepnet.REMOVETHIS.de>

On 30 Sep 1999 22:31:55 GMT, Carsten Frank wrote:

>When will be the OHCI part done, or will it never be done

Don't know of anyone working on OHCI drivers.

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RL



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From: fat_ox@hotmail.com                                07-Oct-99 23:18:04
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:04
Subj: Re: BootManager vs. LILO

From: "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com>

Hi again,
	Almost there!!  I followed Alex's advice, edited
/etc/lilo.conf, ran lilo -v, saw the warning that /dev/hdb1 isn't
on the first disk (true), rebooted to OS/2, and ran FDISKPM.  I 
clicked on the second HD and it crashed immediately (I've pasted the 
POPUPLOG.OS2 output below)!  However, I was still running so I 
used Partition Magic to add /dev/hdb1 to the BootManager menu, and 
can now boot NT4, OS/2, and Linux from BootManager (yippee!!).  
Can't help but wonder why FDISKPM is crashing though...  No errors
reported by PARTINFO.EXE; output follows. This situation is much 
more easy to live with than booting Linux by floppy, and I want to 
thank everyone that responded to my long, boring messages!  I learned
a lot and got a system that's booting!  If anyone knows why FDISKPM 
might be crashing on DISK 2, I'd love to hear it...  Thanks again!
:)  


Partition Information
==============================================================
Disk 0:  784 Cylinders, 255 Heads, 63 Sectors/Track.
====================== Partition Tables ======================
Partition      ----Begin----    ------End-----   Start     Num
Sector  # Boot Cyl Head Sect FS  Cyl Head Sect    Sect   Sects
------- - ---- --- ---- ---- -- ---- ---- ---- ------- -------
      0 0 00     1    0    1 17   38  254   63   16065  610470
      0 1 00   103    0    1 05  783  254   63 165469510940265
      0 2 80     0    1    1 0A    0  254   63      63   16002
      0 3 00    39    0    1 07  102  254   63  626535 1028160
1654695 0 80   103    1    1 07  523  254   63 1654758 6763302
1654695 1 00   524    0    1 05  782  254   63 8418060 4160835
8418060 0 80   524    1    1 06  782  254   63 8418123 4160772

==============================================================
Disk 1:  616 Cylinders, 64 Heads, 63 Sectors/Track.
====================== Partition Tables ======================
Partition      ----Begin----    ------End-----   Start     Num
Sector  # Boot Cyl Head Sect FS  Cyl Head Sect    Sect   Sects
------- - ---- --- ---- ---- -- ---- ---- ---- ------- -------
      0 0 00     0    1    1 83   50   63   63      63  205569
      0 1 00    51    0    1 05  615   63   63  205632 2278080
 205632 0 00   407    0    1 05  559   63   63 1641024  616896
 205632 1 00    51    1    1 83  406   63   63  205695 1435329
1641024 0 00   560    0    1 05  615   63   63 2257920  225792
1641024 1 00   407    1    1 83  559   63   63 1641087  616833
2257920 0 00   560    1    1 82  615   63   63 2257983 
225729

======================================================================
==
Disk 0:  6149.9 Megabytes
========================= Partition Information
========================
Volume        Partition                        Partition   Start  
Total
Letter:Label  Type            Status   Size MB Sector  #  Sector
Sectors
------------- --------------- -------- ------- ------- - -------
-------
              Boot Manager    Pri,Boot     7.8       0 2      63  
16002
              Hidden NTFS     Pri        298.1       0 0   16065 
610470
C:OS2WARP4    HPFS            Pri        502.0       0 3  626535
1028160
              Extended        Pri       5341.9       0 1
165469510940265
              EPBR            Log       3302.4    None - 1654695
6763365
D:OS2DATA     HPFS            Log,Boot  3302.4 1654695 0 1654758
6763302
              EPBR            Log       2031.7 1654695 1 8418060
4160835
E:SCRATCH     FAT16B          Log,Boot  2031.6 8418060 0 8418123
4160772
              Free Space      Log          7.8    None -12578895  
16065
Info: MBR Partition Table not in sequential
order.

======================================================================
==
Disk 1:  1212.8 Megabytes
========================= Partition Information
========================
Volume        Partition                        Partition   Start  
Total
Letter:Label  Type            Status   Size MB Sector  #  Sector
Sectors
------------- --------------- -------- ------- ------- - -------
-------
              Linux Ext2      Pri        100.4       0 0      63 
205569
              Extended        Pri       1112.3       0 1  205632
2278080
              EPBR            Log        700.9    None -  205632
1435392
              Linux Ext2      Log        700.8  205632 1  205695
1435329
              EPBR            Log        301.2  205632 0 1641024 
616896
              Linux Ext2      Log        301.2 1641024 1 1641087 
616833
              EPBR            Log        110.3 1641024 0 2257920 
225792
              Linux Swap      Log        110.2 2257920 0 2257983 
225729

Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan
	
Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, 
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, 
and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.  


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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     07-Oct-99 21:43:08
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:04
Subj: Re: Maximum disk drive size for IDEDASDE "large disk" driver.

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Thu, 07 Oct 1999 07:41:22 GMT, michael wrote:

->I downloaded the IDEDASDE  package for accomodating "large disk drives". 
->The IBM website states that this disk driver are for disk drives larger
->than 8.4Gb.   What's the maximum size IDE disk drive that these drivers can
->handle?   The date modified is July 1999.

I've never seen a maximum size quoted. How big do you want to use?


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: rhb@accessv.com                                   07-Oct-99 22:48:13
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 21:23:27
Subj: Word6 CBT trick 

From: "Rob Burton" <rhb@accessv.com>

Anybody know how to get the Word 6 tutorials to install and run in Win-OS2? I
heard there was a trick, but I can't find it, and they won't go now. 

On 7 Oct 1999 21:57:58 GMT, Ron Gibson wrote:

|On Wed, 6 Oct 1999 02:21:04, "L. Mark Stone" 
|<LMStone_NoSpamPlease_@ibm.net> wrote:
|
|> > >>I'm stumped. All of a sudden my Word 6 is using a pop-up about
requiring
|> > >>Share.Exe before it will run. I've been running Word 6 for several
years
|> > >>with no problems. Also I have this problem on a fresh install on a new
|> > >>notebook.
|
|See if you can find a copy of vshare.386 and change system.ini like
|this- 
|
|[386Enh]
|
|other stuff
|
|device=vshare.386
|
|
|
|                      email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com
|



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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        07-Oct-99 22:12:26
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 21:23:28
Subj: Re: BootManager vs. LILO

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Fri, 8 Oct 1999 03:18:09, "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi again,
> 	Almost there!!  I followed Alex's advice, edited
> /etc/lilo.conf, ran lilo -v, saw the warning that /dev/hdb1 isn't
> on the first disk (true), rebooted to OS/2, and ran FDISKPM.  I 
> clicked on the second HD and it crashed immediately (I've pasted the 
> POPUPLOG.OS2 output below)!  However, I was still running so I 
> used Partition Magic to add /dev/hdb1 to the BootManager menu, and 
> can now boot NT4, OS/2, and Linux from BootManager (yippee!!).  
> Can't help but wonder why FDISKPM is crashing though...  No errors
> reported by PARTINFO.EXE; output follows. This situation is much 
> more easy to live with than booting Linux by floppy, and I want to 
> thank everyone that responded to my long, boring messages!  I learned
> a lot and got a system that's booting!  If anyone knows why FDISKPM 
> might be crashing on DISK 2, I'd love to hear it...  Thanks again!

Afraid I can't say much about FDISKPM... I always use the text-mode
FDISK.COM myself.  Fortunately it sounds like a non-fatal error, so
if all else fails I guess you could just avoid using FDISKPM...?

Anyway, glad to hear you've got a workable system up and running.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
 Alex Taylor                  BA - CIS - University of Guelph
 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: mckinnis@ibm.net                                  07-Oct-99 22:12:05
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: Word6 requires Share.Exe

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@ibm.net>

It's been a long time, but I recall having this problem.  I don't run it
any more, but I think all I did was edit a file, type one character in
it, and save it as c:\os2\share.exe.

"Eric A. Erickson" wrote:
> 
> I'm stumped. All of a sudden my Word 6 is using a pop-up about requiring
> Share.Exe before it will run. I've been running Word 6 for several years
> with no problems. Also I have this problem on a fresh install on a new
> notebook.
> 
> Help!
> 
> Elvish Software Foundry, Inc.                   - Internet: 
drowelf@vnet.net
> IBM Certified OS/2 Warp Engineer        - IBMLink:   HONE81(ESFISA1)
> IBM Certified OS2/ Warp Developer & Associate Visual Age C++ Developer
> 'Already where I want to be Today       - Voice/Fax: (281)-398-2625 <-Newe'

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: Vishanti_i@hotmail.com                            08-Oct-99 05:17:26
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: OS2 & Win 3.1 Setup.exe

From: Vishanti_i@hotmail.com

Hello..

I am having trouble installing thru Windows 3.1
Full Screen Program Manager.

When I 'run A:\install.exe' thru Program manager
or Dos even the Windows Install loader crashes at
the very end(leaves the Blue Screen Blank).
OK..It installs everything except the Icons for
the program manager.
I have to use setup applications for windows for
the icons. Its a hard freeze and have to reboot.

I know this sometimes happens in reg. windows
fore some bad installers, but anything I try to
Install does it.. I want my games to install right.
Though I have not installed any yet.

Thats OS2 Warp version 3 XR30002..

Maure Vaughn


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From: gdfitzpat@smartt.com                              08-Oct-99 05:30:05
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: startup.cmd

From: gdfitzpat@smartt.com (Doug Fitzpatrick)

My working Warp4 setup is now displaying a startup.cmd window when it
starts up. The window sits in the middle of the desktop. I think I
used to see it flash by, when the desktop was being built, but it
would close itself. Now it doesn't close automatically. Is there any
way to make the window close automatically?

TIA

Regards,
Doug

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From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu                      08-Oct-99 05:40:26
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: OS2 & Win 3.1 Setup.exe

From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu

In article <7tjupr$ujg$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  Vishanti_i@hotmail.com wrote:

<snip>

Sounds like the floppy disks have gone bad, or just shoddy programing
in the installer. Try to get new(er) disks and try again.

Also check the Win-OS/2 properties for the right Win3.x mode (ie:
Standard or Enhanced)

--
-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |Warpstock '99 | Oct 16-17|
hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |       Atlanta GA        |


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From: gbritton@!britton.dhs.org                         08-Oct-99 06:16:18
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 05:11:22
Subj: Re: startup.cmd

From: "Gerry Britton" <gbritton@!britton.dhs.org>

On 8 Oct 1999 05:30:10 GMT, Doug Fitzpatrick wrote:

>My working Warp4 setup is now displaying a startup.cmd window when it
>starts up. The window sits in the middle of the desktop. I think I
>used to see it flash by, when the desktop was being built, but it
>would close itself. Now it doesn't close automatically. Is there any
>way to make the window close automatically?

Edit the startup.cmd, and add "exit" (without the quotes) as the last line of
the file.




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From: rsstan@ibm.net                                    08-Oct-99 06:52:09
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 11:55:24
Subj: Re: Word6 requires Share.Exe

From: "Bob Stan" <rsstan@ibm.net>

On Thu, 07 Oct 1999 22:12:11 -0600, Chuck McKinnis wrote:

>It's been a long time, but I recall having this problem.  I don't run it
>any more, but I think all I did was edit a file, type one character in
>it, and save it as c:\os2\share.exe.
That's what I did too - apparently Word only needs to find a file with the
name share.exe


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From: xyxmadxyx@xyxziplinkxyx.xyxnetxyx                 08-Oct-99 07:34:05
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 11:55:24
Subj: warp4 installation advice

From: mark davidson <xyxmadxyx@xyxziplinkxyx.xyxnetxyx>

i'm trying to install warp4 but am getting an 'os/2 can't operate your
hard drive' message.  i've tried both a known good ibm1s506.add
(currently controls my maintenance partition) and the latest
danis506.add but without luck.  that leads me to believe that there
are other files on the install disk that need to be updated as well. 

i have 3 hard drives;

#1 - 18 gb ibm
#2 - 3.2 gb wd  <- target drive (logical partition)
#3 - 3.2 gb wd

as i'm not trying to install on a 'large' hdd, i presume that the
install process is having difficulty with hdd #1 which is sliced into
4 partitions (~6/2/2/8).

any advice appreciated.  thanks/regards, .. mark davidson

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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           08-Oct-99 16:12:02
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 11:55:24
Subj: FP12 makes my HDD roar on boot

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>

Anyone else noticed this? After applying FP12 to my Warp 4 machine I am
getting very strange sounds from my HDD. At the very end of boot
sequence, just after the screen is cleared from drivers' boot messages
and before the blue PM color appears - my hard disk now makes a long
harsh ar-r-r-r sound like its heads are trying to go past the disk
surface :-). The sound lasts for 5-6 sec, boot then proceeds normally
and everything works fine, but I'm really scared to reboot my machine
now, I am not sure how long my HDD will survive this kind of "surface
testing". Needless to say, I've run checkdisk and GTU disk checker
several times with no errors of any kind reported.

The system is AMD K6-266, ASUS P55T2P4 mobo with 128M RAM, Tekram
DC-390F UW SCSI adapter and WD 3.4G UW SCSI attached (it also has second
EIDE WD 3.6G disk, used for storage only). Device drivers are left at
FP10 level, e.g. I did not apply DD Fixpack. Other hardware includes
ESS1868 sound card, two NICs (Realtek 8029 and DEC 41021 chipsets) and
Matrox Millenium I PCI video. The only device driver that was upgraded
simultaneously with applying FP12 is Matrox one, now at v.2.31.100.

Cheers,
Ivan

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>
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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net                          08-Oct-99 15:18:00
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: Re: startup.cmd

From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)

On Fri, 8 Oct 1999 05:30:10, gdfitzpat@smartt.com (Doug Fitzpatrick) 
wrote:

:My working Warp4 setup is now displaying a startup.cmd window when it
:starts up. The window sits in the middle of the desktop. I think I
:used to see it flash by, when the desktop was being built, but it
:would close itself. Now it doesn't close automatically. Is there any
:way to make the window close automatically?

 Type EXIT at the end of the file.

-- 
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: fat_ox@hotmail.com                                08-Oct-99 18:26:25
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: Utility Disks and IDEFIX

From: "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com>

Hello,
	I'm attempting to make updated utility disks that include the
IDE fixes and the SYM8xx.ADD driver necessary for my SCSI PCI
adapter, that controls my CDR and CDROM.  Both my HDs are IDE, one
UDMA/33 capable, the second not.  I launch the "Make Utility Disks"
app in System Setup, use the OS/2 Warp CD's disk images, and modify
Disk 1 as follows:

1.	Copy the new versions of IBM1S506.ADD, IBMIDECD.FLT and
OS2DASD.DMD device driver files onto Disk 1.
2.	Edit config.sys on Disk 1, to include the line:
BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD /A:0 /!BM /A:0 /!BM
	My chipset is the SiS 5582, and IBM1S506.ADD only supports BM
on Intel chipsets so I've added the /!BM for both my drives.  Drive 0
has NT and OS/2 on it, Drive 1 is entirely Linux, incidentally. 
3.	Add the statement 
BASEDEV=SYM8XX.ADD
for SCSI support, and copy SYM8XX.ADD onto the diskette.  
4.	Add the statement SET COPYFROMFLOPPY=1.

	I've checked the README and "OS/2 Warp Unleashed" and can't
figure out what I've done to create the following problem:  When I am
told to insert Disk 1, all goes OK (apparently) until the end.  When
the screen to insert Disk 2 appears, the floppy light flashes, and
the floppy drive makes a periodic click/grind noise.  Waiting doesn't
help, and putting in Disk 2 results in a beep and the message "OS/2
cannot operate your hard drive."  So I'm stuck.  How do I create
useable utility diskettes?  The IDEFIX is the latest one, by the way,
and my drives are 6.1 and 1.2 GB.  TIA!


Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan
	
Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, 
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, 
and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.  


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From: valkyry@attglobal.net                             08-Oct-99 10:52:19
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: SOM.DLL

From: "valalphy@ibm.net" <valkyry@attglobal.net>

Hello all,

Desktop crashes/fails to complete rebuild of desktop in endless loop
with sys3171 message identifier 17 or 18. Message text reads something
with 'stack failure' and "som.dll" . Sorry about lack of details, but I
am in Win98 at the moment. Have already tried all manual remedies
(recover user.ini files, etc.). What would be best solution to replace
som.dll ?
 
fixpak lvl 12.

If this is not enough info will supply more later.

thank you,

Jay

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From: pm@nospam.mclink.it                               08-Oct-99 19:15:22
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: Re: FP12 makes my HDD roar on boot

From: "PM" <pm@nospam.mclink.it>

On Fri, 08 Oct 1999 16:12:04 +0400, Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

:>Matrox Millenium I PCI video. The only device driver that was upgraded
:>simultaneously with applying FP12 is Matrox one, now at v.2.31.100.

The problem is the new matrox drivers: on my PC, I have upgrade only the
matrox drivers and now the hard disk make the sound...

      Paolo
 p.micca@mclink.it


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From: esitea@inficad.com                                08-Oct-99 11:07:20
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: Re: Bad setup floppy

From: Ezra Sitea <esitea@inficad.com>

Do you have OS/2 Warp on CD?  If so, in the root directory of the CDROM,
there is a DOS .BAT file called MAKEDISK.BAT that will make all the
floppies.  There is also a .BAT file called CDINST.BAT fot creating just
the two or three boot disks so you can install from CD.  There are also
.CMD files for both of these to run under OS/2.

Ezra

alanp@globalnet.co.uk wrote:

> I got OS/2 Warp with my PC a few years ago and used the disc utility
> to make disc images should I ever need to reinstall.  Now that I need
> to reinstall it, trying to boot from the setup disc gives an error -
> " Non system disk inserted"
>
> Any suggestions gratefully received.
>
> Alan Paterson.



--
Of all tyrannies a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be
the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than
under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may
sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those
who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do
so with the approval of their own conscience.

C. S. Lewis


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From: ninja@xmission.com                                08-Oct-99 12:18:28
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:07
Subj: Re: **Attention, Motherboard & OS/2

From: "Dan Egli" <ninja@xmission.com>

I have to disagree on Shuttle. At least some of shuttle's older boards are
HORRID. Especially the 591p! It REALLY SUCKED!
Paul Fedorenko <psf@idirect.com> wrote in message
news:IsxG3.308$D%.6380@quark.idirect.com...
> : Which Chipset?
> : Which brand?
> : Is their a url to purchase?
>
> I'd basically recommend any motherboard made by Asus, Shuttle or Tyan.
> They all use an Intel 440BX chipset, and are probably the three best
> manufacturers to go with for any operating system these days.
>
> Paul
>
>
> --
>
> Paul Fedorenko     psf@idirect.com
> Internet Direct Tech Support
>
> "ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp or what is a heaven for"
>
>                              -- Robert Browning,
>                                                         "Andrea Del Sarto"
>                                                         1895
> xceed his grasp or what is a heaven for"
>
>                              -- Robert Browning,
>                                                         "Andrea Del Sarto"
>                                                         1895
>  ----------------------------------------------------------------
>  : Stop on by the Internet TeleCafe! telnet://telecafe.com:9000 :
>  ----------------------------------------------------------------


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From: ninja@xmission.com                                08-Oct-99 12:21:05
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:07
Subj: Re: Help with installing OS/2 over Linux

From: "Dan Egli" <ninja@xmission.com>

If you have linux, the first order of business is to kill the linux
partitions. Easiest way to do that is use OS/2s fdisk on disk2. It's a 2
step process.
Step 1) Kill partitions. Create new OS/2 parttions, exit
Step 2) FDISK /NEWMBR to kill LILO.
Now install OS/2.
<zymite@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:7sj9g3$bsr$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Help -- I installed Red Hat on this Dell months ago when I was taking a
> Unix class and now I need to put OS/2 on this machine. I go through the
> install fine up until the Graphical Interface reboot, and then it comes
> up as Linux -- a very *angry* Linux.
>
> I guess I need to reformat the whole hard drive before trying install
> again, but how? With a DOS boot disk? I don't have easy access to a DOS
> or Windoze machine, hard to believe, innit?
>
> Any help appreciated. (Don't worry, I'm putting Linux back on as soon as
> I get OS/2 set up as primary.)
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.


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From: esitea@inficad.com                                08-Oct-99 11:43:26
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:07
Subj: Re: BootManager vs. LILO

From: Ezra Sitea <esitea@inficad.com>

See notes bleow,

OS/2 Fan wrote:

> Everyone thanks again *very* much!  After more digging around here is
> the output from PARTINFO.EXE.  I suspect I am looking at a complete
> reinstall, but would love to be wrong about that!  Here goes:
>
> Disk 0:  6149.9 Megabytes
> ========================= Partition Information
> Volume        Partition                            Partition
> Start           Total
> Letter:Label  Type            Status     Size MB Sector  #  Sector
> Sectors
>
> Boot Manager    Pri,Boot                    7.8          0 2
> 63              16002
> Hidden NTFS     Pri                             298.1      0 0
> 16065         610470
> C:OS2WARP4    HPFS Pri                 502.0      0 3      626535
> 1028160
> Extended        Pri                                  5341.9    0 1
> 1654695    10940265
> EPBR            Log                                  3302.4    None
> 1654695     6763365
> D:OS2DATA     HPFS Log,Boot       3302.4               1654695 0
> 1654758    6763302
> EPBR            Log
> 301.2                 1654695 1   8418060    616896
> E:SCRATCH     FAT16B Log,Boot  2039.5               8418060 0
> 8418123    4176837
> Warning #113: Logical starting at 8418123 overlaps enclosing extended
> volume. This problem is created by a known bug in OS/2 FDISK.
> Info: MBR Partition Table not in sequential order.
>
>
> From the manual, the way out of this is most probably deleting
> everything and reinstalling (argh!!).  If so, I can zip my OS/2
> partitions and restore easily; but what about the NTFS partition in the
> beginning of Disk 0?  Will NT allow me to use zip -r$, or the
> equivalent, and then restore by unzipping?  Or is there a way to avoid
> full reinstallation (please...).  Thanks again!!

Since you can easily backup your OS/2 stuff, try deleting the extended
partition and recreate it using OS/2 FDISK.  Also use FDISK to write a new
MBR after you have recreated everything.  This, however, might disrupt NT
boot process, so do at your own fisk.  However, writing a new MBR with
OS/2 FDISK should set the partition tables right again.

As for not being able to install LILO into the boot sector of the
partition that holds / is strange.  Maybe its something about RH5.2
installation routine.  I have used SuSE 5.3 through 6.1 and have always
been able to install LILO into the boot sector of the partition
containing  /.  SuSE asks where LILO should go, either the MBR, the boot
sector of the partition, and if / resides on a logical volume, I also get
the choice of installing into either the boot sector of the extended
partition or the boot sector of the logical volume.  Since I have always
used OS/2 Bootmanager, I never install LILO to the MBR.  I always put
Linux into logical volumes, so LILO goes into the logical partition that
contains  /.

Maybe using Partition magic first, then using OS/2 FDISK caused the
problem with your partition mapping.  I always rely on OS/2 FDISK and
never have received any message that there are partition related
problems.  I use OS/2 FDISK to create all the partitions for linux, then
let SuSE install change the partition types to linux native and linux
swap.  I would suggest getting another Linux distribution.

Hope this helps,

Ezra
--
Of all tyrannies a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be
the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than
under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may
sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who
torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so
with the approval of their own conscience.

C. S. Lewis


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From: thotti@muenster.de                                08-Oct-99 20:53:01
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:07
Subj: startdisk

From: thotti@muenster.de

i,

I am looking for informations how to create a single bootdisk for
network access. my problem is not to implement the network environment,
but to create a single boot-disk.
I need a disk supporting the following:

- harddisk-access (no hpfs needed, but new ibm1s506)
- format.com
- utility to erase partitions (delpart for OS/2 ?)
- space for at least 200 kb for networking files

I know how to make a disk bootable as well as I
I know that i can compress system files with lxlite and i know bootos2,
but that doesnt work for me because i have only a running OS/2 V4.5
(WSeB), which doesnt work correctly with bootos2, because of LVM.
so, which files do i need at least to start a mini-os/2 uncompressing
from eg 2.11 or Warp3 ?

Thanks in advance !

Ps: maybe you can send answers via email as well, i dont know if i am
able to check news next week.

Thorsten H. Niebuhr

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From: asuri@vpub.powernet.co.uk                         08-Oct-99 08:04:20
  To: valkyry@attglobal.net                             08-Oct-99 19:57:07
Subj: Re: SOM.DLL

To: valkyry@attglobal.net
From: Adrian Suri <asuri@vpub.powernet.co.uk>

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Have you got Visual Age version 3 installed if so, that might be
the problem, I had this as well.  The Solution is to edit your config.sys
and remove the som.dll
entry for VAcpp.  Then get the IBM toolkit for Warp 4

If that not the problems sorry... The only other thing I can think of is a
total reinstall


Adrian

"valalphy@ibm.net" wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Desktop crashes/fails to complete rebuild of desktop in endless loop
> with sys3171 message identifier 17 or 18. Message text reads something
> with 'stack failure' and "som.dll" . Sorry about lack of details, but I
> am in Win98 at the moment. Have already tried all manual remedies
> (recover user.ini files, etc.). What would be best solution to replace
> som.dll ?
>
> fixpak lvl 12.
>
> If this is not enough info will supply more later.
>
> thank you,
>
> Jay

--
asuri@vpub.powernet.co.uk

http://users.powernet.co.uk/vpub

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From: osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi                             08-Oct-99 19:02:12
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:07
Subj: Re: warp4 installation advice

From: osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi (osmo vuorio)

In article <eNT9N1wNlCbnFLV3zzrw+JJlvMlU@4ax.com>, mark davidson
<xyxmadxyx@xyxziplinkxyx.xyxnetxyx> says:
>
>i'm trying to install warp4 but am getting an 'os/2 can't operate your
>hard drive' message.  i've tried both a known good ibm1s506.add

This might be due the extended partition type byte 0Fh instead of 05h.

>i have 3 hard drives;
>
>#1 - 18 gb ibm
>#2 - 3.2 gb wd  <- target drive (logical partition)
>#3 - 3.2 gb wd

Anyhow, the os/2 bootmanager has to be installed within
the first 1024 logical cylinders in the first drive.
So, there must free, unallocated space for it.

Osmo

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From: osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi                             08-Oct-99 19:05:14
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:07
Subj: Re: warp4 installation advice

From: osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi (osmo vuorio)

In article <eNT9N1wNlCbnFLV3zzrw+JJlvMlU@4ax.com>, mark davidson
<xyxmadxyx@xyxziplinkxyx.xyxnetxyx> says:

>install process is having difficulty with hdd #1 which is sliced into
>4 partitions (~6/2/2/8).

Hmm..

which kind of partitions..? The classic pc bios boot
limit is 4 primary partitions or 3 primaries and one
extended. The os/2 bootmanager is a primary partition.

Osmo

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From: williamd1@ibm.net                                 08-Oct-99 19:09:00
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:07
Subj: Re: Warp 3.0 and fix pak for Y2K

From: williamd1@ibm.net (williamd)

Is it *only* the fixpacks that are needed to make 3.0 compliant? I've
read things that seem to suggest this is all that's needed, but I've
also been advised to upgrade TCP/IP as well. I'm not sure whether the
latter is required for y2k, or just desirable an a general upgrade? I
am at fp 40 applied from the BMT Micro cd. It does also contain an
upgrade for TCP/IP, but seems to indicate this is only for Warp 4?

Bill

__
williamd1@ibm.net

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From: w.d.hines@ns.sympatico.ca                         08-Oct-99 20:00:24
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:07
Subj: Re: Win-98 help

From: w.d.hines@ns.sympatico.ca (G. Wayne Hines)

On Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:37:29, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug
Bissett) wrote:

> On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:55:59, w.d.hines@ns.sympatico.ca (G. Wayne 
> Hines) wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know if Windows-98 will install on a primary 
> > partition on a hard drive on the secondary controler...or does 
> > it have to be on the first HD on the primary controller? We 
> > disconnected the other drive to install Win-98, then hooked all 
> > the drives back up. Our partition shows on Boot Manager, but it 
> > won't boot. 
> 
> Win98 MUST be on a PRIMARY partition on the FIRST drive (which means, 
> it MUST boot a from a C: drive). The controller posistion shouldn't 
> make any difference, as long as the drive is the FIRST hard drive. The

Thanks, Doug. I knew it had to be on a primary petition, but 
couldn't remember if it would install on 2 drives or just one 
drive. This is for a friend who wants a Win-98 installation that
his kids can't get to. :-) 

I've tried to get him to use OS/2, but...

gwh

# w.d.hines@ns.sympatico.ca                     G. Wayne Hines #
# Team OS/2                              Kentville, NS, Canada #
# I don't wanna work. I just want to ride on the train all day #
#     http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/w.d.hines/express.html       #

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From: w.d.hines@ns.sympatico.ca                         08-Oct-99 20:03:11
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:07
Subj: Re: Win-98 help

From: w.d.hines@ns.sympatico.ca (G. Wayne Hines)

On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 18:33:45, "Paul M. Pilon" 
<quasimodo@notre.dame.paris> wrote:

> 
> 	Seriously, Wayne while I can't give you the answer to this, I can
> tell you that Nick has been having lots of problems with Win 98.  He only
> uses it for his USB scanner at the present time.  He says that you should
> stick with '95 if you can.

You probably installed it wrong. :-)

Chaulkie wanted to keep Lee out of his partition, so we were 
looking to put 2 separate installations on different drives or 
partitions. 

The only reason I've got '95 is to run Simply Accounting. 
Everything else is OS/2.

gwh 

# w.d.hines@ns.sympatico.ca                     G. Wayne Hines #
# Team OS/2                              Kentville, NS, Canada #
# I don't wanna work. I just want to ride on the train all day #
#     http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/w.d.hines/express.html       #

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From: upatoyou@ibmmail.com                              09-Oct-99 06:52:20
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:07
Subj: Re: FP12 makes my HDD roar on boot

From: "DeutschMick" <upatoyou@ibmmail.com>

So THAT'S it! - I only u/g'd Matrox support too!
>:>Matrox Millenium I PCI video. The only device driver that was upgraded
>:>simultaneously with applying FP12 is Matrox one, now at v.2.31.100.
>
>The problem is the new matrox drivers: on my PC, I have upgrade only the
>matrox drivers and now the hard disk make the sound...
>
>      Paolo
> p.micca@mclink.it
>
>

      /                                       R  e  g  a  r  d  s  :
    /    -  __0      Mick Deutsch, Project Audio, Canberra, AUSTRALIA.
[@\      _  \<,_       m$tsch@pcug.org.zzz, zzzhic$@ibmmail.com 
[@/     (_) / (_)   searching for great sound!    NO DAVE!    I am not
    \                      Wind95/NT compatible, this is the 21st century!
     \

humans:  to reply, please replace the z's with au, and the currency symbol
with deu - thanks.
          
  W A R N I N G !
Created and sent using OS/2, the most advanced

  S H O R T   T E R M   S I D E - E F F E C T S  OF USING OS/2:
You may get extra work done because of OS/2s reliability.

You may derive extra pleasure you may from owning a PC
that crashes less than 3 times per week.

  L O N G E R - L A S T I N G   S I D E - E F F E C T S :
"Power User Syndrome"  YOU may decide how you use
your PC, which may annoy the BOSS, who wants you to
use Neanderthal Technology (tm) Operating System.

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to see for yourself.



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From: News@The-Net-4U.com                               08-Oct-99 20:15:03
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:08
Subj: FP12 / GRADD080 plus MMOS2 re-install problem?

From: News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)


I had de-installed MMOS2 (through the selective 
uninstall I would presume, but its a long time) and
tried to re-install it after FP12 and GRADD 0.80 had
been installed and working. Of course I did a FP12 a-
gain after that and sure there was something to update.

However, after all that had been done my IDE (both on
the IBM and the DANI driver) hard drive started acting up.
Meaning that the performance (as well as from the video, but
that might be just another symptom of the machine being drawn
to a virtual standstill by the drive) of the drive was gone. It almost
sounded if the drive was taking breaks between writing the indivi-
dual bytes one-by-one. Sure enough vanished after that MMOS/2 
had been de-installed (and the SB original 16 soundcard removed.)

Anybody an idea if this is to be expected and how to solve it?

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: fat_ox@hotmail.com                                09-Oct-99 00:57:28
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:08
Subj: Re: BootManager vs. LILO

From: "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com>

Thanks Ezra!  I'm planning on backing stuff up, then taking the
plunge and sorting the MBR out.  
Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan
	
Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, 
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, 
and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.  


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From: aballard@ix.netcom.com                            08-Oct-99 22:08:02
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:08
Subj: test

From: aballard@ix.netcom.com (Allan B.)

test. please delete.

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From: dink@dont.spam.me                                 08-Oct-99 18:39:15
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 21:25:14
Subj: Re: FP12 makes my HDD roar on boot

From: "dinkmeister" <dink@dont.spam.me>

Yep! I notice that too, but I don't know if its because the
new matrox drivers or the fixpak, because I applied them
both at the same time.  

- dink ( http://dink.org )



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From: aballard@ix.netcom.com                            08-Oct-99 22:14:15
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 21:25:14
Subj: test

From: aballard@ix.netcom.com (Allan B.)

test. please delete.

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From: gdfitzpat@smartt.com                              08-Oct-99 22:51:01
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 21:25:14
Subj: Re: startup.cmd

From: gdfitzpat@smartt.com (Doug Fitzpatrick)

In message <WiQtt4WDEbXf-pn2-yWDJR2TuTxkd@vcn4.pm3-1.chey.wy.vcn.com>
- piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.) writes:
:>:> Type EXIT at the end of the file.


This worked thanks.

:>Klaatu barada nikto

Help me out here. What is the meaning of this? Klaatu was a rock band
of the 
late 70's/ early 80's. I think I have a couple of their cassettes.

Regards,
Doug

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From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk                           08-Oct-99 23:10:14
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 21:25:14
Subj: NT with Warp 4 - Progress

From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston)

First of all, many thanks to all those who gave help here and in email.

This evening I used FDISK to create a second primary partition on my
HD and set it startable. I then tried to install NT. No problem at
all with seeing drives and partitions and so on, but at the point where
it is supposed to reboot with a basic GUI for the Setup Wizard the 
machine hangs with just a flashing cursor.

Rebooted OS/2 from floppy, set Boot Manager startable and all is
hunky dory again.

I guess my problem is an NT one so I'll ask in that area. If anyone has
any bright ideas, do let me know. Hardware is BM (7MB) + Primary C: 
(1GB) HPFS + Logical D: (2GB HPFS) + Freespace (5GB) on SCSI device 0. 

Once more, many thanks for your help.

Ian

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     08-Oct-99 22:24:22
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 21:25:14
Subj: Re: warp4 installation advice

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Fri, 08 Oct 1999 07:34:10 -0400, mark davidson wrote:

->i'm trying to install warp4 but am getting an 'os/2 can't operate your
->hard drive' message.  i've tried both a known good ibm1s506.add
->(currently controls my maintenance partition) and the latest
->danis506.add but without luck.  that leads me to believe that there
->are other files on the install disk that need to be updated as well. 
->
->i have 3 hard drives;
->
->#1 - 18 gb ibm
->#2 - 3.2 gb wd  <- target drive (logical partition)
->#3 - 3.2 gb wd
->
->as i'm not trying to install on a 'large' hdd, i presume that the
->install process is having difficulty with hdd #1 which is sliced into
->4 partitions (~6/2/2/8).

The message also complains about "or floppy disk" so you may need to check
that too. Are the drives all IDE? /V is a useful switch to IBM1S506 and
IBM1FLPY!


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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